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Old 11-20-2013, 09:00 PM #51
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there are no dispensaries in australia, alot of commercial growers tho , to get good pot here you have to know someone , or grow it yourself
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Old 11-20-2013, 09:03 PM #52
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Was any of that commercial green marketed as organic? If dispensaries are falsely advertising their product as safe, this might have major implications for medical patients looking for the cleanest source possible.
"commercial green marketed as organic"
in australia your lucky to know what your getting, its tough in some areas. some areas you can find the sweetest sativas ever, its a hit or miss game here / anyways i think you misunderstood me.
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Old 11-20-2013, 09:07 PM #53
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Yeah I didn't realize your were in Australia.
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Old 11-20-2013, 09:13 PM #54
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So I spoke with my doctor, and he said that if you are loosing weight and not trying to, then something is wrong.

He told me to record every bit of cannabinoids I use - all the edibles, sublinguals, pills, tinctures, plus the amount of herb and extracts and then reduce my usage until I feel better.

Sounds like a plan.

My problems is I get hella crampy in my stomach, and have no appetite. When i do eat, I just eat a bite or two and then I am full. By the end of the night my lower stomach really hurts, and I sometimes throw up. A hot shower or lying down helps a lot.

When I think about it, esp after talking to the doctor, I think I am just using way too many canna-products.

I'm gonna stop all edibles and pills and such, and not use any extracts.
I am gonna stop the CBD supplements too.
Not sure why i even use so many, I mean I smoke a shit ton of weed.
These products are for people that don't smoke, not people like me - hourly smokers of Cookies and Kush
Think I end up just buying shit just to buy it, all the candies and cookies and chocolate bars look so good and the manufacturers make you think they are good for you.

I don't remember feeling bad when i was just smoking plain old weed.[/quote]


hahaha sorry to laugh man but this sounds exactly like me to the point its funny ive lost alot of weight , but as i said all this has changed since i only what ive grown now , seeing i know whats gone into the product, anyways can i ask what strains your smoking are they organic ? indoor outdoor ? . my condition is 95% better when i stick to 100% outdoor organic
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Old 11-20-2013, 09:53 PM #55
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Cannabidiol (CBD) is a cannabinoid too. I think you are little confused about how they work. They all work by stimulating the CB1 or CB2 repeptors in the brain and body. I actually use a daily CBD supplement (Cibdex) made by Hemp Inc (they are the largest producers or pure CBD in the world). I met them at the Green Festival last month and bought some of their products.
Funny, I don't feel confused... yet.

You only have so many CB1 and 2 receptors in the body. THC and CBD each have their own effects on those receptors, and only so much of each can be attached to each receptor. That's why you can reach a "ceiling" where you keep smoking but don't get more high. Anyway, when you introduce both CBD and THC, they compete with each other, and you have competitive inhibition.

Given anecdotal evidence of CBD keeping the high more mellow and longer lasting, and pure THC to be a sudden rush followed by a subsequent crash, I'm willing to speculate that CBD has a higher affinity for the CB1 and 2 receptors, keeping the THC in the blood longer before being metabolized. Haven't read the research to confirm that.


You're total cannabinoid consumption is much higher than mine. I bet that if you clean yourself out a bit, and only use the CBD when you feel nauseous, the nausea will subside. Definitely gotta lower the THC level though... ha ha... That's my problem, when I'm eating medibles and I'm high as a fucking kite 24/7. Then I go to smoke, and
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Harlequin is 8%CBD and only 6% THC and believe me... it's a 'mellow' and not a stone or high that's anything like I've been used to for 25 years. Never had my brain working so well as when I had some of that...

I have no idea what hemp-derived cbd products are like... just what the cannabis with lots of cbd is like.

And again... unless you know exactly what's going in and on the cannabis you're getting from others, the symptoms of organic azadirachtin products produce the same stomach cramping and eventual puking.

Would be interesting to find out what strains folks are toking up that are clean of aza products and still causing the hyperemesis issue.

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Are there are dispensaries in Australia?

G`day Bobble

Jeez you US guys are so US centric .
Look outside the US borders bro .
No! we don`t have fcking dispensaries . We can`t even access MMJ .

Tony Bower went to jail for producing MMJ for patients .

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G`day Bobble

Jeez you US guys are so US centric .
Look outside the US borders bro .
No! we don`t have fcking dispensaries . We can`t even access MMJ .

