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It's 2050: Can We Feed Nine Billion People Sustainably?

Grat3fulh3ad

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"Sometime around 2050, there are going to be nine billion people roaming this planet—two billion more than there are today. It's a safe bet that all those folks will want to eat. And that's... an incredibly daunting prospect. Right now, an estimated one billion people go hungry each day..."
Sometime around 2050, there are going to be nine billion people roaming this planet—two billion more than there are today. It's a safe bet that all those folks will want to eat. And that's... an incredibly daunting prospect. Right now, an estimated one billion people go hungry each day. So add two billion more people, a limited supply of arable land, plus the fact that rising incomes will boost demand for meat and dairy products, plus the fact that many key natural resources (fisheries, say) are already being overexploited… and it's hard to see the situation getting better. And that's before we get into the fact that the planet's heating up, which is expected to wreak havoc on agricultural yields.

Still, not everyone's convinced that feeding nine billion people—and doing it in a sustainable fashion—is a totally impossible task. A new paper published this week in Science, written by Britain's chief scientific adviser John Beddington along with nine other experts, outlines a way this could actually be done. The catch? Doing so would require "radical" changes to the current global food system. The paper's a great synthesis of a wide range of different food issues, and I'll just pull out the main ideas:

Boosting crop yields: If the supply of farmland is ultimately finite, then boosting yields is the only way we'll get more food. Now, this subject usually gets tangled up in heated debates about the virtues or evils of genetically modified foods—and the study authors do recommend GM crops as a "potentially valuable technology" that "should neither be privileged nor automatically dismissed." (Imagining that fancy technology will just solve all these food problems, though, is likely misguided.) But there are plenty of smaller, more mundane yield-boosting approaches, too—right now, there are plenty of small farmers in the developing world that could get more out of their land right now with better training or access to financing. (This is known as the "yield gap.")

Stop tossing out so much food: The study estimates that 30 percent to 40 percent of the world's food is thrown out each year. In poorer countries, this typically happens because the food-chain infrastructure is shoddy, or storage facilities are inadequate—something that's pretty straightforward to fix. In wealthier countries, the causes of waste are a lot more varied: Cheap food, the craze for supersized portions, the fact that stores throw away perfectly edible food because it's not as visually appealing, an overreliance on use-by dates "whose safety margins often mean that food fit for consumption is thrown away." Fixing all this would require major advocacy campaigns—though, no, it doesn't mean we'd all have to become freegans.

Fewer hamburgers: Can't imagine this one will go over well, but the authors do suggest that people will probably have to reduce their meat consumption slightly to feed nine billion people. This doesn't mean going vegetarian. A recent study from Germany's Potsdam Institute found that if everyone had a diet equivalent to eating meat three times a week, it'd be perfectly doable to feed nine billion people and rein in some of the gruesome excesses of factory farming. But if the whole world adopted a Western meat diet, we'd need to start razing forests for additional land—three million square kilometers all told, an area about two-thirds the size of the current Amazon rain forest. (Or, who knows? Maybe by 2050 we'll all resort to in vitro meat instead.)

A slew of green technical stuff: Of course, all those other measures will only go so far. There are also some serious threats to the long-term sustainability of agriculture lurking out there. Global warming's a big one. But then also water shortages due to over-extraction. Soil degradation due to poor farming techniques. Loss of biodiversity due poor management. The fact that fisheries are being ravaged (so something like a cap-and-trade system for fish could help here). A lot of the fixes here are dry and technical, and they tend to get discussed as wonky enviro ideas that might be nice to do but aren't essential. Except that, as the Science study makes clear, they really are crucial—at least if all those nine billion people want enough to eat.

P.S. Oh yes, forgot one: biofuels! It's probably going to be hard to find enough food for nine billion people if we're still diverting vast swaths of farmland for crop-based ethanol. (Though maybe by then we'll have moved on to algae fuels or electric cars or some other fancy technology.)
 

Clackamas Coot

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Besides the issue of production there is the issue of distribution.

In the area of fresh produce between 8-10% is lost at 3 different levels (each) before it hits the grocery store shelves where another 12-15% will be tossed out.

It's a real shame.

CC
 

hamstorg

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9 Billion?Considering there will be no WW3?I estimate a quarter of the population to live if that ever comes out.around 2.5 bil that is.
 

Trillion

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The world cant support 1 billion let alone 9 billion indefinately.

