Fiddynut's indoor jungle

pop_rocks said:

yeah man, i was suprised at how it came out
like you said, its only about 8g a bottle but the way i figure it, its like a shot and a bong hit at once
mrs chicky def loved it, maybe a bit too much
her friend is totally down to make more

i will be making fresh ground beef again!

so if i got myself some pork loin and pork belly, would that make for good sausage?
what would you recomend as a seasoning?
i put this smoke house seasoning in with the slider meat and it really brought out the best in the bacon
i think you are right about using less expensive cuts
rib eye is best enjoyed on the grill
plus i can get another tri tip on the cheap and its not much more than the prepackaged ground beef they sell in the stores
thanks for all the help on this and i hope to one day make some stuffed sausages like the ones you ahev show in the past

those plants are looking great
good call on mixing the of and hf, that should not be too hot for the young plants
they look like they are jsut about through the seedling stage and should really take off any time now

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Good morning pop_rocks.
I think the potency speaks to the quality of your larf. If it wasn't super frosty and potent the booze wouldn't have the kick it does. Great job.

Belly and loin would make great sausage. I use shoulder because it's cheap and they are nice and big for making bigger batches. As long as you can get a 75/25 or 70/30 meat/fat content it will be nice and juicy. I'm at work but when I get home tonight I'll post a few recipes. As important as fat to meat ratio is the salt to meat is just as important. My recipes all use an amount of salt per pound of meat and fat and then individual spices for flavor. There are a lot of great seasoning blends available but almost all of them contain salt. This makes it very hard to get the salt ratio right. It's possible you could look at the nutrition label and figure out how many mg of salt is in the mix and then add more of your own salt to get to the right level,of salt. I'm sure with some experimentation you could get it dialed in if you find one you really like. I'll post some info about salt ratios when I post the recipes this evening.

I'm not against grinding up a rib eye or New York, in fact I will try it soon when I find something on sale. Every cut of beef has a slightly different flavor and texture and all should be enjoyed in all ways if one likes. But don't over look the super beefy cuts like chuck and brisket because they really lend themselves to grinding. Lots of tough cuts that take a long time to cook are great for grinding. Also it's said that it's a talented chef that can make a great meal out of lesser ingredients where as anyone can make an expensive steak taste good.

The LW's are looking pretty good this morning. They are pretty young so I wanted to cool down the soil a little with the Happy Frog. Final transplant will be into ocean forest with a little perlite.

Have a great day and I'll get those recipes up tonight...Fiddy.

Sausage time

Sausage time

Tonight I'm doing a couple of my favorite things, listening to some grateful dead and talking about food. As china cat plays I'm looking through my recipes and scanning the book that started my interest in curing meat and making sausage. The book is called: Charcuterie The craft of salting, smoking, and curing. It's coauthored by Michael Ruhlman and Brian Polcyn. If you have an interest in making sausage or curing meat the old fashioned way I highly recommend it.

I've already beat a dead horse by saying over and over how important it is to keep the meat and equipment as cold as possible and I'm going to say it one more time. Texture of finished product and food safety make this the top priority.

Second most important is salt and fat content. Sausage is fatty stuff and trying to make it low fat will make it dry and shitty. 25-30% fat is good for most fresh pork sausages. Salt is also very important. Too little salt and your sausage will be bland and too much and ...well...you know. However people have different salt tolerance and you may have to adjust a little for varying tastes. I personally have a lower salt tolerance than the authors of Charcuterie and use 15-20% less salt per batch than they do. I think I'm at the lower end and wouldn't go much under the 32g kosher per 5 pounds of meat+fat that I use. I think Michael and Brian are at the high end of salt tolerance and use 40g kosher per 5 pounds meat. That is a little above 1.75% salt. I'm closer to 1.5% total salt content. Most people will be good with 1.5-1.75% salt for fresh pork sausage.

Now for the fun part. Once you have your meat cold and your fat and salt right you can use any seasonings you like. Take your brat recipe and throw in a cup of chopped jalapeño or onion. You can experiment as much as you like and should do so. One word of caution adding cheese is a great idea but hard to pull off. It melts out when cooking and can be a mess. They make high temp cheese but I'm not sure if it's made in a factory in china or what. It can be done but not easy.

