Aspirin for plants!

Today I read an article about aspirin and plants & it was interesting enough that I thought I would share it with ya'll.

Essentially, the article said that when plants are stressed, they produce acetylsalicylic acid (aspirin) naturally as a defense mechanism. If that's the case, it seems to me that it would made sense to experiment with the use of aspirin as a way to strengthen a plants immune system.

The directions in the article were to dissolve one tablet (350 mg) of aspirin in a very small amount of apple cider vinegar... then add the concoction to a gallon of water. Spray it on the plants during dark hours or early in the morning, with applications being approx. once every 3-4 weeks.

I have never seen anyone do this, but maybe someone here will want to try it out! Personally, I would think using plain RO'd water and no vinegar at all would be a better route to take. This might be a great way to treat plants that are mildly sick or recovering from a nasty bug infestation.

Just a few thoughts... if anyone tries this out please come back to the thread and write about your experience.

High Seas (of green!)
Cap'n Hook

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i've read that you can use aspirin as a rooting hormone for cuttings....something about the willowbark(or something) that is used to make aspirin, sorry for being off-subject

interesting idea

Everyday I learn something new here at IC Mag, that opens my mind alittle more. I love it!

There used to be an aspirin tonic for our girls in one of Ed's or Jorge's books for lowering PH also. Anyone remember? Oh well, it's not very popular. My books are at the shop with all my seeds and stuff. Next chance I'll find it..........on the aspirin subject.

Peace brothers and sisters!

Salicylic acid is the active ingredient in aspirin. Acetic acid is vinegar. I think that RO water wouldn't produce acetosalicylic acid. But I could understand your fear of vinegar Me, I'd stay away from the whole damn mess lol....

I agree... never said that I was going to try it lol... just thought it was something interesting to post. I should think that if it was a "miracle fix all" it would be something that everyone has heard about/is talking about.

Something for discussion at least.
Cap'n

this is very inresting but i would never recomennd spraying your plants at dark that will contribute to higher RH levels which cause problems if its in flowering

can cause other problems in veg also but the major damage would be caused in flowering when buds are growing

i wish i could try that......

dont do it I gave a plant and asprin 300mg ..white lables white skunk..over the next 3 days it witherd and died

What dosage did u use?

I have an old ed rosenthal book that says to use aspirin to cause sex reversal for breeding all female seeds. So I wouldn't do it unless you were experimanting to produce female pollen. Organic growers have been using willow rood bark as a rooting hormone for quite some time. Salicylates come from the latin word salix meaning aspirin. The greeks including aristotle used extract of willow and poplar bark in the treatment of pain gout and other illness. In the 1800s the active ingredient of these preparations was isolated as salycilic acid. In the 1890s bayer (also made zyclon b nerve gas for the nazis invented heroin and owns gw pharm producer of thc/cbd inhaler) close to 1900 bayer toyed with the salycilic acid molecule and invented acetylsalicylic acid which is aspirin a name derived from acetyl and spiralic acid (the old name for salicylic acid)

A thing you might want to try is to take willow branches and cut them up. Put them in water overnight and use the water for your seedlings and clones (although it wouldn't hurt big plants either). Willow contains a LOT of natural rooting hormones, which is why you can stick a willow branch in wet ground and it grows.

Not gimmicks..

Not gimmicks..

Researchers find plant immune system's 'take two aspirin' gene, offering hope for disease control without agricultural pesticides

ITHACA, N.Y. -- Scientists have found the gene that sends a signal through plant immune systems, saying, in effect: "Take two aspirin and call out the troops -- we're under attack !"

Discovery of the salicylic acid-binding protein 2 (SABP2) gene, by scientists at Boyce Thompson Institute for Plant Research (BTI) at Cornell University, is being called an important step toward new strategies to boost plants' natural defenses against disease and for reducing the need for agricultural pesticides.

Salicylic acid, the chemical compound found naturally in most plants (as well as in the most-used medication, aspirin), is a plant hormone produced at elevated levels in response to attack by microbial pathogens. According to a report on the Web today in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS Early Edition, week of Dec. 7, 2003) by BTI's Dhirendra Kumar and Daniel F. Klessig, the aspirin-like hormone is perceived by the SABP2 protein and a message is transmitted, via a lipid-based signal, to activate the plant's defense arsenal.

Says Klessig, "Now that we know a key signaling protein in plant immune systems, we can work on ways to enhance the signal and help plants fight disease without using potentially harmful pesticides."

The PNAS authors say SABP2 plays an important role in restricting infections by inducing host cells at the site of infection to undergo programmed cell death and sacrifice themselves for the benefit of the rest of the plant.

SABP2 also plays a critical role in activating the innate immune system in other parts of the plant to guard against further attack or spread by the same pathogen -- and even against unrelated pathogens. (Innate immune systems, which mount an immediate defense against infections, are found in all plants and animals. But only vertebrates, including humans and other mammals, have additional levels of defense -- the antibody-producing B cell and T cell-mediated acquired immunity for a delayed response that can take weeks to develop.) The Klessig laboratory discovered the presence of the SABP2 protein in plants in 1997. But it took five years to purify the protein, which occurs naturally in "excruciatingly small amounts," then to clone the gene that encodes it, and finally to assess the role of SABP2 in disease resistance. The PNAS article tells how the researchers proved that SABP2 is a key player in innate immunity by silencing the SABP2 gene and watching the plant immune system fail.

