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Old 08-13-2019, 01:32 PM #1
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GMT goes LED. TSL2000 Mars Hydro

Well after a hot summer of HPS misery, I was fortunate enough to be granted a free mars hydro TSL 2000 LED grow light.
I had the choice of the TSL or the SP250 (which the manufactures label as their best indoor grow light). I watched the YouTube videos, and saw the SP had the mean well driver that everyone says is a must, and I saw all the fins for cooling, and it looked like a beautiful light that only an idiot would choose against. Then I chose the TSL 2000.
There are reasons, if not excuses for this madness. You see, the SP only has one driver. This means the heat is concentrated, whereas the TSL has 2. Which I'm hoping means only 60% of the heat from each. Additionally, I didn't see any mention of the SP being dimmable. That's important, esp in the extreme heat. And one big factor, is the TSL is an extra 50w of power, (when turned all the way up to 11, (spinal tap ref, the dial is actually in percentage.))
So hopefully you will understand why I did not choose their "best indoor grow light" when offered.

So, choice explained, a quick thankyou you the 4 groups of people who made this possible for me. Mars Hydro, icmag, unclefishstick and the people who complained about unclefishstick winning everything; who guilted him into offering up his prize to another entrant. Oh don't feel bad for him though, mars offered him the big brother light, so his generosity is being rewarded.

If you look at the YouTube videos, they show lights coming with extra freebies: soil pH spikes and and hydrometer. They weren't in my box, so I don't know if they are standard kit or if that's been stopped now. I'm certainly not complaining, I just don't know what to tell you to expect in the box.

I wish the packaging was a little more discrete, it says what's inside the box on the outside of the box. I'm glad my neighbours didn't receive the package. But at least it doesn't say hydroponics or grow light just light and model number. But Mars, couldn't you just lie and say aquarium hood or something, and if anyone complains, give it the old "sorry mistake in translation".

Not sure the currier you're using takes great care with their parcels, there were a number of significant dents in the reflector. But I bent them back out, which was easy to do, and its looking perfect. I'm looking for a screwdriver to turn the lights to 50% for first firing up. I'm always nervous with new stuff, don't like to stress test till safe test has been passed.

Anyway, I want to go and play, so back soon.

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Nice one GMT,,
with these roasting summers becoming the norm it’s a good path to take,,
Our moby air con is just about holding lower temps but may need to add a humidifier next
time,,,
How much power does your new lamp put out in total ?
Best of luck mate,,,s2
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Its basically a 300w led to replace a 400w HPS. If you go by folk law, that should double yields for me, but I just want a straight 1:1 replacement with less heat, or at least more control over the heat. And how do you complain when its free
If it increases yields, great, but I suspect there will be a learning curve to get the best from it.
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Its basically a 300w led to replace a 400w HPS. If you go by folk law, that should double yields for me, but I just want a straight 1:1 replacement with less heat, or at least more control over the heat. And how do you complain when its free
If it increases yields, great, but I suspect there will be a learning curve to get the best from it.
Exactly what I was looking for,,,
I started a thread a few weeks back asking for a definitive answer to ,,
can any plug and play LED or CM or quantum boards match the power of a 600 w sodium ( I use four in room 1 and three in room 2)
After talking to many hydro shops and answers to the thread,
I was told whatever I run? 600w is 600w and the heat will be the same,,,maybe a tad lower,,,
I look forward to your findings,
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Well after a hot summer of HPS misery, I was fortunate enough to be granted a free mars hydro TSL 2000 LED grow light.
I had the choice of the TSL or the SP250 (which the manufactures label as their best indoor grow light). I watched the YouTube videos, and saw the SP had the mean well driver that everyone says is a must, and I saw all the fins for cooling, and it looked like a beautiful light that only an idiot would choose against. Then I chose the TSL 2000.
There are reasons, if not excuses for this madness. You see, the SP only has one driver. This means the heat is concentrated, whereas the TSL has 2. Which I'm hoping means only 60% of the heat from each. Additionally, I didn't see any mention of the SP being dimmable. That's important, esp in the extreme heat. And one big factor, is the TSL is an extra 50w of power, (when turned all the way up to 11, (spinal tap ref, the dial is actually in percentage.))
So hopefully you will understand why I did not choose their "best indoor grow light" when offered.

So, choice explained, a quick thankyou you the 4 groups of people who made this possible for me. Mars Hydro, icmag, unclefishstick and the people who complained about unclefishstick winning everything; who guilted him into offering up his prize to another entrant. Oh don't feel bad for him though, mars offered him the big brother light, so his generosity is being rewarded.

If you look at the YouTube videos, they show lights coming with extra freebies: soil pH spikes and and hydrometer. They weren't in my box, so I don't know if they are standard kit or if that's been stopped now. I'm certainly not complaining, I just don't know what to tell you to expect in the box.

I wish the packaging was a little more discrete, it says what's inside the box on the outside of the box. I'm glad my neighbours didn't receive the package. But at least it doesn't say hydroponics or grow light just light and model number. But Mars, couldn't you just lie and say aquarium hood or something, and if anyone complains, give it the old "sorry mistake in translation".

Not sure the currier you're using takes great care with their parcels, there were a number of significant dents in the reflector. But I bent them back out, which was easy to do, and its looking perfect. I'm looking for a screwdriver to turn the lights to 50% for first firing up. I'm always nervous with new stuff, don't like to stress test till safe test has been passed.

Anyway, I want to go and play, so back soon.

Ya i dont think the best lights mars has is the sp models. I wood of chose tsw2000 over sp250. Back when i did own my ts1000 i like it but wished it was bigger in size and in watts. Also my ts1000 came to me too looking like hulk hogan gave it a leg drop b4 it arrived to me. Very dented and bent up. It took me a good 30mins of time to bend it back to how it shud of looked. Also my light had no labeling on the heat sheild that was bent. Others ive seen online says mars hydro on the diode side of light. Mine didnt have it like it was sum generic light knock off of a generic light?
I contacted mars to tell them my light was bent to all hell thinking theyd give me another light to replace dented one or thinkn theyd refund me at least half of cost of light being it came damaged. A week later i got email saying they wood do better in future on shipping??
Really? But what they did offer me cause it was dented was a whoping 5 percent discount code if id want another light? Lol.
From seeing how they didnt care bout my situation, i told myself then , that id never spend another dime with mars. So that why i at least tried to win the contest cause the light was free. But going by the rules of contest i posted everyday thinking i had a good chance.. But once they annouced the winner of light was same one who won tent, that told me it was a favortism packed contest. Im glad u won the light. Id of been more glad if it was me .lol. But next time il no not to waste my time in mars contests cause they arnt fair. Im glad u won it and not the same as one who won tent.
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Whoosh like it sent vent to you on purpose? lite up and chill before you spill. As for the op your logic and understanding of the product has been misslead. The sp250 is adjustable. And as for two ballast what's the point half of a light foot print is? You guessed it half of what you had planned for. Less is never more.

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