First I'll share a breakfast sausage recipe from the Charcuterie book. This has their salt ratio at 1.75%. If you don't like it salty try 32g/5pounds and add more if needed.

5 pounds pork shoulder
40g kosher salt
50g peeled and finely grated fresh ginger or 8g dry
30g finely chopped fresh sage
18g minced garlic
6g ground black pepper
1c ice water

Dice the meat and mix in all the ingredients except ice water. COOL it back down then grind through the fine plate. I'm sure it would be good in a medium or corse grind as well.
If stuffing mix in the ice water and re chill the mixture then stuff into casings.

Don't like one of the spices? Leave it out. Want it hotter? Add more pepper or some red pepper flakes.


These next two are recipes I developed with trial and error. I like to mix in the seasonings into,the cubed up meat the night before so it distributes and has a chance to get really COLD overnight. If you add diced peppers or anything chunky you can do that after grinding.

Italian sausage
5 pounds pork (butt+belly to get fat content right)
32g kosher salt
30g granulated sugar
2.5 tsp black pepper
2 Tbs paprika
2 Tbs fennel seeds Toasted
1 tsp garlic powder
1/3c chopped fresh basil
1/2c dry red wine
1/4c red wine vinegar

Combine all except basil, wine, and vinegar and chill until ready to grind. Grind with medium plate. Mix in the basil, wine, and vinegar and re chill until ready to stuff.

Pork brats (bratwurst)
5 pounds pork (butt+belly to get fat content right)
32g kosher salt
16g granulated sugar
2 tsp black pepper
1 tsp ground ginger
1/2 tsp coriander
3/4 tsp nutmeg
1/4 tsp celery seed
1/2 tsp mustard powder
6-8 oz beer

I usually add chopped peppers or onions to these brats. Add all dry ingredients and meat....COLD....grind. Then add peppers and beer if you are going to stuff into casings.

I recommend scaling these down and starting out with a small batch to see how you like them. And go ahead and experiment with the spices and whatnot.

As friend of the devil plays and I pack another bowl I'm going to have to sign off soon. My eyes are crossed from looking at this screen and I have to check on my plants. Let me know if you like these recipes and I have plenty more to post. Later...Fiddy.

you are awsome man!
thanks for posting those recipies up

cant wait to get back on the grind!

so a little while back, i was blessed with some dog treats from a friend here at IC mag

they were a g13(airborn) x chemD x (triangle kush x tresdawg) cross

i dident hvae great germination rates and kind of left them alone, but recently was pleasantly suprised to see one late riser

she is prob about 3-4 wks old now and should be showing her sex soon


so far she is showing really stout growth and nice leaf structure
a beautiful plant indeed!

/and to the friend: thanks again brother!

pop_rocks said:

so a little while back, i was blessed with some dog treats from a friend here at IC mag

they were a g13(airborn) x chemD x (triangle kush x tresdawg) cross

i dident hvae great germination rates and kind of left them alone, but recently was pleasantly suprised to see one late riser

she is prob about 3-4 wks old now and should be showing her sex soon

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so far she is showing really stout growth and nice leaf structure
a beautiful plant indeed!

/and to the friend: thanks again brother!

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Good afternoon pop_rocks.
She (I hope it's a she) is a good looker isn't she. Really nice shape and that deep green color is beautiful. I hope to see more of her the next couple months and can't wait to see the flowers on her. Sounds like a great cross too. Nice and stout and nice fat leaves. Thanks for posting pop_rocks.

I love plant porn so anyone else go ahead and post pics of your beautiful plants if you like. I may have created this thread but it belongs to all of us and our combined input makes it what it is. Thanks brothers...Fiddy.

pop_rocks said:

so a little while back, i was blessed with some dog treats from a friend here at IC mag

they were a g13(airborn) x chemD x (triangle kush x tresdawg) cross

i dident hvae great germination rates and kind of left them alone, but recently was pleasantly suprised to see one late riser

she is prob about 3-4 wks old now and should be showi

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so far she is showing really stout growth and nice leaf structure
a beautiful plant indeed!

