Does ''Winterized'' always come out as ''Shatter"?

Old Gold said:

"Waxing" can happen from things other than high presence of lipids, fats, etc. A little moisture or the right amount of terp/solvent evaporation would also cause nucleation to start, and with the right agitation and heat, that nucleation turns cancerous and a vacuum will finish the job.

If you've got a lot of water content in there, winterization won't remove that. Alcohols and ketones are freely soluble in water -aka they mix really really well. I doubt Elicit Labs utilizes that to their advantage.

I've seen winterized slabs start waxing, and I bet you if I raised my temp some more, rolled it around a bunch, and pulled a vacuum, some nice crumble would come out.

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Digital Man said:

"Winterized" "Solvent Free" "The Clear" the current industry hard-on buzz words. In 6 months another set of buzz words triggering sales will evolve.

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Old Gold said:

I kind of agree, but "winterization" is pretty well descriptive. All you could ask for beyond that would be to know if it was winterized with single solvent during extraction, or with a secondarily introduced solvent, and what those solvents are. Full knowledge. But a "winterisation" is a patented process (I believe) for removal of fats and lipids via cooling of solvent.

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theJointedOne said:

As a non manufacturer of concentrate, I rely on both the legal medical and black markets to obtain quality extracts from time to time.

Through my research I've noticed the term 'winterized' used as a way to clean up waxes and other impurities out of bho.

Every picture I see online of winterized product, it seems to be in shatter state. However I recently came across a manufacturer named 'elicit labs' and they produce 'winterized wax'. Is this even possible? I thought the point of winterized bho was to remove waxes?

I've attempted to attach a picture of one of their products.

Thanks for the input

I asked the same exact question in post of my own a couple weeks ago. It seems to me to be an oxymoron . It's really more of slick marketing buzz wording really. Gray Wolf says it would be more accurately referred to as a hydrate. I follow them on instagram and they definitely have a unique product that looks bomb. Whatever you wanna call it, it does look straight fyah tho!

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theJointedOne said:

As a non manufacturer of concentrate, I rely on both the legal medical and black markets to obtain quality extracts from time to time.

Through my research I've noticed the term 'winterized' used as a way to clean up waxes and other impurities out of bho.

Every picture I see online of winterized product, it seems to be in shatter state. However I recently came across a manufacturer named 'elicit labs' and they produce 'winterized wax'. Is this even possible? I thought the point of winterized bho was to remove waxes?

I've attempted to attach a picture of one of their products.

Thanks for the input

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rusga said:

Words and more words. But real question: It will always shatter?

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Symbiotic AD said:

There are no absolutes in this world. It will not always shatter. It is still strain dependent, it can still auto-butter, no concentrate will always do anything.

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JasonX said:

…is perfect for making black hash by mixing a powder with it. Where do you get a powder? Dry out the extracted buds and sift them. With the resin gone, it will be much easier to sift. Or use your imagination, finely ground plant matter or whatever.

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JasonX said:

Wonder why they use ethanol when plant wax is far less soluble in acetone, which is also the least toxic solvent available, less than ethanol. You might have to distill it if you buy it at a hardware store, just to be safe, but then you should be distilling the ethanol first too, which firstly isn't even pure alcohol, being 95%. Acetone is one of the best solvents there is for precipitating waxes. I read a marijuana book which specifically said that to make the best oil you should extract with alcohol, dry it, redissolve it in warm acetone, cool it in the fridge or freezer and filter precipitated wax. If people have already extracted the resin with butane, it's just a matter of dissolving it in acetone instead of ethanol and the rest is the same.

BTW, acetone works much better as an extraction solvent than alcohol too. It produces a much better quality extract which is thicker, less green, never crystallizes and is perfect for making black hash by mixing a powder with it. Where do you get a powder? Dry out the extracted buds and sift them. With the resin gone, it will be much easier to sift. Or use your imagination, finely ground plant matter or whatever.

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