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Old 01-24-2017, 07:35 PM #31
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Sunny I really get to craving a good tomato about now every year. Last winter I put a grape tomato I n my flower room it took a while to narrow it down but the ak47 next to it smelled and tasted like old meat. Same cut five feet away was fine. I'm pretty sure it was the tomato as a companion. So if you plan to have both put some mint between them.
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Good to know. Haven't tried growing the two together yet as I'm still in that guerrilla growing stage and trying to learn more about moving things indoors soon (my guess is in 4 years Fla will go full rec) - so, well, relatively soon.

Harvested the last bunch of the mister stripey tomatoes this morning and took cuttings from the big producer and moved two smaller plants that I had kept in a shady part of the garden to the sunny so they start growing faster.

I need to work on instead of having 5 plants that come in at the same time with these tomatoes to dial back and have a run of 12 going, but with each generation started about 4 weeks after the previous one so that I have 3 in production at a time as I had so many come ripe lat week i had to trade away 10lbs of tomatoes that I couldn't use - though I was able to trade with a neighbor who raises chickens, so I got 10 dozen eggs out of the deal. Nothing like farm fresh eggs.

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I use 5 gallon pots for mine and that's a perfect size (at least for the mister stripey). If you want to got with a heavier producer (early girls) I'd go with a 7 gallon pot, especially if you're having watering issues. I use the pots instead of the ground since it allows me to move them onto the porch if I need to. With the tornado that hit central florida a few days ago I was able to pick them up and move them onto my back porch which is protected from the wind, and when the hurricane blew through here in October i moved them inside the house before taking off for safer ground. If I end up getting a frost (none yet this year), I can easily bring them onto the porch as well.

Keeping them wet enough, even in 100+ temps, is doable, though I'm at 100% humidity when I get to 100 where you're probably at 2% humidity. Anywho - when the doge goes for her last run of the night they get watered, then they get watered again at the 10:00am doge play time. On your end you could try a 7am watering and a 5pm watering, or you can always do the old tobacco trick and put up a sunshade over the pots to keep the heat of the day off them. They'll get enough ambient light, and the amount of sun in your neck of the woods is going to make them so much sweeter than anything store bought.

There's also some tomatoes which are very, very heat tolerant. On my end I'm down to the mister stripey and every once in a while I throw a black cherry in, but just like weed, the perfect variety is out there for you.

I've got the stripey's dialed in but this works for most tomatoes.

**4 gallons generic potting soil from home depot, 1/2 gallon of perlite and 1/2 gallon earth worth castings. I run the dirt for 3 or 4 grows before I change out.

**Fertilizer during growth with 2 teaspoons of miracle grow in 3 gallons of water every other day, then water til soil thoroughly soaked.

**I also make sure I clear out the old, dead undergrowth. As soon as the leaves on the lower end of the plants start turning yellow or spot up, they're pruned off.

**Water on the off fertilizer days. When it's really hot in the summer, then water 2x a day.
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Good to know. Haven't tried growing the two together yet as I'm still in that guerrilla growing stage and trying to learn more about moving things indoors soon (my guess is in 4 years Fla will go full rec) - so, well, relatively soon.

Harvested the last bunch of the mister stripey tomatoes this morning and took cuttings from the big producer and moved two smaller plants that I had kept in a shady part of the garden to the sunny so they start growing faster.

I need to work on instead of having 5 plants that come in at the same time with these tomatoes to dial back and have a run of 12 going, but with each generation started about 4 weeks after the previous one so that I have 3 in production at a time as I had so many come ripe lat week i had to trade away 10lbs of tomatoes that I couldn't use - though I was able to trade with a neighbor who raises chickens, so I got 10 dozen eggs out of the deal. Nothing like farm fresh eggs.

