Bondage - a way to control your ladies

rüdiger · Jul 2, 2014

Hello my friends!

I want to show you a way to control stretch and height with your long flowering sativa ladies.

I call it Bondage.

-all we need is a wire(stainless or plastic covered)

The technique is easy, start wrapping the wire around the stem from below, so you get an upward spiral around it.

When done, one can now bend or twist or crop in all kinds of way with the plant staying like this afterwards.

example on Zamaldelica #5, she was too stretchy:

rüdiger · Jul 2, 2014

Here is PurplehazeThai #3, spiralled:

Group, enjoying the Bondage:

I hope this could be helpful!

:bongsmi:

rüdiger

PunkAssWeed · Jul 2, 2014

Nice!

Spiral comes to mind. Dont know how it is easy to make one but i think it would be quite beneficcial.

I will definetely try this one out soon as needed.

PAW

vladimiroslav · Jul 3, 2014

Wow. So you multi-break the stem... Does it make any difference with the yield afterwards? I might try this technique for my haze bonsais! Thanx for the tip!!

orfeas · Jul 3, 2014

Morgen, Ruedy!

Nice trick indeed!
However, there is such a difference with the size of my Jamal Hash and the number of side branches that doesn't allow for such manipulation and consequently I can only resort to Prokrustes technique :biggrin:

, which I have already started applying. But, like I said in my thread, the lady is going to give me a real pain in the neck behaving almost like Lernaean Hydra...
Now, I can only hope that stressing her so much won't result in hermaphroditism...

:tiphat:

Orfeas

Coconutz · Jul 3, 2014

People dont top sativas anymore?
Or is this 12/12 from seed?

rüdiger · Jul 3, 2014

vladimiroslav said:
Wow. So you multi-break the stem... Does it make any difference with the yield afterwards? I might try this technique for my haze bonsais! Thanx for the tip!!

The breaking or bending points will heal up while the wire holds the position.
It will give a better yield due to more even canopy and better use of effective enlightened space(shorter internodal spacing).
When it is used on a scrog type plant from start of vegetatve phase, there is no net necessary to train.

PunkAssWeed said:
Nice!

Spiral comes to mind. Dont know how it is easy to make one but i think it would be quite beneficcial.

I will definetely try this one out soon as needed.

PAW

Spiral is made by spinning the whole plant around a tube of your chosen spiral diameter.
Then remove the tube.

Coconutz said:
People dont top sativas anymore?
Or is this 12/12 from seed?

I dont top them in a sog setup. most dont do that in sog;-)
Its from clone(non mature) in my case.
But this technique can be also used on topped, bigger single plants, especially when you have height restrictions and dont want to use a net.

Stronger branches need a stronger wire then.

btw, killer sig.

orfeas said:
Morgen, Ruedy!

Nice trick indeed!
However, there is such a difference with the size of my Jamal Hash and the number of side branches that doesn't allow for such manipulation and consequently I can only resort to Prokrustes technique, which I have already started applying. But, like I said in my thread, the lady is going to give me a real pain in the neck behaving almost like Lernaean Hydra...
Now, I can only hope that stressing her so much won't result in hermaphroditism...

Orfeas

Ja, your right, there is nothing i could help you now anymore. :biggrin:

Watch your head when reaching Κηφισσός!
In case you want to bend..., flat steel n cableties :biggrin:

DoubleDDsNuggs · Jul 3, 2014

doesn't the wire grow into the plant as the stalk thickens? I tied down a plant once and the plant stalks eventually filled up the space from the wire that was holding it down and it looked as if the plant stalk was strangled.

rüdiger · Jul 3, 2014

DoubleDDsNuggs said:
doesn't the wire grow into the plant as the stalk thickens? I tied down a plant once and the plant stalks eventually filled up the space from the wire that was holding it down and it looked as if the plant stalk was strangled.

When you dont fasten the wire at the ends and lay a small straight over each node it usually wont grow into the stem, but this depends on
the growth that is to expect after bondaging. The wire could also be removed, when the bends and breaks are healed, just used to fixate position while training the plant.
Stainless does not harm when grown in, imho.

:tiphat:

Dropped Cat · Jul 4, 2014

Interesting, classic bonsai.

Here's what I did, un-topped Zamaldelica cutting, flowering days unknown:

rüdiger · Jul 4, 2014

intresting, classic lst

but also bondage :biggrin:

i appreciate recycling and your container size :tiphat:

rüdiger · Jul 10, 2014

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=6441672&postcount=248

show must go on :biggrin:

Sisu · Jul 10, 2014

I use LST often, sometimes in combo with topping, mostly not these days though.

Very clever rüdiger, thanks for sharing :tiphat:

DemonPigeon · Jul 10, 2014

I saw the title and was like, "what crackpot idea is this now?" then I saw the pictures and my jaw hit the floor. Really good work man

subbed for the ride

vladimiroslav · Jul 10, 2014

After "Little Africa", "The Dungeon" :biggrin:

Waldgeist · Aug 7, 2014

rüdiger said:
Hello my friends!

I want to show you a way to control stretch and height with your long flowering sativa ladies.

I call it Bondage.

-all we need is a wire(stainless or plastic covered)

The technique is easy, start wrapping the wire around the stem from below, so you get an upward spiral around it.

When done, one can now bend or twist or crop in all kinds of way with the plant staying like this afterwards.

example on Zamaldelica #5, she was too stretchy:

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