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Old 01-08-2020, 07:57 PM #1
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ReikoX's Workshop Rebuild 2020

Part I - The Layout

So I've been wanting to upgrade my grow room for over a year now. My original plan was to redo the room after I got my yearly bonus. Unfortunately life got in the way, funds ran out, and I just kept growing.

Let's start with what my workshop looks like currently. This is a top down view. The top and right side walls are exterior walls, 3' underground. The other two walls are adjacent to living spaces in the 1/2 basement.

There are a couple of things that I don't like about this room. First are the interior walls of the room itself. The walls themselves are framed, but instead of having sheetrock on them, they have paneling. I've hated this damn paneling since I moved in. Another issue I have is the door frame is about three inches too tall. This leaves a huge gap under the door.


Workshop - current configuration

I have been trying to figure out the layout for quite some time now. I've started a discussion with @Mr.Sparkle about the layout of the room. The room is essentially 10' x 10'. My original idea was to split the room up with two 5' x 5' rooms. But I didn't want to get rid of my workbench or cab. I've grown attached to the no-till cab and the workbench is awesome for pressing rosin etc. The problem with this layout is there is not only 1' 10" between the workbench and the wall, but I could fit my other cab in the "veg" side. This layout also required the use of pocket doors because there is no way to open the doors with only 22" of clearance.


Workshop - version 1.3

The next thing I tried was cutting the workbench in half and turning it 90 degrees. I didn't like the idea of cutting the workbench, plus it left a lot of unusable space in the grow room. It did solve the issue of having to use the pocket doors though.


Workshop - version 1.4

After some thought, I decided maybe it would be better to run a 4' x 5' room instead of a 5' x 5' room.. It would give me more room to keep the workbench and still be plenty of room to grow. Now we are getting somewhere.


Workshop - version 1.5

I figured a 4' x 4' grow area would be easier to light, so I played with having two 4' x 4' areas and a small drying area. I didn't really have enough room for the drying closet, it was only about 14" wide, not very useful.


Workshop - version 1.6
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Old 01-08-2020, 07:59 PM #2
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That's when @Mr.Sparkle suggested doing a 60/40 split of the area. This gives me a little bit more room in the veg area, I can put up cabinets or tents for drying and use this area for autos as well. Once I saw the sketch, I was sold.


Workshop - version 1.7

A while later, while smoking a doobie in the workshop, I was trying to visualize the space. I grabbed my tape measure and had a wonderful discovery. My room is actually closer to 10' x 11.5'. This gives me a whole lot more room than I thought. In fact, I can turn that workbench around without having to cut it. Finally, I decided I wanted to run a bigger flower side than the veg side. After a few more iterations, I settled on this design.


Workshop - version 2.4
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Nice to see the design evolution. Looking forward to seeing it come together.
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Very cool!
Is this a long-term project? section by section? or all at once?
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Nice! I look forward to seeing what you're able to do with the space
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Is this a long-term project? section by section? or all at once?
The plan is to be growing again by April. Basically, I have this long until my next harvest.


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Personal opinion, but I've always felt it was a huge pain in the ass to only be able to reach one side of the plants. I want to be able to get to opposite sides or make the plant easily movable. Makes it way easier to defol, water, inspect, etc. But with living soil, you need to have a bed or a good sized pot. I didn't want beds in my big room, so I went with 25 gallon smart pots and built rolling bases for them.

How are you going to grow in your new flower room?
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Personal opinion, but I've always felt it was a huge pain in the ass to only be able to reach one side of the plants. I want to be able to get to opposite sides or make the plant easily movable. Makes it way easier to defol, water, inspect, etc. But with living soil, you need to have a bed or a good sized pot. I didn't want beds in my big room, so I went with 25 gallon smart pots and built rolling bases for them.

How are you going to grow in your new flower room?
I'm thinking along the same lines as you. The plan is to make three 35-gallon beds on a rolling base. That way they will they still fit through the door, and are kept off the cold floor.
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Part II - Flowering

Now that I have the layout pretty much worked out, I turned my attention to the flowering room. This past year, I have experimented with a couple of different methods of growing, but still prefer the no-till bed. I really enjoy the process of feeding my plants by hand, it allows me to spend some time observing the plant for issues. Spending time with my plants is very therapeutic for me. Back when I was thinking of doing a 4' x 4' room, I knew I wanted to do a living soil, but I was torn between doing four 25-gallon pots or one 100-gallon pot.


Workshop - version 1.7.1 - four 25-gallon pots


Workshop - version 1.7.2 - one 100-gallon pots

Once I settled on the 4' x 6' room, I realized this is basically three 2' x 4' areas combined, This is roughly the same size as my no-till cabinet, so I decided on three no-till beds on castors. This way, I can easily move the beds for maintenance and cleanup. This setup would also allow me to run perpetually if I wanted to, but I have preferred to run full cycles in the past. The plan for the bed is to have a base made of wood and covered in pond liner. This will then have a custom made 30-gallon fabric bed that fits inside the base, just like I made for my previous cab. The base will allow the bed to be moved as well as catching any runoff that may occur.