No big deal, the population of most animals is constantly in a state of flux.
I have full faith in mother nature to regulate this planet, we've done a nice bit of damage but all wounds heal with time....
 
decentralize...it is the only answer


make a law, you can grow as much herb as u want but must have a "matching" food crop

monocropping is bad, so that will drive variety.
 
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mugenbao

Given that we already have so many people starving to death all over the planet, I'd say it's a safe bet that if we ever get to nine billion people, the rich will eat and the poor will die. Just like today, only more pronounced.
 
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ariston

Lets not forget who is reproducing and who isnt. Advanced societes are not prone to reproducing so much. The ones already starving though, are the kind who have 6 children or more.

I find it stupid that we reproduce so much. There really isnt a need for more people. More people means we drain more off of earth. And when it comes to development, consider how a country like Sweden has a world top 5 university with a population of 9 million. Then you have countries like Liberia, where a woman averages 6.8 children, only a fourth of the population has a secondary school education, and to see it with your own eyes: http://www.vbs.tv/watch/the-vice-gui...liberia-1-of-8
 

IC BUDZ

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people have starved for centuries. whether theres a huge population or not. based on the data given 9 Billion large i think were ready to start looking for planets that could possibly sustain life. and quite frankly we could go build some shuttles on mars and start taking over the rest of the galaxy the human domination
 

Grat3fulh3ad

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Lets not forget who is reproducing and who isnt. Advanced societes are not prone to reproducing so much. The ones already starving though, are the kind who have 6 children or more.

I find it stupid that we reproduce so much. There really isnt a need for more people. More people means we drain more off of earth. And when it comes to development, consider how a country like Sweden has a world top 5 university with a population of 9 million. Then you have countries like Liberia, where a woman averages 6.8 children, only a fourth of the population has a secondary school education, and to see it with your own eyes: http://www.vbs.tv/watch/the-vice-guide-to-travel/the-vice-guide-to-liberia-1-of-8

the pope told them not to use condoms, it is not their fault.
 

Grat3fulh3ad

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people have starved for centuries. whether theres a huge population or not. based on the data given 9 Billion large i think were ready to start looking for planets that could possibly sustain life. and quite frankly we could go build some shuttles on mars and start taking over the rest of the galaxy the human domination

If every living person on the planet consumed resources at the same rate as the average US citizen, then we would need 5 earths to sustain production.
 

IC BUDZ

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well then we better get off our lazy asses and start workin on that shit,BUT the aliens, I here they work for a dime a dozen. get that built quick son
 

Charybdis

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If every living person on the planet consumed resources at the same rate as the average US citizen, then we would need 5 earths to sustain production.

Good point, but it's actually well over 20. We could possibly support that many people, but only if people ate less meat. Whether you agree with vegetarianism philosophically or not, there's really no arguing that it takes far fewer resources to grow grains / fruits / veggies than to take those grains and what have you, then feed them to cattle / pigs etc.

But yeah the world is doomed; it's either going to be a war, a plague, or a famine while the rich get richer and the poor get prison, same old story.

Also, I think it's awesome how we could feed the billion or so who can't afford food for what amounts to pocket change, and yet we don't.
 

VerdantGreen

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yeah you americans need to stop eating burgers :D (and us brits too)

meat production is only 10% as efficient as veg production for the land it uses, not to mention the methane and deforestation.

eating meat is worse for the planet than driving a gas guzzling 4 wheel drive (we call them twatwagons) ;)

V.
 

hunt4genetics

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The trend has been : as incomes increase, so does protein consumption. I feel that 9 billion people can exist comfortably if animal protein choices change. If every middle class person on the planet then choices to eat beef 4 times a week, there may be issues.

If the popular protein of choice is seafood, kangaroo,rabbits,ostrich, etc it's a start.
 

Charybdis

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Seafood isn't the answer either; it's projected that we're going to deplete stocks almost completely by 2050.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/02/AR2006110200913.html

There's always farm raised fish, but that's chock-full of all sorts of crap you don't really want to eat.

There's also the Great Garbage Patch in the north Pacific; read about that here:

http://www.independent.co.uk/enviro...at-stretches-from-hawaii-to-japan-778016.html

It is a swirling mass of garbage, roughly twice as large as the continental US.

watergarbage.jpg


Needless to say that's not a good sign.
 
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Grat3fulh3ad

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The trend has been : as incomes increase, so does protein consumption. I feel that 9 billion people can exist comfortably if animal protein choices change. If every middle class person on the planet then choices to eat beef 4 times a week, there may be issues.

If the popular protein of choice is seafood, kangaroo,rabbits,ostrich, etc it's a start.

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