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Old 02-14-2019, 11:36 PM #1
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Marijuana Should Never Be Smoked ??

Marijuana Should Never Be Smoked ?? || Dr Aris Latham

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Old 02-15-2019, 12:49 AM #2
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Combustion causes lung asphyxiation for me. Some people think combustion is more potent than vaping and inhaling raw resin but i think they're experiencing the asphyxiation. Its not worth inhaling a smoke that is predominantly ash it does me no good the benefit does not outweigh the con.
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Currently I smoke but have a vape too. The high from smoking is a bit more potent and for me enjoyable. I smoke very little and do not have symptoms from it.

If you are hacking and short of breath then smoking is not ok, so just common sense I think. I am doing harm inhaling smoke I am sure but I hold the smoke in my mouth for a moment before inhaling so no hot air thing going on, that helps. With all the crud I inhale all day anyways I think no important damage is occurring after a couple tokes now and then.
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My lungs are for living.
Imo you get a way deeper experience eating cob or cookies.
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Sorry I don't know how to post links on mobile but a 24 year old guy in Texas I think it was died cause his vape exploded cutting his caratoid artery or something.in my opinion, constantly putting vapor or smoking in your lungs is bad.
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Deceiving looks, though i couldn't but notice it's from a doctor and i wouldn't trust those guys spontaneously, should i simply remind myself that the "War on Drugs" (launched by their self-serving politician friends) was possible only because of some bogus "expertise" in early days - for example as that of John Warnock, director of the Abbasiya mental institution in Cairo/Egypt from 1895 to 1923, which was the year Canada got its own national ban thanks to yet another "physician", Henri-Sévérin Béland.

The century after we can appreciate how François Legault came to promise raising the "legal" age to 21 yrs old, e.g. under political pressure from Québec' Psychiatric Association, the Collège des Médecins and my guess is "re-hab" therapi$ts (thinking of senator Jean Lapointe vs scientology "treatment") as well, etc...

Many of them have "elite" titles and yet they've proven absolutely socio-toxic after turning a non-issue into the predatory economy it has become, gradually, slow but steady!

So i was quick to cancel listening, after 3 ~ 4 seconds.

Truth is "medical" disciples are a natural enemy of "stoner$"/"droÿé$" (supposed to generate billion$ each year...) and now that it's "legal" we can't even rely on our own kind, which spells Cultural Genocide to me indeed.

So-called cannabis "abuse" (not marihuana, marijuana nor marahuana) ain't necessarily associated to self-poisoning toxic SMOKING which happens to be the worse possible consumption method, nonetheless politicians & friends love to perpetuate such confusion - not to mention paradoxal articles evoking a protective effect both in unborn feotus and smoker. IMO that's only confirming USA's VILIFYING 2-decades old patent, itself negating the "entourage" effect (as for THC working TOGETHER with other cannabinoïds).

In any case bigot anti-cannabic prohibitioni$ts are just too happy doing nothing to address the real problems with their respectively-adapted solution(s), while over-charging/over-taxing decent/honest consumers expected to pay with their health too, on top of serving as lab subjects to test pesticides in Justin's tumbled mari-caca, seasoned with cobalt-60 (radiation-sterilized...) insect poop and bodies, mold and whatnot! Euh...



Time to conclude, i need my refill...

Good day, have fun!!
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They're talking about marijuana, not cleanly grown cannabis. Since I figure <1% of the cannabis in the world is grown cleanly, I'm not surprised they have poor information on the subject.

Clean cannabis: cannabis grown in a way which leaves little to no residue of anything non-cannabis in it. (my definition)

When you smoke clean cannabis, there is no harshness, no 'burnt plant' flavor which starts strong and ends strongest. There is no heat on the throat and lungs and it's difficult to tell you've actually inhaled smoke. It's a massive intake of amazing aromas and delicious flavors.

Cannabis which is free of dust, pollen, insect bits/poop, hair, synthetic fibers, unconverted elements, excess plant material and non-cannabis chemicals, is truly amazing. When all I'm using is clean cannabis, doctors see how clear my lungs are and don't believe I smoke 24/7/365.

"Cannabis" is for asthma and other lung issues.

