Blah's First Ppk

Mr Blah · May 13, 2016

I hope Gardener60...I hope so to...
Got a lot riding on this 8k install. (3ton mini, lights, tents, 200amp serv,etc....)

I can stack the buckets ontop of each other with no problem and there is next to no wiggle room.
They say Letica corp on the bottom of the buckets.

I tried 1.5" pipe and the bit did enter the the other side of the pipe but didn't breach. 2" would be perfect and cheaper than all the fittings I just bought. No leaks huh....anyone have any leaks?

Do I leave the tapper on the PVC wall and shove the hose in?

Mr Blah · May 13, 2016

The first one X 12 with Tail pipes and screens.

Also have the feed manifold done and ready to put in tent.

Remember this is all for vegging. I am use to vegging under HPS 600's and am thinking of using T-5's x 4 for these.

The candidates for the first go around will be Blue Dream and Mediplant from the Dr Greenthumb. Both Sativa/Indica blends to give me the stretch I need and yield...I hope.

delta9nxs · May 14, 2016

Mr Blah said:
The first one X 12 with Tail pipes and screens.
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Also have the feed manifold done and ready to put in tent.

Remember this is all for vegging. I am use to vegging under HPS 600's and am thinking of using T-5's x 4 for these.

The candidates for the first go around will be Blue Dream and Mediplant from the Dr Greenthumb. Both Sativa/Indica blends to give me the stretch I need and yield...I hope.

the 1/2" barbs are good for using the drip rings from sunlight supply (blue ones) 9" or home made ones using the 1/2" vinyl grow shop hose.

how are you going to drain and return? it would be easier to go to the 2" pipe and the rubber garden hose for that. just drill 13/16" holes and shove the hose in.

the mediplant is an exceptional plant if you get the right pheno.

Mr Blah · May 17, 2016

I am very pleased to anounce that NOTHING is leaking.....Nothing!
I left the water in all 12 buckets, control bucket and hoses/whip overnight just to be sure.

I used a heat gun just to take the chill off the stiff hose. Little turn and they all were in a few minutes later.

I need to design a water ring that can be removed off the ball valve so I can hook it back up in the flower room.
Any ideas?

delta9nxs · May 17, 2016

so you got your buckets from us plastics! you ordered the regular lids which are fine and do nest with their buckets but are difficult to get on and off. if you go ahead and cut the lids where the little holes are it will be easier. as if you were opening a 5 gal paint bucket. it's even easier to use if you cut them in an inverted "v". next time you may want to consider their "reusable" lids, which go on and off with one hand. softer plastic without shipping locks that must be cut to open. i hope this makes sense without a picture.

here:

http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/item.aspx?itemid=31009&catid=686

these are the standard lids.

http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/item.aspx?itemid=31232&catid=686

and the reusable ones.

heat gun on the hose, huh? what are you, some kind of wise guy? trying to make us all look dumb?

Mr Blah · May 17, 2016

Thanks for the tip on the lids.....Too late though, got the others all here. Will get them for the downstairs change over if this all goes as predicted.
The only dumb one here is me for not doing this Ppk thing friggen yrs ago when I saw it, instead of doing UC. :moon:

You guys veg and flower in the same location?
What do you do about drip rings...removing and relocating...little hard with barb fittings.

I am thinking of just flooding the veg sites and when I move to flower room I can have a dedicated drip ring installed...then removed when harvest time comes about.

D9 do you think I need a ball valve at each bucket site in veg? You see my veg set up with a control bucket, 2" pipe with hoses coming off that.....Should flood equal with a 950magdrive?

Mr Blah · May 19, 2016

I sourced out some local MVP/Turface. 13.72....not bad considering I was going to buy some $45 bags.

TurboCharged · May 20, 2016

Good looking build you got going there. Looking forward to see how good you do bro!

Mr Blah · May 27, 2016

Building the feed lines from the manifold...had to think this one through as I will be taking the top bucket off to move into the flower room. Has to be very flexible but stable with the weight of the water in it when feeding.
Water has been in the bottom buckets for over a week....Still no leaks. :laughing:

Shoving those hoses in the bucket and pipe really works..hell of a lot better than the connections imo. :woohoo:

Oysters · May 29, 2016

Feed manifold: 4 or 5 small A frames straddling the return line at a convenient height to disconnect top pots as needed?

