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OBAMA AND WEED
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I never heard that before.NightFire said:
Still. I'm just putting these people on notice.
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Source?
Koroz
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NightFire said:
you should listen to his latest youtube video where the same guy he told that too in the primary, asked him again after he got the repub nom, and he backtracks and says that he finds no medicinal value in marijuana and would not stop the raids on medicinal use states.
Since we're talking about the presidency, politics is a given. I find it... silly... to assume constitutionalists and libertarians are somehow immune to standard Washington politics, just because of their beliefs. Even the venerable Ron Paul is a politician, after all -- that is his job description! And politicians advance their "agendas", as you put it, through politics, and nothing else.thinman said:
First of all, let's not pretend there's a clearly drawn line between the capitalism and socialism ideals. The last time I checked, you already do pay more, if you're in a higher tax bracket, regardless of who is in office. If you want to accuse Obama of socialism for that, then you should do the same for the other 4 candidates, including the constitution and libertarian party candidates. I've never heard anyone besides Ron Paul talk of repealing income tax brackets.NightFire said:
Now let's get to the brunt of the issue.
1. Public health care does not mean "free" medical care.
2. Unless you make $250,000+ annual income, Obama never said he would raise your taxes.
It's easy to diseminate half-truths and keywords (e.g. socialist) to create a flawed association, in this case, to Obama. I see time and again people copying and pasting ideas to attack either candidate from skewed political website. It's like reading off a propaganda pamphlet and pretending those are your own opinions.
The hard part is finding the facts.
rightwingblazer
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first off, here are some facts about the tax code. the top 5% pay 60% of all the taxes. the bottom 40% pay no taxes. if you take a close look at obamas plan, there is no deduction in the tax rate at all. you will get a tax rebate instead. now, if you get a tax rebate and pay no taxes, that is called welfare/entitlements my friend.a.k.a. income redistribution. how is that not socialism? take a second look. i thought you used the facts ?
the main reason the dems want national healthcare isnt because they feel sorry for the poor, it is because of the massive pressure from big corporations that cant handle the unions demands for thier workers. so they what us to pay it for them, so they can survive instead of going under. take a look at g.m. and ford.
the main reason the dems want national healthcare isnt because they feel sorry for the poor, it is because of the massive pressure from big corporations that cant handle the unions demands for thier workers. so they what us to pay it for them, so they can survive instead of going under. take a look at g.m. and ford.
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I have not been closing down the other threads. But as Moderater its my duty to respect the wishes of the owners. These threads where to pertain strictly about Marijuana and Laws. There are about a half a dozen here who seem to not be able to follow that. And continue time and time again to talk about other issues. This is not a political forum about everything and anything. Its about Marijuana and the things effected by Marijuana regarding laws and politics. So we are close to election times. Lets keep any future threads regarding marijuana and any politician just that. Or you will find that thread being closed or moved to the Recycling Bin.
Much Respect,
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Much Respect,
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