HUGE difference.
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Sorry I don't know how to post links on mobile but a 24 year old guy in Texas I think it was died cause his vape exploded cutting his caratoid artery or something.in my opinion, constantly putting vapor or smoking in your lungs is bad.
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When you smoke clean cannabis, there is no harshness, no 'burnt plant' flavor which starts strong and ends strongest. There is no heat on the throat and lungs and it's difficult to tell you've actually inhaled smoke. It's a massive intake of amazing aromas and delicious flavors.
Sorry but you can't breed or grow tar and carbon out of a plant. Its a taint to the vapor, in any amount. No matter how rich the bud, there's gonna be black tar in the bowl. Until you grow a single giant waterballoon trichome on a vine, this will remain true. Maybe Monsanto or GW is working on that?

All those contaminants you listed have nothing to do with the fundamental plant tars, contaminants are readily detected at vaporization temperatures while lung-coating tars are not. The yield of black tar that comes out of a 2 week iso soak of already extracted material is absolutely disgusting. I dont remember the numbers but my God, you could probably refine a lb of duff into a quart of diesel. When you blow a brown patch onto a paper towel after taking a drag, thats not the kind of sticky anyone wants, but it's unavoidable with combustion of raw plant matter.

Smoking flower is like growing lesser quality herb or rolling bad hitting joints on purpose. Why? We want the cleansing "Seafoam" power, adding any amount of engine sludge to the mix is detrimental. Burning off your membrane-cleansing solvents is also detrimental. Cannabis was always meant to be processed, to seperate plant material and it's tars from Cannabis metabolites.

I've seen smokers cough up black shit the first time vaping, preceeding utter confusion as to how high they got. If your herb is good in a joint, you'll be blown away by its pure form. I keep asking myself why people combust their prized herb. If someone thinks vaporizers are lacking in any way, they are not getting high off Cannabis isoprenes, but off of the same tar and carbon you could get from a tree leaf,no joke. Or their vaporizer is busted Chinese conduction junk. Its the 21st century, and people can do what they want to themselves, but there's really no reason to light unprocessed plants on fire, a trend which was only a result of black market circumstance in the first place. No one in Afghanistan was ever lighting plants on fire, not even the homeless. Cannabis is meant to be processed. Hash was not about potency, it was a carbon/tar reduction necessity when the herb was taken out of the censer and into the handpipe.


I'm surprised Cannabis cups allow archaic combustion as an evaluation of quality. They should be using the same standardized vape! No hiding behind wood smoke and unqualified judges who can't tell what the hell they are smoking (which is minimally 2/3 of the population according to the armpit study, where 1/3 reported detecting vanilla and 1/3 could not detect the sweat sample at all). Hopefully we never see hickory-smoked bud with grill marks on the market,but the alarming association with carbon smoke and a strains flavor/potency says it's likely to happen. I hear it all the time: "Some strains vape better, some smoke better". Nonsense. If bud doesn't vape good it's garbage. If you prefer any percentage of tar smoke to the flavor of untainted resin vapor, youre not qualified to judge Cannabis.

Been vaping over a decade. Dont have to make hash. Vape pens suck. Modern concentrates muddle the effect immensely. Cant get high off a pipe. Can get high off 0.03 in a vape. Bottom line, vaping herb is where it's at. If 'rosin tek' ever evolves (which would involve atmospheric pressure differential for a fuller extraction), only then would it mimic the quality of a convection vape output. I really question growers who don't vape or hash their product. You cant pull the oldschool card while on Instagram and using humidity sensing light controllers. Get a frickin vape. Every grower owes it to himself and to the plant. If something tastes bad, the vape will tell you what it is, plain as day. Why would any grower reject that opportunity?



Any seed seller who puts a bag blower on his table will soar in sales, letting people experience the full potential of the raw unprocessed herb, independent of the unavoidable tars of combustion.

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Sorry but you can't breed or grow tar and carbon out of a plant.
I know it's a very difficult concept to accept, the common and even "top shelf" offerings people call good cannabis are not clean. It is definitely possible to grow excellent quality cannabis on a minimalist plant structure. I call it trichome dense cannabis.
There is definitely plant tar and wax in the flowers, but not enough to cause lung function to decrease in the slightest. The only concern I would have is the ash, which is what the water bong is for.


Without awareness, there is no way to identify lacking in your quality.

Nearly 10 years ago I grew (what I thought was) excellent quality cannabis. I had never found better before, and everyone I met agreed. Living in So. Cal and producing better quality than anything I can find anywhere, street, grower, dispensary, you name it.

I was lucky enough to experience truly clean cannabis before I moved. It was only available for a short time. This cannabis made my "excellent" quality, and everything I'd seen for 20yrs before it, look like regs and worse. This was 10 years ago, and I've done the research to find out how to produce such quality.

The difference is truly amazing, and I'm trying to teach more people how.
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