Mr Blah · May 30, 2016

I guess I am a little numb...I can't figure out this used DRT-1 I picked up.
Anyone else have one?
They brag on how easy it is to use.
Yes, I went to the manual and yes on Youtube.
I think I might have been sold a defective one.....Oh No I was duped on Craigs List.......

Mr Blah · May 30, 2016

OK I figured out that the cycled on time is broken.....Or I think it is.
I followed the directions to change it; push recycle/time on time button and adjusted up/down to 30 seconds just to try it out. It continues back on the original time set by the previous owner.
I can change the off time no prob.

Anyone know if this is salvageable?

Mr Blah · May 31, 2016

These are shots of the manifold, each with a ball valve and zip tied together with the adjacent feed hose for stability.

I tried a dry run as it sits and all worked ok. When 30sec came around the control bucket was being fed from the inlet pipe from buckets. I am worried that when I have Turface/perlite it will take longer to find its way back to the control bucket.

We will cross that bridge when we get there.
This is going to be fucken awesome! :laughing:

Mr Blah · Jun 2, 2016

OK it is time to buy nutes.
For veg and flower am I using the same stuff?
I know if I read one of those long threads it will say it but just seeing if someone will save my ass.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/20lb-Calciu...156547?hash=item4affadbec3:g:81sAAOSwfZhXNXiS

http://www.ebay.com/itm/271402923568?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

2.2g/pr gal of jack's
and
1.4g/pr gal of calcinit (calcium Nitrate)

About 600ppm's

delta9nxs · Jun 2, 2016

hey buddy! nice looking build!

these are from jrpeters direct:

http://www.jrpeters.com/products_/16491/17592-jack-s-professional/16387-5-12-26-hydroponic-.html

http://www.jrpeters.com/products_/16491/19322-jack-s/19718-15-0-0-calcium-
nitrate.html

although you can usually find the calcium nitrate locally cheaper and avoid shipping costs too.

i use the yara liva brand and get 50 lb bags for $19.

http://www.yara.us/agriculture/products/yaraliva/2469-yaraliva-calcinit-15-5-0-0/

delta9nxs · Jun 3, 2016

upon looking at your photos i don't see any drip rings so it looks like you are planning to use the "full flood" technique.

then you state that you are going to use a turface/perlite combination medium.

these two are incompatible because the perlite will float and will promptly separate from your turface.

using turface and perlite together is fine if you are going to use a pulsed irrigation with drip rings.

but you don't show any drip rings.

Mr Blah · Jun 3, 2016

delta9nxs said:
upon looking at your photos i don't see any drip rings so it looks like you are planning to use the "full flood" technique.

then you state that you are going to use a turface/perlite combination medium.

these two are incompatible because the perlite will float and will promptly separate from your turface.

using turface and perlite together is fine if you are going to use a pulsed irrigation with drip rings.

but you don't show any drip rings.

Still designing something that is like a horse shoe that I can just slide away and remove the whole top bucket to place in the flower room system.
Those blue fancy store bought ones work ok?

Also my water is well water and I do not use RO system on any of my 4 rooms downstairs and it is PH 5.8-6.0 depending on the time of yr. Also 225ppm's. Do you think I will have an issue using Jack's and calcinit?
I still can't believe that there is absolutely no leaks! :laughing:

Mr Blah · Jun 3, 2016

All right I looked into these
http://www.horticulturesource.com/p...uUi_PsOelyqAE6CI76fF0c-AWNefTHMB4hRoCzFDw_wcB
They look flexible enough to bend so I can slide the trunk through.
Or take the 1/2" feed line off.

delta9nxs · Jun 3, 2016

those are what we are using. the 9" ones should work right for you.

you probably will have issues with that water. i would automatically go to a ro filter.

Mr Blah · Jun 3, 2016

delta9nxs said:
those are what we are using. the 9" ones should work right for you.

you probably will have issues with that water. i would automatically go to a ro filter.

Which system should I stay clear of?
I will look today for one.

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