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Old 05-20-2013, 02:42 AM #41
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I usually go w/ 1tsp per gallon Durdy.
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The first neem meal I used was from DTE and I foolishly followed their directions which called for 2 cups to 1 c.f. of potting soil.

You talk about smelling bad! That could be a security concern because a busybody smelling this could assume that you're involved in any number of illegal activities since it's different than anything most people are familiar with. Bombs. Rotting bodies in the basement. Meth.

I found a better product and definitely found better information on how to use it.

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plants look and smell fine

fwiw pistils were not happy, not sweating it just reporting results to those who may be interested

I am going to try to find out the source of need meal later today if possible
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DTE Neem is bad quality? I never had other neems to compare. DTE Neem is the only neem I can find and I drive 30 to 40 miles out to purchase it.
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Neo! Get your butt to neemresource .com and get your hands in some organic neem seed meal! It's a world of difference....I don't know if I'd say DTE is 'bad' quality but ahimsa does put it to shame....
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NICE..They got cold pressed oil too! I'll put an order in for the oil, neemcake and the soap. The application rate change with these products? Interesting to see the differences with this stuff in relations to IPM strategy...
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any one have a IPM suggestion for thrips. It looks like there are some under the leaves as well as running around the soil.
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If you already have thrips spinosad works pretty good for them is what I hear from others who used it but it can also harm other soil organisms so go light on it when using directly on the soil and maybe try a topdress of neem/ crab meal

From the first page a good rundown from CC

Mix 4 oz. Spinosad to 1 gallon water. Add 1/4 Aloe vera and 2 tsp. of Pro-TeKt

Spray every 72 hours until you have completed 4 applications.

All Spinosad products come from one manufacturer - Eli Lilly. They have licensed Bonide to pack this under their name "Captain Jack's Deadbug Brew" which is around $20.00 for 16 oz, i.e. 4 applications.

The other licensee is Monterey Garden Products which they sell as 'Monterey Garden Products Spinosad Concentrate' and it's 32 oz. for $22.00 so it's 1/2 the price as the grow store product - as usual.

Monterey Gardens also has a ready-to-use Spinosad spray - worthless.

Because Spinosad is a bacteria culture and not a plant compound (Linalool, Camphor, etc.) it is not subject to breakdown from light and air and therefore remains on the plant's leaves and branches longer making it very effective by causing the insect's nervous system to go into hyperactivity preventing them from eating, reproducing, etc.

Works well......

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right, and it does seem like it, but if i can keep them at bay with botanicals i may go that route. they are in mid flower and last water on monday morning so nows the time.. going with neem aloe and oregano spray,may even toss in raw garlic for good measure. i am concerned mainly with the plants health and reaching maturity ASAP, not there stone
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