if you look into dr carl hart.. he explains that feeling like you have no point in life.. or being depressed helps get u addicted.. the majority of heroin users are not addicted.. a majority of all drug users are not addicts..
also i believe that addiction is a habit.. and thats all . the only difference is the chemical.. we dont put a stigma around any other addictions people have.. only sex and drugs.. only things that cause pleasure.. and the only place that didnt want us to have any pleasure.. was CHURCH.. our laws are based on religion and bullshit.
habits are hard to break. doesnt matter what kind. i know dudes who cannot stop biting their nails no matter whaat.. its bene 15 years .. no1 puts them in rehab.. becaues it doesnt cost them money.. if the black market went under.. and the gov sold cheaper pure drugs.. drug addicts would be working hard like everyone else.. but when it costs more in drugs a day than u can make at work in a day.. no reason to work lol.
if you look into dr carl hart.. he explains that feeling like you have no point in life.. or being depressed helps get u addicted.. the majority of heroin users are not addicted.. a majority of all drug users are not addicts..
also i believe that addiction is a habit.. and thats all . the only difference is the chemical.. we dont put a stigma around any other addictions people have.. only sex and drugs.. only things that cause pleasure.. and the only place that didnt want us to have any pleasure.. was CHURCH.. our laws are based on religion and bullshit.
habits are hard to break. doesnt matter what kind. i know dudes who cannot stop biting their nails no matter whaat.. its bene 15 years .. no1 puts them in rehab.. becaues it doesnt cost them money.. if the black market went under.. and the gov sold cheaper pure drugs.. drug addicts would be working hard like everyone else.. but when it costs more in drugs a day than u can make at work in a day.. no reason to work lol.
Both work well together. Opiate kinda plateau out in the brain. Reach a point then stops. Cannabis has a way to bridge the gap where opiates plateau allowing both to work together to suppress pain with better success.
I know a lot of members here stress getting off the opiates all together and I understand and respect their opinion, but for those of us with severe enough pain levels to need them there is a place for them. Would I drop the opiates if I could? Yes in a heart beat, but the pain overrules that. It's up to the person who's trying to determine what quality of life they want to have and how they want to treat their pain issues to decide which route they want to go. Either or, or both. I'm lucky I just found a new doctor that totally understand the connection and allows use of both.
She was going to stop cold turkey and use tylenol.
My elderly mother has been on oxycodene for about a year, for extreme pain. She can not walk, and can barely stand to get to powered wheelchair. She was going to stop cold turkey and use tylenol.
I talked her into tapering. Can anyone suggest a schedule?? She was on 2 a day. Today she did 2 X 1/2's.
Great share buddy.
I gotta look into Iboga
Yea RSO is the bees knees.
For serious conditions, like chronic pain, you need really high doses, and not just smoking it - you have to eat it as well
Some days I do tap out and take a dilaudid, but then I dont get the relief that I hope for / expect. This causes me to want to take more but I know better so I pass out and smoke/eat as much as I can.
Opiates create addiction that you won't even be conscious of.
Also, opiates numb your body from releasing endorphines, steroids, and other goodies whenever you do get hurt. So, someone who takes opiate will feel more pain and for longer if he breaks his leg. They also keep your body from healing.
Cannabis and psychidelics for the win.
Annecdote,
The first couple times on mushrooms i got great pain relief for days. Then, bam, the next bunch (many) of trips were "bad" trips. Really, the fungi were making me confront my pain and learn to cope with it.
So I cant say enough for the efficacy of psychedelics for medicine.
My elderly mother has been on oxycodene for about a year, for extreme pain. She can not walk, and can barely stand to get to powered wheelchair. She was going to stop cold turkey and use tylenol.
I talked her into tapering. Can anyone suggest a schedule?? She was on 2 a day. Today she did 2 X 1/2's.
Hey, I think this is a great thread and this is something I've had a problem with recently.
Last year I had a somewhat bad motorcycle accident. By somewhat I mean I shattered my left tibia in 3 places. This required an implant of a metal rod inside my bone. As you can imagine this was a somewhat significant surgery and caused a serious amount of pain.
At that point in time i had access to pretty much as much weed as I wanted. Given my condition I turned a lot of that weed into vacuum purged BHO, well a friend did, as I really couldn't.
Unfortunately, I am also an ex-junkie and was also given a significant amount of Morphine sulphate (1.6g, in 20ml pills [@20mg each it was around 80 pills]) as well as a 3 months worth of tramadol. Thankfully the country I live in is very strict on their pain relief and unless you're dying you won't get anything more serious than straight morphine. For the first month and a half, the Morphine did more for physical pain relief than any other drug ever could. However, the oil helped my mental state in a way I could have never had on the pain killers alone. It helped me deal with and accept what happened to me.
The oil also helped with the side effects of the morphine, which I felt were almost as bad as the pain in my leg. If any of you have not been able to shit for two weeks you'll know what I mean. Plus not being able to eat was really hard on me. After a little I decided to quit the morphine, cold turkey, but at that point I was rather dependent on it so it sucked, I hope most of you never know this feeling.
In the end, I would definitely say it has a legitimate place in serious pain killing, but once the actual physical pain starts to dissipate, it's not something that should be continued and cannabis can assist majorly in this.
To this day I still experience pain in my leg, I have a titanium rod still nailed in there, yet if it ever gets too much a good toke takes care of it. I personally think cannabis should be an additive to these opiate therapies rather than an alternative. If anything it assists majorly in reducing the opiate withdrawal. However, the best thing I think it does is alleviate the sad ass mind space you get into when your holed up in a building with nothing to do, waiting to recover.