Pale green starts in CANNA coco?

FinestKindToo · May 3, 2016

Hey gang,

I transplanted my clones into coco 5 days ago. I am using fresh coco from the CANNA bricks, which I rehydrated with a 5 mL per gallon solution of the Coco A and B. Upon transplant, I watered to significant runoff with 5 mL per gallon of A and B, and 15 mL per gallon of the rhizotonic. I balanced the pH of each solution to 5.7.

Now, five days later, they are growing, but they are pale green in color. What gives, and what should I do about it? Thanks.

FK

dansbuds · May 3, 2016

sounds like they were water logged , let them dry out a bit before watering agian . but pics would really help us to help you .

Bush Dr · May 3, 2016

dansbuds said:
sounds like they were water logged , let them dry out a bit before watering agian . but pics would really help us to help you .

Agreed Dan, on both points

What size pots?

siegoldie · May 3, 2016

they sound like they need more feed

FinestKindToo · May 3, 2016

Thanks as always for the quick replies...

I have grown in peat for the last 10 years, and this is my first full grow with coco. They are in 5 gallon nominal (actually 3.5 gallon) pots, the same as I've always done in peat. I haven't watered/fed since transplant, and the media seems pretty "dry," compared to peat, anyway... the pots are still fairly heavy, though, so it hasn't dried out completely.

Anyway, here's some pics. Thanks for the help!

FinestKindToo · May 3, 2016

It didn't post one of my pics, so here it is

maimunji · May 3, 2016

I followed advice from grower in this site and after transplant I watering my plants in coco every day to run off im in hand water and I no longer believe coco can be overwatering. In my meter 5a 5b per gallon give me around 500 ppm including tap water 150 ppm and silica at 50 ppm so around 300-350 only a&b thats around 0.6 0.7 e.c from basic and 1.0 e.c total. I feed now at 700 ppm clonings just put roots and they look pale green and want more. I read how people feed canna coco at 200 ppm in veg and this is enough for them but I can't believe.

FinestKindToo · May 3, 2016

maimunji said:
I followed advice from grower in this site and after transplant I watering my plants in coco every day to run off im in hand water and I no longer believe coco can be overwatering. In my meter 5a 5b per gallon give me around 500 ppm including tap water 150 ppm and silica at 50 ppm so around 300-350 only a&b thats around 0.6 0.7 e.c from basic and 1.0 e.c total. I feed now at 700 ppm clonings just put roots and they look pale green and want more. I read how people feed canna coco at 200 ppm in veg and this is enough for them but I can't believe.

I thought I'd read in the coco sticky that it's good to let it dry out after transplant for root development. I think you may be right, though, I think they're hungry, certainly look it to me.

maimunji · May 3, 2016

How much plants there? With 3.5 g pots are you looking for trees? I like trees. How much is grow space? Coco isn't like peat don't need big pots from what I read.

noyd666 · May 3, 2016

mine are in canna coco n get fed 1.2 straight off. more feed. just water small amount in of higher ec, no need to flood , just get them going, will take off.

EastCoast710 · May 3, 2016

treat kinda like soil until the roots take hold is how i treat my coco clones.. with 0 issues now... first grow in coco was like that.. since then no problems..

doob · May 4, 2016

If they look fine other than colour, underfed or lights to penetrating for them, raise it

FinestKindToo · May 4, 2016

maimunji said:
How much plants there? With 3.5 g pots are you looking for trees? I like trees. How much is grow space? Coco isn't like peat don't need big pots from what I read.

Haha, no, not growing trees. Most of it is Indica, in fact (Aurora Indica from Nirvana), so they'll probably end up being 2 feet tall. I used the big pots because that's what I had.

It's not going to hurt any, at least, but I may waste a lot of nutrients. We'll see. Good to know you've read you can use smaller pots, thanks for that!

FK

FinestKindToo · May 4, 2016

noyd666 said:
mine are in canna coco n get fed 1.2 straight off. more feed. just water small amount in of higher ec, no need to flood , just get them going, will take off.

Forgot to check the EC, but I fed them yesterday with 10 mL/gallon A and B, 8 mL per gallon Rhizo and 1/2 tsp per gallon ProTekt silica (does anyone else use silica in their feed? I figured I'd give it a try since I had an old bottle lying around).

The EC out was around 1.4. I didn't forget to check that.

FK

FinestKindToo · May 4, 2016

EastCoast710 said:
treat kinda like soil until the roots take hold is how i treat my coco clones.. with 0 issues now... first grow in coco was like that.. since then no problems..

Yeah, that's what I thought. Now that they are properly fed, that's how I'm going to treat it. Although, my hydro guy (who has a lot of experience with coco) says he's never done it that way, and gets good results. Once I get it dialed in, I'll do a side by side to see the difference. Still trying to work out the kinks now, though, so not this grow.

FinestKindToo · May 4, 2016

doob said:
If they look fine other than colour, underfed or lights to penetrating for them, raise it

Shouldn't be lights, they were about 3' to 4' above them for the first 5 days. I agree, they look hungry, so I fed them with a good shot of A and B today, time will tell. Thanks!

FK

noyd666 · May 4, 2016

FinestKindToo said:
Forgot to check the EC, but I fed them yesterday with 10 mL/gallon A and B, 8 mL per gallon Rhizo and 1/2 tsp per gallon ProTekt silica (does anyone else use silica in their feed? I figured I'd give it a try since I had an old bottle lying around).

The EC out was around 1.4. I didn't forget to check that.

FK

maimunji · May 5, 2016

Yes I use silica full dose at every water. I start to see difference only when I supercrop. Stem repair faster can't see other difference. I can recommend you if is not too late remove them from this big pots and transplant them in 6 ltr. pots if you not looking for trees there is no need that big pots. Im in 7 ltr pots and two plant easily can cover 4x4.

FinestKindToo · May 6, 2016

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FinestKindToo · May 6, 2016

maimunji said:
Yes I use silica full dose at every water. I start to see difference only when I supercrop. Stem repair faster can't see other difference. I can recommend you if is not too late remove them from this big pots and transplant them in 6 ltr. pots if you not looking for trees there is no need that big pots. Im in 7 ltr pots and two plant easily can cover 4x4.

I'm just going to run it as is. Seems like a major hassle to go to smaller pots now. I used the next size down on my trial round (maybe 2.5 gallon), and the roots definitely filled them, no problem. Tight root balls on each plant, even using Cannazym as recommended. I'll give you first "told you so" if shit goes wrong, deal?

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