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I use 5 gallon pots for mine and that's a perfect size (at least for the mister stripey). If you want to got with a heavier producer (early girls) I'd go with a 7 gallon pot, especially if you're having watering issues. I use the pots instead of the ground since it allows me to move them onto the porch if I need to. With the tornado that hit central florida a few days ago I was able to pick them up and move them onto my back porch which is protected from the wind, and when the hurricane blew through here in October i moved them inside the house before taking off for safer ground. If I end up getting a frost (none yet this year), I can easily bring them onto the porch as well.

Keeping them wet enough, even in 100+ temps, is doable, though I'm at 100% humidity when I get to 100 where you're probably at 2% humidity. Anywho - when the doge goes for her last run of the night they get watered, then they get watered again at the 10:00am doge play time. On your end you could try a 7am watering and a 5pm watering, or you can always do the old tobacco trick and put up a sunshade over the pots to keep the heat of the day off them. They'll get enough ambient light, and the amount of sun in your neck of the woods is going to make them so much sweeter than anything store bought.

There's also some tomatoes which are very, very heat tolerant. On my end I'm down to the mister stripey and every once in a while I throw a black cherry in, but just like weed, the perfect variety is out there for you.

I've got the stripey's dialed in but this works for most tomatoes.

**4 gallons generic potting soil from home depot, 1/2 gallon of perlite and 1/2 gallon earth worth castings. I run the dirt for 3 or 4 grows before I change out.

**Fertilizer during growth with 2 teaspoons of miracle grow in 3 gallons of water every other day, then water til soil thoroughly soaked.

**I also make sure I clear out the old, dead undergrowth. As soon as the leaves on the lower end of the plants start turning yellow or spot up, they're pruned off.

**Water on the off fertilizer days. When it's really hot in the summer, then water 2x a day.
Good afternoon Sunny.
Thanks for the tomato tips. I think that if I put the effort into tomatoes that I put into my ganja I'd probably do ok. I haven't done much research and the few try's I've made have been kind of half assed. Sounds like I need bigger pots and I've under fed them badly. Maybe a pot with some type of water reservoir and a wick or something but if a little shade will work than that might be a good option. It is often humid in the summer but the 3-4 gallon pots I've used in the past will dry out while I'm at work even if I water right before I go. I like your idea to keep them in pots so that they can be moved when weather comes through. I've found my plants tipped over and laying on the ground a few times last year. Lots of things to stress them. I do love a good tomato and we only get them for a few weeks up here. All the greenhouse stuff at the store tastes like cardboard. I think I'll have another go at them next summer. Damn now I'm craving a bacon lettuce and tomato sandwich. Thanks again for the tips. I'll do some looking into heat resistant varieties to try come summer.
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Glad to have you. We love our plants and I'm hoping this will be a good show. We also like to talk dogs, food or whatever is on our minds. I hope you and your plants are happy and healthy...Fiddy
Thanks for having me! I also love my plants and dog-and cats too! Yes thanks we're doing pretty good!

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Old 01-25-2017, 06:37 PM #34
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Thanks for having me! I also love my plants and dog-and cats too! Yes thanks we're doing pretty good!

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Looking through your grow journals it's clear you give your plants plenty of love. Really some beautiful examples of some great genetics. My goal is to grow some frost monsters like that someday....Fiddy.
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Greetings friends.
We are well into the "watching paint dry" phase of the seedlings. All 8 are doing well and are pretty close to one another size wise. They all came up within 12 hours of each other so it will be easy to see if any are quick growers or if I have any weaklings. I think the roots are doing well since they needed water only 3 days from their last watering. I gave them a little kelp solution with the water this time as well. I'm really looking forward to these plants getting a few leaves so they can take off and really start growing. Here are a couple pics as of this morning.


Not a whole lot of action to speak of but in a couple weeks these baby's will be a lot more fun to watch and talk about. Thanks for stoping by to have a look at this grow....Fiddy.
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Good to see all 8 have popped.

The mister stripey cuttings I took on the 24th have already started popping roots.