Workshop - version 2.10

With the soil beds all figured out, I turned my attention to the lighting. I was debating building a ChilLED light kit or getting a Fluence SPYDRx. The issue is, these are both designed for a square area like a 5' x 5'. So, I started taking inventory of what I currently have. I already have two identical lights for my workbench, and the parts to build a third. The only thing I'm missing is an extra HLG-240H-24B driver. I decided that, since I wouldn't have to pay for a whole new light rig, I would experiment with some supplemental lighting. I decided to run two Emerson boards, and two Exotic Spectrum boards from Rapid LED.


Workshop - version 2.10-flowering

The following illustration shows the light and the different spectrum I have available. The layout is such that each bed will have a ladder style light over it and the supplemental spectrum boards on the side. Starting with the rack, each rack has six 2700K SolStrips (yellow) for flowering and three 5000K Solstips (blue) for veg running at at 40W each. The supplemental spectrum boards each run about 30W and both have two channels that can be independently controlled with a PWM controller. The Emerson board (red) has a combination of Photo Red (650-670nm) and Far Red (720-740). The Exotic Specturm board (purple) has a combination of UVA (390-400nm) and Infrared (840-870nm). With these, and my Bluefish LED controller, I will be able to dim each channel of lights independently. This will allow me to do things such as adding far red before lights on and lights off, simulating sunrise/sunset, and changing spectrum and intensity for flowering and veg. Each of these channels (represented by a different color) will also be able to be turned on and off independently using a Sonoff wireless timer.


Workshop - version 2.10-flowering lights

Exhaust is still a work in progress, but the plan is for a ACInfinity Cloudline T8 with carbon filter and a couple oscillating fans for circulation. This will be covered in more detail later along with electrical.
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Part II - Flowering

Now that I have the layout pretty much worked out, I turned my attention to the flowering room. This past year, I have experimented with a couple of different methods of growing, but still prefer the no-till bed. I really enjoy the process of feeding my plants by hand, it allows me to spend some time observing the plant for issues. Spending time with my plants is very therapeutic for me. Back when I was thinking of doing a 4' x 4' room, I knew I wanted to do a living soil, but I was torn between doing four 25-gallon pots or one 100-gallon pot.

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Workshop - version 1.7.1 - four 25-gallon pots

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Workshop - version 1.7.2 - one 100-gallon pots

Once I settled on the 4' x 6' room, I realized this is basically three 2' x 4' areas combined, This is roughly the same size as my no-till cabinet, so I decided on three no-till beds on castors. This way, I can easily move the beds for maintenance and cleanup. This setup would also allow me to run perpetually if I wanted to, but I have preferred to run full cycles in the past. The plan for the bed is to have a base made of wood and covered in pond liner. This will then have a custom made 30-gallon fabric bed that fits inside the base, just like I made for my previous cab. The base will allow the bed to be moved as well as catching any runoff that may occur.

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Workshop - version 2.10

With the soil beds all figured out, I turned my attention to the lighting. I was debating building a ChilLED light kit or getting a Fluence SPYDRx. The issue is, these are both designed for a square area like a 5' x 5'. So, I started taking inventory of what I currently have. I already have two identical lights for my workbench, and the parts to build a third. The only thing I'm missing is an extra HLG-240H-24B driver. I decided that, since I wouldn't have to pay for a whole new light rig, I would experiment with some supplemental lighting. I decided to run two Emerson boards, and two Exotic Spectrum boards from Rapid LED.

View Image
Workshop - version 2.10-flowering

The following illustration shows the light and the different spectrum I have available. The layout is such that each bed will have a ladder style light over it and the supplemental spectrum boards on the side. Starting with the rack, each rack has six 2700K SolStrips (yellow) for flowering and three 5000K Solstips (blue) for veg running at at 40W each. The supplemental spectrum boards each run about 30W and both have two channels that can be independently controlled with a PWM controller. The Emerson board (red) has a combination of Photo Red (650-670nm) and Far Red (720-740). The Exotic Specturm board (purple) has a combination of UVA (390-400nm) and Infrared (840-870nm). With these, and my Bluefish LED controller, I will be able to dim each channel of lights independently. This will allow me to do things such as adding far red before lights on and lights off, simulating sunrise/sunset, and changing spectrum and intensity for flowering and veg. Each of these channels (represented by a different color) will also be able to be turned on and off independently using a Sonoff wireless timer.

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Workshop - version 2.10-flowering lights

Exhaust is still a work in progress, but the plan is for a ACInfinity Cloudline T8 with carbon filter and a couple oscillating fans for circulation. This will be covered in more detail later along with electrical.
Those ac infinity fans are awesome, incredibly quiet. I love mine. The controllers are really nice to.
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