/and to the friend: thanks again brother!

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Does look like a stout girl to me how close is your light? Mine stretch early and get leggy sometimes. Is that more indica being close branching?

Morning All.

@ReikoX - Huge thanks for the link - great to see what's out there.

@Fiddy - Wow - those sausages ... mmmm. Surprised you had any sort of issues on transplanting at that size - seemed to me about perfect timing to move them to bigger pots. Glad to hear they've rebounded.

@pop_rocks - Holy crapola them leaves are dark green - like wow, amazing dark, though @Fiddy beat me to the punch in callin them out as dark. Just lookin so nice.

And for the rest of what I've missed last few day (my drunk-ass son didn't take care of the garden when I was gone and I've spent all my free time trying to repair shit) - man, I love me a good red wine. Had an amazing Pinot when I was out in Vegas one of the nights. One of my friends bought it (it was over $100 for the bottle) - but damn, it was good. I normally drink Cupcake Merlot or a Yellowtail Shiraz - I have 2 glasses a night every night, love my vino.

And I LOVE me some bud porn - almost as much as I love me regular porn.

Come to think about it, I love me bud porn more than regular porn. As old as I am, damn, I get much more enjoyment out of a few tokes than poppin my nuts off.

Sunny FL Indica said:

Morning All.

@ReikoX - Huge thanks for the link - great to see what's out there.

@Fiddy - Wow - those sausages ... mmmm. Surprised you had any sort of issues on transplanting at that size - seemed to me about perfect timing to move them to bigger pots. Glad to hear they've rebounded.

@pop_rocks - Holy crapola them leaves are dark green - like wow, amazing dark, though @Fiddy beat me to the punch in callin them out as dark. Just lookin so nice.

And for the rest of what I've missed last few day (my drunk-ass son didn't take care of the garden when I was gone and I've spent all my free time trying to repair shit) - man, I love me a good red wine. Had an amazing Pinot when I was out in Vegas one of the nights. One of my friends bought it (it was over $100 for the bottle) - but damn, it was good. I normally drink Cupcake Merlot or a Yellowtail Shiraz - I have 2 glasses a night every night, love my vino.

And I LOVE me some bud porn - almost as much as I love me regular porn.

Come to think about it, I love me bud porn more than regular porn. As old as I am, damn, I get much more enjoyment out of a few tokes than poppin my nuts off.

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Good morning Sunny.
I think you are right the plants were at the perfect time for transplant. The roots were young and fragile and a couple of them didn't want to come out of the pot easily. They are happy now and the main stem has more than doubled in size in the few days since transplant. Lots of new leaves everyday for the last few as well. They are starting to take off and are getting lots of love.

I hope your garden recovers well for you. Sounds like you son is not a green thumb. I've had the cupcake merlot and it's a good one. And the yellowtail is Australian right, not a big shiraz gut but I've had their cab and I think the red zin as well. They say a couple glasses of wine a day are good for you and I won't argue with that. Bud porn, bike porn, food porn, porn porn makes the world go around.

Bud porn

Bud porn

Greetings friends.
Since I'm covering these in another thread I've not posted much about them here. They are finishing up this week so I'm getting some nice pics of them (as nice as a 3 year old iPhone will take).
A-rockets (3)

Bud porn

Bud porn

FuelFilled


AVgas

really looking good,man!

im really diggin on the colors
those top ones look really nice and are taking on a nice fade!
/are you still feeding these or are you using just plain water at this point?
the ones at the bottom too!
i like the hints of purple in there
it looks like she is just starting to really swell up too!
/have you taken a closer look at the trichs?
how many days along is she
and i have to ask:do they smell like fuel?

@rhodehazard
the light is about 8-10" away
im thinking this mostly genetics man,but yea,she is really expressing indica traits!