Looking forward to Sunday - making a trip to one of my grows a few hours south of here to check on my other baby's. I was going to wait another 2 weeks as I like to leave mother nature alone (I planted on the solstice and was planning on letting them go 7 or 8 weeks), but the more I've thought of it the more worried I am about the storms that came through here last weekend. I need to see if I've been washed out or not. As it is I'm used to harvesting about 1 of 4 plants anyways, and I really don't need much except for my own occasional use since I've got the vape pen I use most of the time, but I have no desire to go out buying schwag so if I'd rather fix things up if there's been a problem now then wait. I just hate going out at all until things are ready - always worried about showing up at any of my grows but I'm a bit paranoid like that.
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Good to see all 8 have popped.

The mister stripey cuttings I took on the 24th have already started popping roots.

Looking forward to Sunday - making a trip to one of my grows a few hours south of here to check on my other baby's. I was going to wait another 2 weeks as I like to leave mother nature alone (I planted on the solstice and was planning on letting them go 7 or 8 weeks), but the more I've thought of it the more worried I am about the storms that came through here last weekend. I need to see if I've been washed out or not. As it is I'm used to harvesting about 1 of 4 plants anyways, and I really don't need much except for my own occasional use since I've got the vape pen I use most of the time, but I have no desire to go out buying schwag so if I'd rather fix things up if there's been a problem now then wait. I just hate going out at all until things are ready - always worried about showing up at any of my grows but I'm a bit paranoid like that.
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Great news on the mr stripey. Popping roots after only a couple days is crazy, I wish ganja plants rooted that quick. Is that normal for tomatoes? I've only tried with cannabis and used rapid rooter plugs, rooting gel, and humidity dome. Is the process similar for tomatoes?

That must be kind of cool to have plants out there and just trust that Mother Nature is taking care of them for you. It would make me nervous as well to not be able to check on them daily. How do you keep them from being eaten by rabbits or other little animals? I'm thinking about doing some guerrilla grows with some auto flower plants this summer and need to read up on how to give my plants the best chance. I would need to protect them from animals and also need to water them if we get an extended dry spell. Maybe a little chicken wire cage when they are young and venerable. There are lots of parks and wide open lightly wooded areas close to me that I could hide a few plants in. I think the most intimidating part for me would be getting the harvest out of the park and home without being seen or questioned. I'm pretty sure that even if someone saw me going to the plants to water them I could say they weren't mine and I was just out for a hike and had water with me for consumption.

I'd think 1 out of 4 plants is a really nice return for a grow where you don't have a lot of hands on time with. Just plant a bunch of them and hope for the best. I suppose that putting plants in various separate locations is the way to go.

I hope your girls survived the storms and are thriving. Be carful when you check on them and if anyone shows up just deny everything is all you can do. Good luck and let us know how it went..Fiddy.
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Thanks for the tomato tips. I think that if I put the effort into tomatoes that I put into my ganja I'd probably do ok. I haven't done much research and the few try's I've made have been kind of half assed. Sounds like I need bigger pots and I've under fed them badly. Maybe a pot with some type of water reservoir and a wick or something but if a little shade will work than that might be a good option. It is often humid in the summer but the 3-4 gallon pots I've used in the past will dry out while I'm at work even if I water right before I go. I like your idea to keep them in pots so that they can be moved when weather comes through. I've found my plants tipped over and laying on the ground a few times last year. Lots of things to stress them. I do love a good tomato and we only get them for a few weeks up here. All the greenhouse stuff at the store tastes like cardboard. I think I'll have another go at them next summer. Damn now I'm craving a bacon lettuce and tomato sandwich. Thanks again for the tips. I'll do some looking into heat resistant varieties to try come summer.
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I have good luck with 30 gal tubs outdoors. about ten dollars at the depot. I put two 4inch sewer t connectors in the bottom of one tub and set another tub on top of the t's cut a hole in the middle of the top tub the size of a 6 inch net pot. pack the pot with rock wool and fill with soil. the bottom tub holds about four gallons of water i throw an air stone in the bottom to keep it sweet but outdoors you might not need to if it drys out some. I leave them for a week without worry.
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