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PGR's and seed's

bigbag

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anyone know when pollinating a plant subjected to a PGR such a Paclo, will progeny be affected...? :tiphat:
 

Only Ornamental

Spiritually inspired agnostic mad scientist
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Depends on the PGR.
There are indications that some affect the offspring because one part of the seed is tissue from the mother plant and most of the offspring's tissue is grown under the influence (hormones and genetic expression!) of the mother plant.
Changing gene expression can affect a seed and plants have the ability to inherit epigenetic modifications (which directly regulate gene expression). It shouldn't change it's genetic code, though. Hence, the offspring may become a 'changed' plant in appearance mostly due to having a different start but it shouldn't inherit that (the changes due to a modified seed development, not the epigenetic stuff). But paclobutrazol doesn't affect gene expression (well, maybe it does but that would be a side effect) but inhibits certain enzymes involved in the synthesis of gibberellins. Gibberellins on the other hand are VERY important in pollen tube growth and fruit/seed development! A plant treated with a GA antagonist may probably have difficulties building viable seeds which are the essence of a vigorously growing offspring. It mostly depends on how much active paclobutrazol still remains in the mother plant (a wild guess would be that it's still a lot).
- Is 'PGR offspring' unhealthy to smoke? No
- Is 'PGR offspring' useful for breeding projects? I wouldn't use it because the plant you see may not be the plant it is. But should it be an exceptional individual, why not? As long as you test grow it's offspring, there's no reason why you shouldn't use it.

PS Why the heck do you even use paclobutrazol? *wretch*
 

bigbag

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right on. not a fan of using paclo myself but do work for people who insist on using it, strictly from a yield, bud density standpoint...most of the phospho load type product's don't list paclo, but what's working then ?
 

Only Ornamental

Spiritually inspired agnostic mad scientist
Veteran
A: Get new friends
or
B: Get a new job

C: Why would anyone with a sense for business list paclo in their products? Its use is highly limited to a few selected crops and cannabis doesn't even come close to them.

D: Not sure what you mean with your last phrase. Are you looking for a paclo alternative (from a legal and health point of view, there is none though there are likely better alternatives and hypothetically it is possible using non-chemical methods but should they work, they won't be that easy) or are you wondering what makes commercial products active (as said, there are other chemicals with the same or a very similar effect though none is approved for cannabis or similar crops and hence no real businessman, those people living only for $$ and having no conscience and no heart, would list them)?
 
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