/the plants in the background have a little more internodal space and are more sativa leaning strain

pop_rocks said:

really looking good,man!

im really diggin on the colors
those top ones look really nice and are taking on a nice fade!
/are you still feeding these or are you using just plain water at this point?
the ones at the bottom too!
i like the hints of purple in there
it looks like she is just starting to really swell up too!
/have you taken a closer look at the trichs?
how many days along is she
and i have to ask:do they smell like fuel?

@rhodehazard
the light is about 8-10" away
im thinking this mostly genetics man,but yea,she is really expressing indica traits!

/the plants in the background have a little more internodal space and are more sativa leaning strain

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Good morning pop_rocks.
Thanks! I'm calling the one in the first pic the Lombardi trophy because the cola is the size and shape of a football. Looks like the trophy is home in 2017 after all. Haha. I'm surprised that the one is getting that purple color because it's never seen temps below 67 deg. I had been under the impression that it's colder temps that bring out the colors. It's the only one of that strain that was a girl so not sure if they all are like that but I like it. My first purple bud I've grown.

So I've gone really light in nutes the whole grow and the ocean forest soil has been good to them. I flushed a week or so ago and they have been fading nice since then. They were on different watering schedules so some got fed a bit more than others. Just plain spring water the last week or so.

They have been swelling for a couple weeks now. Everything seems to happen so much faster with these autos. I've been watching the trichs for a couple weeks now. They are pretty much all cloudy with an odd amber to be seen if you look enough. They are almost exactly at 60 days today. They broke soil on about 12/16/16. Super fast cycle which these girls.

As far as scent they have a fruity floral smell in the tent. If you rub a bud you get some of that fuel smell. I haven't done much molesting of the plants so I'll have more info as to taste and smell after I harvest and dry them. I'm looking forward to sampling these buds and should get my chance in a few days.

The LW's are looking good and getting a lot of leaves going. I haven't had them out to get any pics lately but I soon will. I'm hoping to start seeing the males in the next week or so. I'll get an update on them done in a day or two when they get water.

i bet she will make a super bowl of smoke!
i really like how stout she is
looks great and really packing on the bud
about how tall is she?

i also like the use of the grate over the large pot you ahev the plants on!
that is an excelent idea and i will remember that as an easy way to flush your plants
/using a five gallon bucket and you can easily run several gallons of water through a potted plant without overflow
brilliant move,man!

I was just going to ask if they were autos after seeing the pictures based on the size but saw the post above that yupperdoodle, they were.

Looking nice.

Have you grown these before? At that size, its probably something I can sneak into my backyard and not have anybody notice at all.

Any smoke reports? I'm not into Sativas as I use the devils lettuce to help me sleep first and foremost. Those leaves look WLD more than NLD and I'm wondering how they hit?

As for the purps I'm wondering if you kept the temps the same I'm wondering if there's a significantly different taste to the smoke. I had some weed a few years ago that was very purple, and the best way to describe the smoke was it tasted like that old fashioned, "violet gum". I wasn't much of a fan of taste wise, and it wasn't very powerful, but man, was it relaxing. I remember sitting on the couch and having my legs feel like they left my body. This was right after the accident and was just a fantastic feeling. Almost nothing in the head. If I'm right, it was a really high CBD strain but there was no testing to know what it truly was.

Curious to know the punch it packs, especially after a few weeks in a mason jar.

pop_rocks said:

i bet she will make a super bowl of smoke!
i really like how stout she is
looks great and really packing on the bud
about how tall is she?

i also like the use of the grate over the large pot you ahev the plants on!
that is an excelent idea and i will remember that as an easy way to flush your plants
/using a five gallon bucket and you can easily run several gallons of water through a potted plant without overflow
brilliant move,man!

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Good morning pop_rocks.
Yep she is a good girl. Going to get a pic of her next to a football to show her off.
She is about 20" or so tall and like all buds. Buds all the way down to the dirt. Got great light penetration on these and with few leaves there is all good solid buds even at the bottom.

