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10 tips for Newbie Growers

Justa6655321

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10 tips for Newbie Growers

I just wanted to give some pointers that I've learned (and use) from my trials and tribulations in mushrooms cultivation. There is literally thousands and thousands of written pages on this subject, do a net search, check the Grow/Find section here on the Shroomery, go to your library. The information is there, you just have to look for it. I also highly recommend buying Paul Stamets´ book "The Mushroom Cultivator", it has everything (and more) that you'll need to make your growing successful. I recommend however trying to grow using the PF TEK first and then go back and read the book to understand it, if you read the book first you'll be more apt to "experiment" on your first try, which can lead to a bad growing experience. For your first time, stick to the TEK and follow it letter by letter, then do some research and learn what's going on...

1. RTFM - Read The Fucking Manual - AKA
FOLLOW YOUR TEK. 90% of newbie growers have problems because they don't follow the TEK EXACTLY, and improvise. If you are looking for a positive (and rewarding) growing experience, don't think, just follow directions. The PF TEK (Psilocybe Fanaticus -http://www.fanaticus.com) is the preferred TEK for first time growers. If you FOLLOW THE TEK, you are almost guaranteed results.
FOLLOWING THE TEK IS THE MOST IMPORTANT FACTOR IN YOUR SUCCESS, THIS CANNOT BE STRESSED ENOUGH !

2. STERILITY = GODLY. Sterilization and cleanliness are important factors in growing. Your environment should be as clean and sterile as possible. When sterilizing your substrate in a Pressure Cooker or by boiling, make sure that you sterilize for at least 45 minutes @ 15psi (if pressure cooking) or an hour (if boiling). Some Pressure Cookers don't reach 15psi (my PCooker is rated at 12PSI), so you need to adjust your sterlization time accordingly, the formula is a proportional (example if you have a PCooker rated at 30PSI, you would only need to sterilize for 22.5 minutes, or if you have a 7.5PSI PCooker you would need to sterilize for 90 minutes etc...). The cleaner you and your surroundings, the better chance you have. When working with equipment for cultivation or during any phase of preparation I like to wear a face mask to prevent breathing on things.

3. Rye Grain. If you are using Rye Grain, make sure to soak your Rye Grain for 12-24 hours at room temperature before sterilization. Lots of nasty endospores, bacteria, virii, competing fungii and a host of other Bad Stuff(tm) are just waiting to destroy your wonderful mushrooms. Allowing the rye to soak at room temperature allows all of the endospores and other organisms to germinate and become suceptible to sterilization. If you use rye and are having problems with contaminiation, try soaking your rye.

4. Water Content of substrate/casing. This is a tricky subject, but the general rule of thumb is better too dry than too wet (of course "just right" is our goal). It depends on which substrate you are using (Birdseed, Rye, BRF (brown rice flour) etc.) but in general you want your substrate MOIST. Moist, not wet. To get an idea of what moist is, take a cup of Vermiculite emtpy it into a bowl and start adding water a little at a time and mix it up. When you think it's moist grab a handful and squeeze it. If water pours out of your hands, it's too wet. If a drop or two of water drips out, it's pretty close, make a mental note of the consistency and feel of the verm, this is most useful for casing.

5. Temperature. A lot of times I hear newbies say things like "I made some jars a week ago and nothing is happening". What they usually fail to mention is that they are heating their jars at 100 degrees (f) or at 60 degrees (f). The optimal temperature for Mycelial Growth (for p. cubensis) is 86 degrees (f), anything more or less will slow down mycelial growth (and possible kill if you overheat).

6. PATIENCE - Patience is the biggest trait that most people lack, I lack it as well, however growing mushrooms takes TIME. Ideally a first time grower could in theory see their first flush of mushrooms in 3 weeks, realisticly expect 5-6 weeks.

7. Spore suppliers. --- Search the web and look at some other forums...

8. Casing. So you've followed the PF TEK exactly and gotten some wonderful mushrooms and you want to get bigger yields, casing may be the answer. Simply put, casing is covering your Colonized Substrate with soil/peat moss/vermiculite. If you are going to case, there are plenty of good TEKs available on The Shroomery, check the Grow/Find section or do a search on the boards for more information. I like to sterilize my casing to minimize contamination, but many feel it is unnecessary, I like to err on the side of caution tho. To sterilize my casing it prepare it with just a LITTLE extra water, place it in a microwave safe container and nuke it for 10 minutes, let the casing material cool and use it as described in the TEK that you are following.


9. If in doubt, ASK. You have a virtual expert community at your disposal, if you are unsure about any part of the process, don't do what you "think should work", ask someone. Improvisation is a good way to lose a batch of mushrooms (trust me on this one), stick to the TEK (and make sure you understand the whole process) before attempting.


10. If all else fails. If you just don't have a White Thumb (tm) and are plagued by contamination, you can order pre-sterilized substrate filled jars from several vendors. The price is steep, but if you can't grow and have some extra cash, I'd recommend buying a jar or two and ordering a syringe. If you buy two jars and one syringe, I'd recommend using more spore solution (4ccs/jar) and saving 2ccs for later use, this won't guarantee success, but you'll tip the scales in your favor. This is a last resort. If you follow the directions in your TEK, with a little luck you'll be greeted by several flushes of happy mushrooms!

Good Luck!

 

79towncar

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Only thing I would like to add is #5.. 86 degrees is in my opinion too high for incubating jars... If the temperature outside the jar is 86 degrees then the inside of the jar is probabily 89 degrees which is much too high.. In my opinion jars, bags and other colonizing grains/substrates should be left to colonize at room temperature.. Anything from 74-80 degrees... Anything over 80 degrees in my opinion is excessive.. My good friend who grew mushrooms had very rapid colonization at her jars were always left at room temperature to colonize...
 

devilgoob

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hello jUSTAA. I went with rule 10 right away and then later cased them outside in basically a swap.....ran away with many many mushrooms lol.

I wont mention here where to get spores....but I trade him a silver coin for some.....ha ha! If you can find a website with a dude requesting coins for spores...that site is legit!
 
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