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Old 01-26-2019, 08:52 PM #1
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Exclamation True Terpenes VISCOSITY extract liquifier LAB TESTS: Mineral oil but no terps!!

Fellow concentrators: If you use True Terpenes beware!

I'm sharing these lab tests (costing me more than $600) to get the word out about the lies True Terpenes is telling regarding their extract liquifier product: Viscosity diluent

I choose to have Viscosity tested at two labs because I really disliked the product. It left a burning/irritating sensation in my throat and a bad taste in my mouth. I had enough Viscosity left to justify testing it to see if I wanted to keep using it (I don't!).

They claim that their dilutant is made from 100% terpenes, but it's NOT. According to lab results it's really "a blend of some very heavy, non-volatile, odorless material, along with some mineral oil". The lab ruled out squalene as an ingredient.

Sadly, it's apparent that True Terpenes is lying and ripping people off. The very people who are specifically looking for a terpene based dilutant. And on top of that, True Terpenes is charging an INSANE amount of money for what is very inexpensive mineral oil and some unknown non-terpene material.

So, if you don't want to vape mineral oil and some unknown, non-terpene material (possibly derived from petroleum oil), STAY AWAY from True Terpenes.

I decided to pay for two separate GC/MS analyses of True Terpenes Viscostiy extract liquifier (at two different labs) to make sure there really is mineral oil as an ingredient. I didn't believe the first lab because I didn't think True Terpenes would actually include mineral oil into a vape product used for medicine. However, after the second lab had the same results as the first lab there is no denying the sad fact True Terpenes is lying.

Lab test #1: I'm waiting on the final report from the first lab test of Viscosity. The lab found mineral oil and some very heavy, non-volatile, odorless material they suspect may be some type of petroleum derived synthetic isoparaffin solvents. Once I receive the final report I'll share it here.

Lab test #2: Below are the results from the second lab test of Viscosity. This was carried out at Essential Oil University by Dr. Robert Pappas, Ph.D. in Physical Chemistry. It's one of the best, if not the best labs for analyzing terpenes in the entire world. Dr. Pappas reported that squalene was not found in the sample.

If I can figure out how to upload a PDF I'll share the actual report.

Per Dr. Pappas:
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The sample did not show any signs of terpenes in the mixture. The sample is a blend of some very heavy, non-volatile, odorless material, along with some mineral oil.




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Old 01-26-2019, 09:04 PM #2
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Good job.
I have always been suspicious of their claims.
I heard there is a dilutent or "cut" for distillate called "thickner" or something along that line now too. Same consistency as disty with no smell or taste.
SMH.
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Related to this, distillate or vape cartridges are a hot item in the market now. The equipment and process to produce these is relatively expensive. Little information on their production is being shared from what I've gathered. What if any diluents are being used might be a "trade secret" or proprietary. With this market, I am not sure if revealing the ingredients is actually going to be required or regulated. Without knowing the components it is difficult to know how safe they may be.
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thanks! I read about thickener also. Interesting product idea. It's from a shop in LA I think. I'm curious what it is. I have a guess as to what's in there but I plan to pay for lab tests to see for sure. They don't offer an SDS or TDS: https://www.mrextractor.com/datasheets/the-thickener/


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Mild rubber smell in bottle that does not transfer when vaped
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Oh god its Drew!
Im really not surprised.
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Too funny. I'd like to get The Thickener and The Flavourless tested.
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lmao,True Terps,,, smh,
zero terps, that really is a joke.
is it not false marketing?

id like to test all these terps people are buying.
bet theres no terps in those either.

(For one, there is no terp called "Lemon Haze" or
whatever. )
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as far as i know there is No company breaking down
cannabis terps , especially into each specific
terp.
they are def extracting something,
but its nott what 90% of people think it is.
i'm calling bs on the whole industry.
prove me wrong?
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I don't get how these disposable pens became so popular, obviously from these tests you don't have any idea what you are inhaling. I get the convenience part, but the whole vape until the cartridge is empty and throw away the battery that will probably rust and leach into the ground seems like a lose lose to me, and it isn't just the cannabis industry that has the disposable pens. I bet half of them read labels on their food purchases and talk about saving the planet.
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great points everyone. I'm just so disgusted with True Terpenes and sad those tests came back the way they did. How can anyone trust anything True Terpenes claims now? I mean there terps are so crazy expensive, so I guess there's A LOT of profit margin on lies.
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