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Doc thinks I may have a cannibis caused illness.

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SeaMaiden

Magiccannabus! If cola is ok, but coffee is not, what about the interaction of oxalic acids? I posted previously in this thread about my hyperparathyroidism that was caused by a tumor (which always leads to my husband's favorite quip--It's naht ah toomuh! Ahnold-stylee, except then I'd roll my eyes at him and say, "It's a fucking tumor!"), which in turn caused insanely high blood Ca levels, which in turn caused all sorts of problems, including kidney stones. I had to drop foods high in oxalic acid, and that's a LOT of foods!

Anyway, I was going back over the thread, saw you mention that and the oxalic acid thing popped into my head, thought I'd throw it out there.

I can no longer eat black pepper, it gives me a 'thing', and gallbladder issues run on the female lines of my family. Ugh.
I got poor photo copies of my blood tests but have made some progress in figuring out what's what.

Potassium has been measured twice, once @ 3.8 mmol/L and once at 4.2 mmol/L. Reference interval is 3.5 - 5.0, I am bang on in the middle, so much for potassium toxicity.

Guess my shitty organic weed is safe to smoke.
I'm going to guess that your blood Ca is also within normal parameters, or you'd have been radioisotopically imaged by now, methinks.

How's it going not smoking anything at all?
 

foaf

Well-known member
Veteran
someone taking 10x the common exposure of anything (medicine, food, environmental exposures), and having something with their health that is unanswered, it makes plenty of sense to put that medicine at the top of the suspicion list and to reduce the exposure and see if it helps. That said, if you reduce your smoking, and the problem goes away, it may simply be coincidence. Thats just my thoughts regarding the posts that dis the possibility of our favorite plant possibly being the culprit.

Good luck in your efforts to balance your effective dose of pot for pain, and trying to cut back in case it caused this syndrome. Being a long time sufferer of severe back pain, and using pot as the only medicine that was good for me, I know where you are coming from. That said, I eventually had surgery and my spinal fusion surgery fixed it. Surgery doesn't usually fix back pain, so I realize I'm lucky.
 

johnipedestran

1%
Veteran
wow so many thoughts on this issue....first it sounds like a bogus diagnosis, but in reality when I think back to days of my heaviest use, maybe I can see and understand how it is possible.
10-15 grams a day is a shitload of weed to be consuming. At my zenith level of smoking I was lucky to use 3.5 grams a day. this left me basically stupified for the day and would often result in me having to take a nap in the afternoon. this was also mexi import and not the top line product I use now. point is I can remember having some serious gastro issues at night when sleeping, many times waking up and feeling like I needed to do a bong hit. fwiw I been smoking daily now for over 20 years
your syndrome could be real, and hopefully you will have an easy time finding out that was the issue. if you come out of this clean and with no problems I would go back to the herb on a much much lower daily dosage.

what is really hard for me to reconcile is the fact that anytime I have gastro related issues cannabis is my first line defense. any nausea first shot for me is a bong hit and it really does have the power to keep you from puking. your nick is spot on I think I think you may have just overdone it. but brother indica also seems to be giving some solid diagnostic direction to follow.

peace
jip
 

NEW ENGLAND

Well-known member
ICMag Donor
Veteran
first I wish you all get well

second, Orange peels are said to be good treating nausea, just grab some and smell it, it should help.

peace :tiphat:

Ha Ha,
Thats what my doctor told me to do right after I told him I didnt have health insurance.:biggrin:
 

bigdaddyc9

Member
I get exact same symptoms but am on 480mg Oxycontin.I am a mess health wise due to this pain med.If I get cold I hurl and cannot even walk.I start sweating bullets.I soak all 3 pillows every night.I have a zipperd pillow cover and wash my pillowcases 24/7.My Specialist says I have an issue with "fight or flight " mechanism.Let us know what you find out but doubt that its from cannabis.I smoke at least an 1/8th of high test daily also..Peace BigD
 

brotherindica

Kronically Ill
Veteran
You thinking hyponatremia?


Although a good idea, electrolyte imbalances would be one of the first things checked. OTO never listed full lab values, but his K value was normal. Assuming the remainder of his labs were normal.