Although the salicylic acid-signaling experiments were done with tobacco plants -- because tobacco is a well-known plant species for studying disease resistance -- similar salicylic acid-binding proteins are found in other plant species, the BTI researchers say, making their results applicable to other crop plants.

And the finding might even help immunologists understand evolutionarily related signaling pathways in vertebrates, including humans, according to another BTI researcher and professor of plant pathology at Cornell, Gregory B. Martin. In a 2001 research article, he suggested that some molecular mechanisms involved in innate immunity in mammalian and insect systems "are remarkably similar to the molecular mechanisms underlying plant disease-resistance responses." Innate immunity in all kinds of living things, Martin and his co-authors added, "might be an evolutionarily ancient system of host defense."

When tobacco mosaic virus attacks a tobacco plant, the PNAS authors report, the immediate visible effect of SABP2 is to enable salicylic acid to induce the so-called hypersensitive resistance response. "We see programmed cell death at the site of the attack as plant cells sacrifice themselves for the overall survival of the plant," Klessig explains. "We believe programmed cell death helps restrict the infection to a small part of the plant. Something similar happens in animal systems, when virus-infected cells or cells with defective growth control that could become cancerous undergo programmed cell death," he says, noting that aspirin has been found to have a protective effect against cancer.

Even as the infection is being contained, the plant begins to signal other parts of itself that it is undergoing attack. "This leads to long-lasting, broad-spectrum systemic resistance to infections against the initial attacking pathogen and also against other viral, bacterial and fungal pathogens," Klessig says. "Systemic acquired resistance can last throughout most of the life of an annual plant."

Earlier this year the Klessig research group announced (in the May 16, 2003, issue of the journal Cell) their discovery of a plant gene for nitric oxide synthase, the enzyme that rapidly produces nitric oxide (NO) after infection. This is one of the earliest responses to pathogen attack.

"With nitric oxide synthase and now with SABP2, as well as other defense-signaling pathway components that have already or are sure to be discovered, we are beginning to see some effective and sustainable alternatives to pesticides," Klessig says, suggesting two possible strategies: Genetic manipulation could enhance a crop plant's ability to make more of a scarce defense-signaling compound or a limiting receptor needed to transmit this signaling compound. Alternatively, crops could be treated with a functional mimic of the signaling compound itself when plant disease is anticipated.

"Either way, we are utilizing and enhancing a plant's own natural defenses," Klessig says. "That should be a better way, both because it will be much more difficult for pathogenic organisms to develop resistance and because we can avoid contaminating the environment."

He adds that an attack by a plant pathogen "marks the start of a war. If the plant can recognize the pathogen and activate its defense arsenal in time, the plant usually wins. But if the pathogen circumvents detection or the defenses themselves, the plant is in trouble. The more we learn about plant immune systems, the better are the chances we can help important crop plants win their war -- without the collateral damage from chemical pesticides."

Klessig is president of BTI, an independent, not-for-profit organization located on the Cornell campus, and an adjunct professor of plant pathology; Kumar is a BTI research associate. The salicylic acid-binding protein research was supported by the National Science Foundation and by a plants and human health grant from the Triad Foundation.




Role of the "aspirin gene." Photos show the effect on plant immune systems of the salicylic acid binding protein 2 (SABP2). Tobacco mosaic virus attacking a tobacco plant with a healthy immune system, left, has little effect because SABP2 mounts an immediate response. But plants with disabled SABP2 genes, right, show signs of viral infections in the brown lesions.




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zamalito said:

I have an old ed rosenthal book that says to use aspirin to cause sex reversal for breeding all female seeds. acid)

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Could u say the name of the book m8? Or even quote?

Zam is right, if the aspirin doesnt kill the plant [ if you give it too much ] it will certainly make it go hermie on itself. I think the dosage to do it was a normal 300mg aspirin in a gallon of water.

Heres the article where Ed states aspirin can be used to hermie a plant.
http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/3381.html

thank you verite for that great post

Aspirin for plants is suposed to be one aspirin diluted in a gallon of water and foliar fed starting about 2 weeks from flowering...
Continuing til about 3 weeks into flowering....
Creates the immune response and helps to protect the plant from viruses, and mold....
Oldsterone is the member from OG who originally posted it...
It may be on this site somewhere but i am not sure....

I have used Asprin on plants with no ill effects at all.
I read in a 80's series HT mag from growers writing in saying they used it once as plants started to flower.
The growers writing in said it made the plants flower so much better and faster.
I tried it.
1 asprin i gallon of water.
it did not hurt my plants.
They did not go hermy.
And for sure it did not seem to harm my plants.
I did not spray it on.
just added it to one watering.
from what I understood it was only to be used once just as the plant began to flower.
Tandare

I know this thread is dead, but I wanted to bring it up as salicylic acid seems to be the #1 ingredient in AN's Scorpion Juice.

I am wondering if foliar spray or root feed would be a better way of introducing the aspirin to the plant?

its not dead now you revived it,,, lol intersting reading,,,,,,

bumpp