That grate is an old cooling rack for a cookie tray. It works well for flushing these smaller pots that I'm using for these plants. It's pretty thin so not sure if it would work for the bigger pots that I use for reg plants they are too heavy but something similar might be good. I have a 30 gallon tub that I use to use to fill with ice for beer kegs that would hold enough to flush a 5 or so gallon pot.

Are you getting any biking in? The weather here is still unseasonably warm and it has me thinking about taking a ride around the neighborhood. It's suppose to be in upper 50's this weekend. Frost is melting in the ground so way too muddy to do any riding or even hiking off road. Hope your week is going well...Fiddy.

Sunny FL Indica said:

I was just going to ask if they were autos after seeing the pictures based on the size but saw the post above that yupperdoodle, they were.

Looking nice.

Have you grown these before? At that size, its probably something I can sneak into my backyard and not have anybody notice at all.

Any smoke reports? I'm not into Sativas as I use the devils lettuce to help me sleep first and foremost. Those leaves look WLD more than NLD and I'm wondering how they hit?

As for the purps I'm wondering if you kept the temps the same I'm wondering if there's a significantly different taste to the smoke. I had some weed a few years ago that was very purple, and the best way to describe the smoke was it tasted like that old fashioned, "violet gum". I wasn't much of a fan of taste wise, and it wasn't very powerful, but man, was it relaxing. I remember sitting on the couch and having my legs feel like they left my body. This was right after the accident and was just a fantastic feeling. Almost nothing in the head. If I'm right, it was a really high CBD strain but there was no testing to know what it truly was.

Curious to know the punch it packs, especially after a few weeks in a mason jar.

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Good morning Sunny.
This is my first try of autos. I wanted to try them for a few reasons but their size and easy concealment was one of the top ones. Some of them stay under 18" in hight so they can easily be hidden by other plants. I wanted to do some in the yard but my wife doesn't want me to until the laws change.

I don't have any idea how they are going to smoke yet but I'll be putting up smoke reports as soon as I try them. I think I've read that autos are higher in CBD than most photos. I'm thinking it will be a fairly relaxing buzz but will have to wait and see. I'll let you know in a couple weeks.

Various purple buds have been around here once in a while and the ones I've had have had a lot of variance. Most have been average or below. The only one that stands out was a couple packs of purple goo that I had a few years back. It was a very Indica strain, I think a 100% if I remember. I know the purple color is an indica thing. I loved it but some of my friends did not. In fact most people either loved or hated it.

If you are interested in some seeds you can private message aridbud and he will email you a catalog. Check my "Fiddynut tries some autos" thread for more info.

i guess it looked sturdier in the picture
im sure a heavier rack would work
/i still thinks its a "grate" idea

no we have not been getting in much trail riding lately
we are having a lot of rain and most of our favorite spots are still kind of wet
we could have rode last week but i had family in town
/instead we spent the time haveing lots of family fun and eating way too much!
mrs chicky has been doing a lot of running lately but im sure we will be back on the bikes soon

a lot of varieties show colors naturally and purple is probably the most common one
cold temps can often bring out a veriety of colors in plants, but based on what fiddy said, im thinking this is more a genetic expression of color
a lot of the purple strains ive grown had that special "purple" taste
kind of a berry/grape flavor, those were some of mrs chickys favorites
while they were not the strongest strains, they had great bag appeal and were fun to smoke
/when you grow your own it dosent really matter if you need an extra toke or two to get where you wanted to go

at 20" that strain would be perfect for a stealth garden grow
if you live someplce where it would be cool, im sure you could pull it off
plant a variety of plants around it and be sure to break up any major sight lines
back yard grows can be some of the best