SeaMaiden brings up a great point about her hyperparathyroidism related to a tumor. An underlying issue causing an endocrine problem. Certainly isn't every case which presents w/tumor, but odd things do happen.
 

wantaknow

ruger 500
Veteran
georges diamonds and resin seeds catatonic are hi cbd plants try some of those and see if it does onset again then try og ghost train # 2 high thc very low cbd sativa should not trigger onset ,it sounds to me as extream anxiety ,which for me borders on some sort of precognition of somthing is a bout to go major wrong in my life ,like 911 ,okc bombing ,large tramatic episodes of onset usally for me is a tell tail sign just prior to large anxitey causing physicaal events ,that i attribute to heavy use of thc ,its my early warning system ,took me years to figure it out ,still dont understand how to use it ,or if its even possable ,it is very distubing to me ,the anxity is hard to deal with also ,but is a sure sign ,good luckmy friend ,btw ,do you ever notice that street lights somtimes go out when you pass by?if so pm ,please
 
F

Funion

Just thinking the drip was the factor with the rapid improvement at the hospital...
 
So have you given up smoking yet? If not you are just wasting all of our time.
You know what you have to do; eliminate or include smoking excessive amounts of pot as the cause of your symptoms; the only way to do this is stop immediately and monitor your wellbeing from then on.
If you are not prepared to do this then piss off and stop trawling for sympathy.
 

GP73LPC

Strain Collector/Seed Junkie/Landrace Accumulator/
Veteran
So have you given up smoking yet? If not you are just wasting all of our time.
You know what you have to do; eliminate or include smoking excessive amounts of pot as the cause of your symptoms; the only way to do this is stop immediately and monitor your wellbeing from then on.
If you are not prepared to do this then piss off and stop trawling for sympathy.


Damn man, that's harsh. WTF?
 
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SeaMaiden

He's not wasting anyone's time who isn't willing to give it. The comments were unnecessary.
 

GP73LPC

Strain Collector/Seed Junkie/Landrace Accumulator/
Veteran
Well sometimes you have to tell people. And sometimes you have to be harsh to hopefully get the message through.
I'm concerned about the guys welfare.

i think we all are concerned about his welfare.

i was referring to this part of the statement...

So have you given up smoking yet? If not you are just wasting all of our time.
You know what you have to do; eliminate or include smoking excessive amounts of pot as the cause of your symptoms; the only way to do this is stop immediately and monitor your wellbeing from then on.
If you are not prepared to do this then piss off and stop trawling for sympathy.
 

magiccannabus

Next Stop: Outer Space!
Veteran
Magiccannabus! If cola is ok, but coffee is not, what about the interaction of oxalic acids? I posted previously in this thread about my hyperparathyroidism that was caused by a tumor (which always leads to my husband's favorite quip--It's naht ah toomuh! Ahnold-stylee, except then I'd roll my eyes at him and say, "It's a fucking tumor!"), which in turn caused insanely high blood Ca levels, which in turn caused all sorts of problems, including kidney stones. I had to drop foods high in oxalic acid, and that's a LOT of foods!

I've never really researched oxalic acids. I've had low Ca levels I think, but I should double check that. Thanks for the info! I should hope it's not a toomuh!
 
Hey the guys got a problem, he needs to do something and solve it.
I'm not beating about the bush like some other people here, I'm just getting straight to the point.
He needs to stop smoking pot now to see if that's the cause of his symptoms.
There is no other option.
Maybe he doesn't want to stop smoking and he's hoping someone here will give him an excuse to keep smoking.
Out of everyone here I'm the one helping him the most.
If you care about his welfare then join me in ramming the message home that he must stop smoking pot NOW; there is no other option.
It's like if someones an alcoholic; you don't say, oh ok, try taking vitamin A, you tell them they must stop drinking.
 
S

SeaMaiden

I've never really researched oxalic acids. I've had low Ca levels I think, but I should double check that. Thanks for the info! I should hope it's not a toomuh!
Meh, even if it is, it's not that big a deal. Remember, mine caused insanely high blood Ca levels, which crashed post-op because my body's signaling chemistry was 'off'. Just something to consider.
Hey the guys got a problem, he needs to do something and solve it.
I'm not beating about the bush like some other people here, I'm just getting straight to the point.
He needs to stop smoking pot now to see if that's the cause of his symptoms.
There is no other option.
Maybe he doesn't want to stop smoking and he's hoping someone here will give him an excuse to keep smoking.
Out of everyone here I'm the one helping him the most.
If you care about his welfare then join me in ramming the message home that he must stop smoking pot NOW; there is no other option.
It's like if someones an alcoholic; you don't say, oh ok, try taking vitamin A, you tell them they must stop drinking.
Seriously? You've helped him the most? Have you not read what the guy has been saying, or what? He said he's already stopped smoking. What now? Beat him with another stick?

This is not the kind of person who's in need of this, clearly. It's obvious to me that he's got both hemispheres of his brain attached and functioning, he can READ, he understands what he reads, and is willing to take the action that MAY be necessary to find relief.

For Chrissakes, man.
 
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