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Immunity - where has it gone?

moses wellfleet

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It is in the interest of modern medicine to strip us of our natural immunity to disease, so they can sell it back to us with each injection, tablet, surgical procedure.
 

Amynamous

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How is modern medicine stripping us of our immunity?
I believe that our personal actions(diet, exercise, sunshine,etc) affect our immunity.
 

Switcher56

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It is in the interest of modern medicine to strip us of our natural immunity to disease, so they can sell it back to us with each injection, tablet, surgical procedure.
Let me tell you of a story about a man name Jed...

Dang wrong story but, where would you like me to start? I don't have weeks! LOL.
 

moses wellfleet

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How is modern medicine stripping us of our immunity?
I believe that our personal actions(diet, exercise, sunshine,etc) affect our immunity.

Well immunity is acquired during our early years, by exposure to germs. We are encouraged to bring up our children in sterile environments, I'm referring to western countries now obviously.

Some children living in high rise apartments don't even get to play in soil anymore, where they would encounter germs essential for building immunity. Increasingly this is the norm.

We are sterilizing ourselves out of existence!
 

St. Phatty

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It is in the interest of modern medicine to strip us of our natural immunity to disease, so they can sell it back to us with each injection, tablet, surgical procedure.


The parallel implication is that American "doctors" sometimes deliberately harm patients, to create work for their colleagues.

Unfortunately, that is EXACTLY what they do.


My goal for 2020 was to completely avoid giving ANY $$ to any medical organization in the US.

So far so Good, KNOCK ON WOOD.

27 days to go.
 

moses wellfleet

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The parallel implication is that American "doctors" sometimes deliberately harm patients, to create work for their colleagues.

Unfortunately, that is EXACTLY what they do.


My goal for 2020 was to completely avoid giving ANY $$ to any medical organization in the US.

So far so Good, KNOCK ON WOOD.

27 days to go.

Well exactly, the way that modern medicine and the pharmaceutical industry has evolved, the place we have arrived at, it is not in their interest to have healthy people you are worth so much more if you are sick.
 

moses wellfleet

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chilliwilli

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chilliwilli

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I think its not all black and white with modern medicine. For example vaccination for pox. Good that its gone and we don't have to vac for that any more but i feel little lucky that i got the shot as a child.
 

flylowgethigh

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The parallel implication is that American "doctors" sometimes deliberately harm patients, to create work for their colleagues.

Unfortunately, that is EXACTLY what they do.


My goal for 2020 was to completely avoid giving ANY $$ to any medical organization in the US.

So far so Good, KNOCK ON WOOD.

27 days to go.

That's a tad farther than I am going, but I do not take any of their medications which require MIC approval. It was nice of them to fix the stomach hernia, that they caused by not diagnosing and curing a fungal infection in my sinus. I mis-trust the med-mafia greatly, and usually just go to a specialist and get a specific thing done.
 

Gypsy Nirvana

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We used to play in fields of good earth when we were kids - as our kin harvested the crops - we would help too - but today in suberbialand it's another world - with parents reticent to let kids be kids and play outside as they once did - no more games of football in the street and everyone and everything has to be sanitized - how did we ever get here?
 

moses wellfleet

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Ok so here's the deal this what got me thinking about the topic


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"In Africa one rarely farts with confidence" - Sam Kiley. The guy was a British journalist working in Africa for several years. The food there and the water supply was heavy on his guts, he was constantly shitting his pants!

But now the local people who live there are able to tolerate these conditions without a problem. This wasn't dysentery or cholera making the guy sick, simply everyday ordinary living conditions in that part of the world. The environment he came from in the UK has 'modern' health standards so his body had never been exposed to these tougher living conditions. And I guess you could say the vast majority of the world is just as 'unhygenic'.

Now who is at a disadvantage here, the British guy with the upset stomach or the African people who aren't able to enjoy first world living standards, it is an interesting question?

Obviously sterile conditions are very important for surgery and other medical procedures that have allowed us to survive previously lethal injuries. Imagine a cut becoming infected with gangrene for example.
 
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Gypsy Nirvana

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- funny - I never got sick in the tropics - maybe it was the earthworm I ate as a hungry and curious child in the west - or just coming from people who lived in the dirt - so had already established a good immune system - was breastfed - so had it in the blood - and the milk?
 

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