Tony Bower went to jail for producing MMJ for patients .

Thanks for sharin

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Haha, that's the thing that my friend and his wife said they would miss the most about living here in California. How much cannabis was just accepted out here. They just moved back to NSW after working here for 18 months. Now he says "it's back into the closet".
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Haha, that's the thing that my friend and his wife said they would miss the most about living here in California. How much cannabis was just accepted out here. They just moved back to NSW after working here for 18 months. Now he says "it's back into the closet".
G`day Yujin

As you probably know , laws vary greatly from state to state .
Court to court .
In NSW more than 2 plants indoors and they class it as a commercial op and you may be jailed without bail .
Qld under 100 plants not considered commercial . ??

We are a long way off from MMJ here yet .

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Cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome is real! My 23 year old son has had stomach problems since he's graduated high school , back in 2009 he started getting such severe pain with vomiting that would lead him to the ER... The drs ran all sorts of testings and the only thing they would come up with was gastritis . Every year since then it has gotten worse and worse ! While in high school he played football all four years, weighing over 200 lbs of just about pure muscle at 6 feet tall. The last couple years have been bad bouts of pain and usually starts in the a.m. And he has learned that taking hot showers helps and most times keeps him out of the ER. Back I'm aug 2013 he had another episode that brought him to the ER since the multiple hot showers weren't seeming to work! Since this has been an on going thing the drs started asking if he took drugs , he always said no ( and never told them he smoked pot since that was the only drug he did) ct scans , MRI , ultra sounds labs were always in the normal range. When we had a follow up appt with his GI dr his dr asked if there was anything at home he could do to help with the pain , my son replied with " yes I take hot showers !" The dr then asked if he smoked pot to help relieve the pain , I jumped in to say yes! I felt like I was throwing him under the bus but being his mother and worried about him since this has been going on for years with losing weight and suffering tremendously I was willing to do or say anything to get answers and help ! The dr them told us about cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome , of course my son didn't believe it and me being a smoker also , I had my doubts but was willing to hear it ! Dr said to quit smoking and if the problems stop then problems solved ! My son didn't stop smoking and several weeks later was back in the ER , they admitted him to the hospital since his blood level was low and severely dehydrated! They did scopes up and down and found his galbladder was not working properly and had to remove it , also he had became malnutrition so they had to start feeding him thru the veined ( TPN with picc line which feeds him directly through the heart) he was in the hospital with non stop pain for two months, only home about 4 different times in those two months but came back the next day with pain ( he smoked everytime he came home) this was back in sept when they put the TPN bag on him and he still has it to this day) my son goes to the ER at least once a month if not once a week and they treat him like a drug addict since I told on him for smoking pot and its now on his record ! It takes high doses of *daludid (spelling) to get him out of pain ! The drs can't find anything else wrong with him so I demanded a second opinion which he now has seen a specialist from cedars siani who did an edoscope with ultrasound attached and again , found nothing except imflammed lymph nodes near liver and bile duct but said this shouldn't be causing the amount of pain and nausea with vomiting that he does , they did biopsies and are now waiting for results ! The scope caused a flare up of pain which caused an overnight stay , and has been suffering for two weeks at home after! On this past fri he was back in ER and stayed in hospital over night to control the pain ( we beg drs , since they treat him like crap and say he needs to stop smoking cuz they find nothing wrong) went home the following day and was back again three days later , the pain used to come on after eating or after a bowel movement and most often in the morning , but since being on TPN and not being able to eat his pain comes after a bowel movement I'm the am or for no readin at all , in the am ! His GI dr had just told us there is no reason to keep seeing my son since he's finding nothing wrong and his primary care dr wants to get him off the TPN and back to eating and to see a psycologist since it must be in his head ! I am outraged at the drs since he's on TPN for not being able to eat or poop without pain and his galbladder was bad they found imflammed lymph nodes do there for something must be wrong ! Our only hope now is for him to stop smoking pot to see if the problem stops and if it don't then we can at least say the drs are wrong and to find the problem ! With all this being said I sure hope it is cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome since there is a cure , to quit smoking !!! Tomorrow will be day one of no smoking for him and as he has tried before I know it's not going to be pretty , looking into NA meetings for him ... Please wish us luck !
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