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L-Amino acids

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AkFrost

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Just wondering if anyone has tried L-amino acids with there grows. I just watched a vid on YouTube where Harley Smith was talking about it and it sounds promising to help plants in many ways. Here is the link of the vid. He starts talking about it the 7:40min section of the vid
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bAZyBp6yJsU
 
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AkFrost

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Apparently the link doesn't work. If you google "Organic Biostimulants Harley Smith" it will pop up under videos
 
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AkFrost

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Has anyone used any of the RAW products? Seems like a legit way to try and get the most out of the plants.
 
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DocTim420

The Doctor is OUT and has moved on...
Non-pasteurized milk and soybean meal contain goodly amounts of all 20 L-Amino Acids. But should be reserved for soil/soil-less grow mediums...as these two ingredients are no bueno in hydro.
 
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AkFrost said:
Has anyone used any of the RAW products? Seems like a legit way to try and get the most out of the plants.
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ive never used raw but i do use heavy 16 prime. its got the L aminos,fulivc,kelp and shit load of other things all in one. so base nutes of your choice and heavy 16 prime and thats it
 
Ibechillin

Ibechillin

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Awesome you found Harley Smith's info, Ive learned alot from him. Soy is the best source of aminos, fulvic acid is another great chelator.

"The Latin name for soybeans is glycine max. Soybeans contain the highest level of the amino acid glycine found in plants. L-Glycine is the smallest amino acid and because of its small size it penetrates plant tissues easily. This quality makes glycine an ideal chelating agent"

Ibechillin said:
With soluble aminos added calcium availability can can be increased considerably as well, "Thousands of times faster" is how Harley Smith worded it.
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Link to sources:

https://www.maximumyield.com/grow-stronger-plants-building-blocks-proteins/2/1497

https://www.maximumyield.com/amino-acid-chelates-giving-your-plants-a-helping-hand/2/916

https://www.maximumyield.com/what-to-do-about-powdery-mildew/2/1400

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=357679

Ferti Nitro Plus is derived from non gmo soy, heres a Link to ferti nitro plus 80.88% aminos:

https://customhydronutrients.com/fertinitro-plus-four-pound-p-460.html?cPath=118_571_572&zenid=39047bd50e88edfaebebbc935327696d

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I learned some good information from slownickel awhile ago about kelp:

Ascophyllum nodosum is the typically recommended kelp to use for plants, but its not that simple. Theres no way of knowing whats really in a kelp product other than the type of kelp and extraction process used, which could end up doing more harm than good in the long run if the auxin/cytokynin levels are unknown.

slownickel said:
Be careful when buying seaweeds. There are good ones and ones that have little value. Also, where to apply them and when is an issue.

For example, applying a cytokinin to the roots will actually tend to stall the plants. Roots get lazy. Always apply cytokinin seaweeds foliarly. Small quantities constantly and mixed with other foliars. The best cytokinin source on the market is North American Kelp, Seacrop 16. It has the highest guaranteed cytokinin level on the planet, 400ppms. This should be used from veg up through week 3 of flower.

For root applications, you really want to use an auxin seaweed source. So far, the only one that I have been able to find in the US is Kelpak. This applied to roots and foliage, forces more roots. Don't use it after week 1 of flower. All through veg is great.

We did side by side tests. Been through the bunch, Acadian, Maxi, SM6 (UK) and a few I can't remember. many folk won't get a lot of response from a good seaweed product if they really don't have their nutrition dialed in. That means having enough Ca and P most times. Most folk don't. All the seaweed in the world can't get you past the big problems. This is why many say, oh, tried it and I didn't see much. But that can also come from low hormone content. Many seaweed products aren't actually made for fertilizer use
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BillFarthing

BillFarthing

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DocTim420 said:
Non-pasteurized milk and soybean meal contain goodly amounts of all 20 L-Amino Acids. But should be reserved for soil/soil-less grow mediums...as these two ingredients are no bueno in hydro.
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I believe it's the same for hydrolyzed whey protein.
 
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Naberus

New member
Bioheaven from Biobizz is a good product that provides L-amino acids from soybeans.

Does anybody used whey protein in the plants with good results?
 
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temper888

New member
I dont use whey protein on plants but i did use amino acids that i have around for preworkouts. Since they are 100% pure i dont think the source matter. I count them as 20%N, and use at most equivalent of 30ppm N of them. I grow in greenhouse, directly in to self-made living soil, about 800 liter volume/plant.

I noticed a boost in grow and vigor whenever im using them, not sure if is the calcium absorbing better like Harley Smith say, or is the glycine chelating (i use 1/3 glycine usually), or maybe im just adding N. At the end of the season when temps drop and conditions are not ideal they seem to have the greatest impact in keeping the plant from stagnating. In addition to glycine during veg i use EAA and whatever else i have, in flower i use just glutamine, bit of arginine and of course glycine.
 
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