Lisdexik
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I decided to make a thread for my OH x SK1 freebies, as there is not a lot of info on this cross in comparison to how many freebie seeds are out there..... especially info on inbreeding and out-crossing. Hopefully this thread will help change that... Feel free to post your collections of information/pictures of this cross in this thread to help encourage others to pop these awesome freebies
Because this cross is excellent breeding material, my goal is to stabilize P1 seed-stock out of OH phenotypes by the F4/F5 generation for the purpose of making ind/sat F1 Hybrids for personal medicine.
I would also like to emphasize that this project is purely experimental, and a learning experience as I am a relatively inexperienced breeder. All input/comments/criticisms are welcomed here....
Here's a brief timeline of what has happened thus far:
2009 –
Received Freebee 10 pk. from seed boutique
2010 –
-Sprouted seeds, 5 were successful, 5 did not germ (2wks germination)
-2 Females, 3 Males (open pollination)
-The plants were grown indoors in a large rubbermaid tub 12/12 from seed, with the only goal being the production F2 seedsock.
2011-
- (70) F2 seeds planted directly into soil and placed under 20/4 lighting for ~2 weeks, 50 successfully germed.
- (31) of those germed were vigorous enough to keep after 4 weeks 13/11 lighting:
- (3) hermies culled, (2) Females & (2) Males culled for not responding to increased dark periods.
- (16) healthy females, (7) healthy males making flowers after 3 weeks 11/13 lighting, (1) still un-sexed…
-So far there are two major phenotypical groups within the F2 seeds; the first being a more indica dominant group, leaning the skunk 1 side. This group has large fan leaves attached to long fuzzy light green petioles. The leaves have large serrations, with some leaves containing double serrations and a low amount of venation. The pigmentation on the stems is all pale green with large amounts of fuzz covering them on all parts of the plants. These phenotypes are all very productive and vigorous, even in small containers. They grow very fast in early flower with a lot of stretch if un-topped with x-mas tree formation, but if topped they produce symmetrical growth patterns in a bushy plant shorter internodal distance. Some females within this phenotypical group have very dark resin when pruned exuding from the stalk. When dry, it forms a helmet of shiney black resin that can be picked off and rolled between the fingers. This group requires more fertile soil than the sativa phenotypes. They can handle larger amounts of nitrogen without being stunted or burned. This group flowers much faster than the sativa phenos, showing sex in 13/11 light schedules, and producing resin much faster into 11/13 than more sativa dominant phenos as well (10 0f 16 Females/2 of 7 males).
The second phenotypical group within the seeds (6 of 16 Females/5 of 7 males) is also easily separable in physical features as well. The second group is much more sativa than the first group. These phenotypes are extremely slow to show sex in flower; many wouldn’t show in 13/11 lighting, but almost all have shown in 11/13 lighting (~2 weeks in). I don’t know yet if this is from N levels being too high, or because they were grown 12/12 from seed and experienced PH problems within the soil the first 4-5 weeks of life. Some have only made a few pistils thus far, and others are on their way to making calyxes already. This group of phenotypes is easy to distinguish as many of them are stunted from too much N, and are much smaller thus far. All of the plants within the group have red/rose/purple colorations present on their petioles, and on two of the males this coloration is present on the stalks and new growth as well. Some phenos that have been topped are exuding a rust/oxide to red color resin from the stem and branches. Some phenos are stretchy and branchy, and slower flowering, while others are more columnar and faster flowering, handling slightly* larger amounts of fertilizer as well, but all the phenos in this group display the petiole/stem coloration, low nutrient demand, low leaf mass (skinny blades), and a higher level of leaf serration/venation.
Pics coming soon....
Because this cross is excellent breeding material, my goal is to stabilize P1 seed-stock out of OH phenotypes by the F4/F5 generation for the purpose of making ind/sat F1 Hybrids for personal medicine.
I would also like to emphasize that this project is purely experimental, and a learning experience as I am a relatively inexperienced breeder. All input/comments/criticisms are welcomed here....
Here's a brief timeline of what has happened thus far:
2009 –
Received Freebee 10 pk. from seed boutique
2010 –
-Sprouted seeds, 5 were successful, 5 did not germ (2wks germination)
-2 Females, 3 Males (open pollination)
-The plants were grown indoors in a large rubbermaid tub 12/12 from seed, with the only goal being the production F2 seedsock.
2011-
- (70) F2 seeds planted directly into soil and placed under 20/4 lighting for ~2 weeks, 50 successfully germed.
- (31) of those germed were vigorous enough to keep after 4 weeks 13/11 lighting:
- (3) hermies culled, (2) Females & (2) Males culled for not responding to increased dark periods.
- (16) healthy females, (7) healthy males making flowers after 3 weeks 11/13 lighting, (1) still un-sexed…
-So far there are two major phenotypical groups within the F2 seeds; the first being a more indica dominant group, leaning the skunk 1 side. This group has large fan leaves attached to long fuzzy light green petioles. The leaves have large serrations, with some leaves containing double serrations and a low amount of venation. The pigmentation on the stems is all pale green with large amounts of fuzz covering them on all parts of the plants. These phenotypes are all very productive and vigorous, even in small containers. They grow very fast in early flower with a lot of stretch if un-topped with x-mas tree formation, but if topped they produce symmetrical growth patterns in a bushy plant shorter internodal distance. Some females within this phenotypical group have very dark resin when pruned exuding from the stalk. When dry, it forms a helmet of shiney black resin that can be picked off and rolled between the fingers. This group requires more fertile soil than the sativa phenotypes. They can handle larger amounts of nitrogen without being stunted or burned. This group flowers much faster than the sativa phenos, showing sex in 13/11 light schedules, and producing resin much faster into 11/13 than more sativa dominant phenos as well (10 0f 16 Females/2 of 7 males).
The second phenotypical group within the seeds (6 of 16 Females/5 of 7 males) is also easily separable in physical features as well. The second group is much more sativa than the first group. These phenotypes are extremely slow to show sex in flower; many wouldn’t show in 13/11 lighting, but almost all have shown in 11/13 lighting (~2 weeks in). I don’t know yet if this is from N levels being too high, or because they were grown 12/12 from seed and experienced PH problems within the soil the first 4-5 weeks of life. Some have only made a few pistils thus far, and others are on their way to making calyxes already. This group of phenotypes is easy to distinguish as many of them are stunted from too much N, and are much smaller thus far. All of the plants within the group have red/rose/purple colorations present on their petioles, and on two of the males this coloration is present on the stalks and new growth as well. Some phenos that have been topped are exuding a rust/oxide to red color resin from the stem and branches. Some phenos are stretchy and branchy, and slower flowering, while others are more columnar and faster flowering, handling slightly* larger amounts of fertilizer as well, but all the phenos in this group display the petiole/stem coloration, low nutrient demand, low leaf mass (skinny blades), and a higher level of leaf serration/venation.
Pics coming soon....