Vapedoutdude
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Just use an incubator
We need someone here to design a miniature logroll device so the principle can be tried on smaller amounts. Call me chicken but I'm not ready for ruining a pound of buds before I find the right tuning
logroller, you are coming across as a selfrighteous prick instead of a patient teacher
please, tone it down and try to teach us, not be a condescending hardhead
otherwise, get used to us randomly poking fun of you and getting under your skin for kicks, or worse, getting yet another of your accounts banned.
Tangwena posted this elsewhere and I came back to IC to take a look.
Log roller: I think you're doing great work and should be commended for stretching the boundaries of the curing process.
I feel sorry that you're being trolled.
The kind of response you're getting is why I don't visit forums like this anymore.
It reminds me of my 5 year old kid when I give him something new to eat and he says he doesn't like it even though he has no idea what it is or how great it can be. It's infantile.
getting under your skin for kicks
I tried a much easier method of putting my vac. sealed cobs in a dehydrator set at 115 degrees F. for about 3 hours and it got the cobs to sweat, which is the whole idea of this fermentation process. It's not nearly hot enough to decarb.
Boyd was talking about the look of the final product being a problem. My opinion is the marijuana community has placed way too much importance on superficial things. How does the bud look, how does it smell, how does it taste. All of those things are meaningless unless the experience of those pretty, sweet smelling and tasting buds is not deep. Not saying that those superficial priorities can't add to a good experience but in my mind they been elevated above the experience and to the detriment of the experience in many cases. There are a ton of strains that offer a pretty similar experience and honestly it ain't all that special or memorable after awhile, same old, same old.
I've been in many a dispensary listening to people judge pot on looks and smell, period. The pretty trimmed and pretty smelling is always rated as good and the stuff that has a little rough trim is considered bad. I guess when marijuana was turned into a business or an industry, we turned marijuana into just another product that had to look good on the display shelf.
I started practicing hatha yoga and meditation in the mid 70's and back then yoga was considered a spiritual pursuit. That is how it was used and taught, as it had been for centuries. After being in America for a few decades it has now become a thing for leotard wearing women to use to get a tight ass and perky tits. The meaning of the experience has been lost.
I feel the same way about marijuana. It used to be ALL about the experience. Nobody gave a shit what it looked like or smelled like. Now, many times, I see breeders describe their strains and all they talk about is the taste and smell. When I do smoke reports I'll mention taste and smells but only because people have now been conditioned to think that is important and they want to know but personally I could care less.
The thing I find most interesting about the cob method is that it is all about the EXPERIENCE. It is so refreshing to me because I feel like it is getting back to the whole point of marijuana and that is that it takes you to a new place. It's like travelling to a new country, a new city.
Boyd I think if you try the cob method and find it's something you enjoy, then you could give out small samples to people and let them try it. If they have a great experience with it, then they won't care about the looks. Unless of course they are totally superficial pot snobs; kind of like superficial wine snobs. If they are, then sell them your pretty buds that have a hint of cinnamon and coriander with a woody finish.
Honestly I find this whole marijuana industry, funny, pretentious, silly and tragic at the same time. The super marijuana stores that look like boutiques with their looking down their noses at, what they think, are the great unwashed and uneducated masses by such knowledgeable budtenders. Budtenders, it's all so silly and pretentious. Ever listen to "budtenders" talk? It's a comedy routine of wine snobbish pretention. In trying so hard to fit in and to become accepted by the mainstream, the marijuana community has become like the people marijuana smokers used to make fun of, the uptight, superficial assholes.
Marijuana used to be about the experience of getting HIGH. Now it's about the business of selling products that smell good, taste good and give you a narcotic, lazy stone bought on the recommendation of a BUDTENDER. Everytime I see that word I crack up. When you start saying that you are selling to CONSUMERS rather than to people, then you know that you been fully conditioned by the consumer culture. People are no longer human beings, they are things that consume products. Marijuana industry, you are almost there.
See, this statement (and the one below) are why I have an issue with your viewpoint on "quality." Mediocre quality cannabis is mostly the same, with very little differences. This is due to the full terpene and cannabinoid expression being handicapped, through the actions of the grower. Exceptionally grown cannabis is unique and a treasure, packed with scents and flavors which drastically change the effects of the cannabinoid profile. It's an explosion of sensations, not some coughing, hot, poor flavored inhale. When you experience it, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about. You'll look at what you're growing and say "If what I just smoked is cannabis, WTF have I been growing all these years??" (Yes, even when everyone around you already raves about your quality. You'll be personally disgusted with how poor it is. Caught me by complete surprise.)EvergreenState said:Boyd was talking about the look of the final product being a problem. My opinion is the marijuana community has placed way too much importance on superficial things. How does the bud look, how does it smell, how does it taste. All of those things are meaningless unless the experience of those pretty, sweet smelling and tasting buds is deep. Not saying that those superficial priorities can't add to a good experience but in my mind they been elevated above the experience and to the detriment of the experience in many cases. There are a ton of strains that offer a pretty similar experience and honestly it ain't all that special or memorable after awhile, same old, same old.
Very little quality in dispensaries. No disrespect at all, simply stating facts. Prohibition, poor grow designs, lack of awareness and more, are all working against commercial growers. Find me a dispensary which only sells cannabis grown without pesticides. I'll show you the beginnings of where to look for quality from a dispensary.EvergreenState said:[/FONT]I've been in many a dispensary listening to people judge pot on looks and smell, period. The pretty trimmed and pretty smelling is always rated as good and the stuff that has a little rough trim is considered bad. I guess when marijuana was turned into a business or an industry, we turned marijuana into just another product that had to look good on the display shelf.
This just tells me you haven't had really clean cannabis. It's about the high that really matters and it's the combination of cannabinoids and intensely complex terpene production/retention which creates the complex high. Poorly grown cannabis is hot, harsh and flat, with little distinction between strains. I can see how this method could make it better.Messing with it other drying it properly and popping it in a jar? I'll try it, but I feel like it's throwing beautiful flowers in the mud. *shrug* I have a harvest coming up in a few months. We'll see.
Just try it and maybe you will work out that it's the high that really matters, not looks or smell.