/i will also recommend shooting aridbud a PM

pop_rocks said:

i guess it looked sturdier in the picture
im sure a heavier rack would work
/i still thinks its a "grate" idea

no we have not been getting in much trail riding lately
we are having a lot of rain and most of our favorite spots are still kind of wet
we could have rode last week but i had family in town
/instead we spent the time haveing lots of family fun and eating way too much!
mrs chicky has been doing a lot of running lately but im sure we will be back on the bikes soon

a lot of varieties show colors naturally and purple is probably the most common one
cold temps can often bring out a veriety of colors in plants, but based on what fiddy said, im thinking this is more a genetic expression of color
a lot of the purple strains ive grown had that special "purple" taste
kind of a berry/grape flavor, those were some of mrs chickys favorites
while they were not the strongest strains, they had great bag appeal and were fun to smoke
/when you grow your own it dosent really matter if you need an extra toke or two to get where you wanted to go

at 20" that strain would be perfect for a stealth garden grow
if you live someplce where it would be cool, im sure you could pull it off
plant a variety of plants around it and be sure to break up any major sight lines
back yard grows can be some of the best

/i will also recommend shooting aridbud a PM

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Good morning pop_rocks.
I love it hahah "great idea". You have a great sense of humor and have found good ways to convey it in writing.

Yep way too muddy to ride around here too. Going to do some peddling around the neighborhood this weekend though. It's been nice dog walking weather here so Rufus is happy.

Food and family is what it's all about. I need to take a few pounds of winter fat off so I have to eat a little smarter and start getting some more exercise. The time of year for pigging out and watching football is over.

I agree that purple is a nice color for buds. I've herd that many purple varieties have a lavender scent. It defiantly seems like an indica thing. All the purple stuff has also been mellow buzz weed. Nice evening smoke for chilling. These autos seem to have a very floral fruity smell. One is just like old school juicy fruit gum. Kind of grape like as well. I'm with you that I'd rather smoke something tasty and take more puffs.

Not only do these stay short enough for a stealth grow but they don't smell obnoxious enough to draw any attention either. They are also very hardy and would lend themselves to gorilla grows. They finish on time and would not need much care. You could probably plant them and come back in 60 days and they would be done.

The weekend is almost here and it's looking like it's going to be almost 60 deg all weekend so I'm stoked to do some riding and some other outdoor activities. I hope all is going well...Fiddy.

Update and pics

Update and pics

Greetings friends.
The LW's are doing well and got their second watering since transplant last night. They have more than doubled in size since the pot up 8 days ago. They are growing like crazy and the roots have moved into the pot well. Some have an inch of root poking out of the bottom already. No males have shown themselves yet but I'm hoping that they start showing soon. A couple have really shown great vigor and are a good bit bigger than the rest. There are a couple of slower ones as well. Now I just have to be patient and watch them.

I've decided not to take cuttings of these plants this time around. I don't really have space to keep mothers and the humidity dome. Growing reg seeds means I need room in the veg tent to have at least 8 plants veging and that just doesn't leave for moms and clones. I will probably add a small tent and light just for clones and a couple moms in the next few months. For now I just want to keep the tents packed and get experience growing.

The new plan is to boot the males then top the girls once. After a couple days I will pot them into final pots and veg for a few more days then into the flower tent. If I get a really special plant I can try to reveg and then take cuttings.

Here are a couple shots of one of the average sized LW's from last night.

yeah a small clone area dosent have to be anything elaborate
a simple florescent bulb and a humidity dome is really all you need
it dosent even have to be a tent, you could just throw some tarp over a small table and attach the light underneath

it sounds like you have a good selection of seed tho so you could go either way
there are pros and cons to growing from seed v clones
im just glad you tried taking cuts and now know you can do it!

that wookie looks beautiful!
nice structure and fat leaves
if this is average, you are doing quite well, my friend!

i am a big fan of novelty when it comes to weed
give me the fun colors and interesting flavors any day
just like with food, i think we appreciate the weed with our eyes
im also a big fan of flavor
if it was strictly about getting knock out stoned, we would all be smoke hash anyways
/that or eating brownies
but i enjoy smoking it and appreciate the differences we can find

thats good to hear you and rufus have been getting out lately
60' sounds great!
some days you can totally smell spring in the air
im not going to complain too much about the rain,we sure need it
im just sorry its causing so many problems across the state

thanks for the compliment btw, i notice you express yourself very well in writing too
have you taken any classes or do you write down your thoughts often
heck, maybe you jsut are having fun banging on the keyboard!