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top of the heap to third world status in one generation

Three Berries

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Gee Three Berries, having been given the inside scoop from the like of Glen Beck and
Whitney Web, that is the best you can manage.

Glen Beck describing Whitney Web's content as the
most significant thing he had been exposed to in 45 years.
As close to a Riefenstahl tribute as one is likely to find.
What's the problem?
 

Brother Nature

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Have you had an opportunity to view the content with
her and Glen Beck ?
It appears to me, that what we have with Ms Webb,
is a ringer.
I'm interested to hear you don't have a positive opinion of Whitney Webb. I believe it was you and I who shared a lot of her reporting on the Epstein issue? Can I ask what has changed? I haven't seen much from her since those stories, but the mention of Beck gets my ears ruffled as I was pretty surprised so see him and his ilk of 'alternative journalists' speak in (paid very well) support of Kim Dot Com over here when he was running his sham of a political party. The association has changed my view of Caitlin Johnstons pieces a lot, but I'm suprised and a bit bummed to hear Webb is associating with that consortium.
 
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Three Berries

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Politico says the Chicago mayor’s race highlights the importance of the “progressive agenda” for Chicago and the focus will be on crime. There are grumbles that incumbent mayor Lori Lightfoot isn’t “progressive” enough. But the urban progressive agenda under her – with its emphasis on “social justice,” managed outcomes, and performative politics – has hardened the city’s horrible outcomes for blacks with respect to crime and K-12 public education.

Black-on-black crime, a phrase at which progressives sharply bridle, is a violent scourge in “progressive” Chicago. Blacks are the primary victims of every type of violent crime here by a wide margin. Meanwhile, the city’s K-12 public schools fail black students horribly. One 1 in 10 rate proficient in reading, and just 1 in 20 for math.

The progressive ethos girds destructive social, political, and economic values such as the idea that police are inherently racist and brutal, and they criminals are actually victims. Or that achievement tests which reveal chronic academic failure of black and Latino students are racist, unfair and somehow emblematic of “whiteness.”

Modern-day urban progressivism in Chicago is a political fun-house mirror in which strident nonsense passes for exalted truth. To cast one of the most pivotal mayoral contests in recent history as a contest to see which candidate can be more progressive is to voice a death wish for the city.

 

dramamine

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I'm interested to hear you don't have a positive opinion of Whitney Webb. I believe it was you and I who shared a lot of her reporting on the Epstein issue? Can I ask what has changed? I haven't seen much from her since those stories, but the mention of Beck gets my ears ruffled as I was pretty surprised so see him and his ilk of 'alternative journalists' speak in (paid very well) support of Kim Dot Com over here when he was running his sham of a political party. The association has changed my view of Caitlin Johnstons pieces a lot, but I'm suprised and a bit bummed to hear Webb is associating with that consortium.
I think these journalists are breaking the algorithms of the news cycles that keep people in their closed loops of opinion. Greenwald does it too, of course, and is branded right wing. The message is all that matters. To appear on Glenn Beck or whoever is no better or worse than appearing on CNN or MSNBC or Fox or wherever. A journalist's loyalty is to the people and as such, finding ways to be heard by all sides is, I think, absolutely necessary. I don't buy this guilt by association stuff when the facts are presented honestly.
 

Gry

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I urge those with interest in Ms Webb to read of Reality Winner.
That is what our uncle does to those who speak with out permission.
The Webb/Beck content brought to mind the old radio dramas, more than anything else.
The woman may well be the product of amazing parents, but she is also the product of
the system we do live with. She glows more than Rudolph's nose.
As I watched the patter back and forth between her and mr Beck, I was left with an
impression that it was some the most unusual footage that I have ever seen.
 

Gry

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Was and still am disgusted when I see attempts to credit the origins of this to Hitler.
Classic misdirection of the sort that our society is excellent at.
Hitler was massively inspired and financed by people and events here in the United States.
Henry Ford was a notorious anti semite, who spent a fortune to distribute what is today
acknowledged to be one of the most successful cases of fraud. The Blood Libel claim
targeting Jewish people. Originally done for Russian Intel services between the turn of
the century and the first world war.
False though it was, that did not keep it from being used as a rationalization
for the treatment of the Jewish population in the second world war.
Remarkably similar to adrenochrome claims.
There is little that is new.
 

Gry

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Our system puts effort into representing Hitler as a source of evil. ignoring that he was encouraged financed and tutored by American wealth, as had been the political shitfuckary in both Spain and Italy.
Some of the same families which finance what we deal with here in United States today,
financed the events leading to the second world war.
They were able to use their wealth to avoid any reckoning, and they have continued
and increased their treacherous efforts. As was clearly demonstrated by our previous administration.
You ask did Hitler write it or not. If we use Donald Trump as a guide, perhaps not.
Trump published a book with content in it that sounds much like Hitler or Himmler.
Written by a well compensated ghostwriter.
History tells us Hitler wrote while he was incarcerated.
The same history omits that he was a successful informant - resulting in the deaths of many
decent Germans which are seldom mentioned.
What has significance to me, is the current preoccupation with material associated with atrocity.

I thought your application of heat tape to grow containers was rather nifty.
 

Gry

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Best I can do with Whitney Webb, is that I was left real uncomfortable with what I saw.
If someone who I thought well of were to say they wished to be more informed on
the agency, I would point them to what is below, and tell them I know of no one
I think better informed than these two men.
Should it matter, I think well of each of them.

Interviews with Jim DiEugenio and Dave Emory on “JFK Revisited”

1.) https://emory.kfjc.org/archive/ftr/1200_1299/f-1262.mp3
2.) https://emory.kfjc.org/archive/ftr/1200_1299/f-1263.mp3
3.) https://emory.kfjc.org/archive/ftr/1200_1299/f-1264.mp3
4.) https://emory.kfjc.org/archive/ftr/1200_1299/f-1265.mp3
5.) https://emory.kfjc.org/archive/ftr/1200_1299/f-1266.mp3
6.) https://emory.kfjc.org/archive/ftr/1200_1299/f-1267.mp3
7.) https://emory.kfjc.org/archive/ftr/1200_1299/f-1268.mp3
8.) https://emory.kfjc.org/archive/ftr/1200_1299/f-1269.mp3
9.) https://emory.kfjc.org/archive/ftr/1200_1299/f-1270.mp3
10.) https://emory.kfjc.org/archive/ftr/1200_1299/f-1271.mp3
 

Gry

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Scott Horton Anti war radio.

I am no libertarian, but I admire his perspective a great deal.
 

Gry

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cia contacts and superior education on the internet shouldn’t be taken seriously.
What I recall saying was that I grew up close to the agency.
I said the agency invites the most fascinating people there to speak. It is considered a great privilege to be invited to do so and seldom does anyone refuse.
I described myself as the most fortunate of people, being surrounded by amazing people
who provided me with similar opportunity.
Does that sound like the essence of what I did impart, hh ?

Some of the people mentioned frequently in this thread spoke at Langley.
 
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