Smoking weed while pregnant?

[paper thorn]

I think medman was possibly thinking of the fact you lower your oxygen content in your blood levels temporarily when ever you inhale burning matter...?....
- A friend of a friends baby was born with cancerous brain tumors. Try as they may, the docs couldn't save it. Her obgyn told her had she not stopped smoking pot, the thc could have prevented this, or at least slowed it down so the baby could have been saved.
- My bff smoked through both her pregnancies. Both boys were straight A students, & way less hyper than most kids were. Now they're college students, still carrying that perfect gpa! Smoking relieves morning sickness. I'm now 60. Seen most of my friends smoke while pregnant, & I have to say, I've not seen any adverse effects from it, only positive ones.
- BTW, I don't have a uterus either...... they took it out just after my 24th BD. I'm what's known as a des daughter. (Diethelstillbestrol) . Its a drug that was given to pregnant women to prevent miscarriages (which it didn't), but what it DID do was cause a strange deformity in the female off spring... T- shapped uterus.

Sorry to hear that cat. At least your mom didn't inhale smoke while pregnant though huh?
There's something different about cannabis smoke that seems to not lead to tobacco smoke related diseases like cancer, heart disease etc. Some doctors think that it's partly in the way pot is inhaled.

Anyway, I couldn't force myself to read the whole spittin contest pages, so I may be passing on previously posted info. No need to argue about studies and such. Granny Stormcrow has already done all the research and gathered all of the studies on this subject and many other medical issues. Check her list. It's somewhere around here. maybe in the med forum stickies?

 

[Raw_Dog]

I haven't read through all the post but I will give my .02cents on the subject. I know for a fact, smoking mj has no negative/ill effects on a baby during pregnancy. It seems as though, since we have categorized marijuana as a drug then it surely has to have an opposite reaction to the body when ingested or smoked. Well, I have witnessed on several occasions with different women who smoked during pregnancy. No deformities were found or have ever been found behind smoking MJ. As a matter of fact, the children I have witnessed are a lot brighter than most of their non smoking parents peers. Most tend to do better in school because of their ability to concentrate on subjects without the ill effects of bad foods that make children aimlessly out of control and suffer from attention disorders. I have also witnessed children who take milk from their MJ smoking mothers that learn at a higher pace than children of the same age whose parents didn't endorse marijuana in the household. I feel a lot of you just smoke to get high, but herbs, fruit and greens have a medicinal value. All foods are some form or another considered medicine. Medicine doesn't always mean a pill or powdery substance. Marijuana can be extremely beneficial IF you know how to use it and be responsible with it. Everyone take a moment and research the term ROSALES, there you will find other directly related fruits of the same caliber. Salute.

-Southside.

 

[Raw_Dog]

Let me correct my statement, marijuana has no I'll effects on those using a TRULY ORGANIC product. Smoking plant growth regulators will directly effect the body. Energy doesn't die, it only needs rebooting or recharging so pgrs do not leave the herb but transfer to the body. It will do what it is suppose to do, if those effects are to cause cancer or glaucoma or what have you, things ingested in the body will serve its purpose. So, the answer to this thread actually depends on the product being sampled.

 

[UneeK]

I think there is compelling scientific evidence that marijuana effects brain development. Brain development starts in the first trimester and doesn't finish until the early to mid 20s. When it comes to my childrens health I am risk averse so in this case common sense tells me to be on the safe side and try to limit any axposure before the brain is done developing.

 

[Team Microbe]

In my opinion, ingesting CBD's during pregnancy would only benefit the baby.

BUT, even if one were to find a high CBD strain like ACDC where you'll get a 25:1 ratio of CBD:THC you're still ingesting THC, and that is not recommended.




p.s. Did you know that there are cannabinoids in breast milk?? This is why it is imperative that babies are breast fed, it improves cognitive functioning and boosts the child's immune system like nature intended it to. Fun fact of the day lol

 

[meowcovich]

1st of all - it is up to the woman, not anyone else
2nd - She should vape not smoke regardless of the baby
3rd - stay away from anything made with solvents while prego
4th - learn some self control and have some dignity
5th - repeat.

 

[meowcovich]

In my opinion, ingesting CBD's during pregnancy would only benefit the baby.

BUT, even if one were to find a high CBD strain like ACDC where you'll get a 25:1 ratio of CBD:THC you're still ingesting THC, and that is not recommended.




p.s. Did you know that there are cannabinoids in breast milk?? This is why it is imperative that babies are breast fed, it improves cognitive functioning and boosts the child's immune system like nature intended it to. Fun fact of the day lol

Also, the highest amount of cannabinoids found naturally in the human body is during birth. The woman giving birth has abnormally high amounts of cannabinoids being released in the brain, which is thought to help reduce pain and to also "forget" the pain. Pretty sweet...

 

[psyke]

It took a two second Google Scholar search and 15 minutes of reading to know, that there is a lot of literature linking cannabis consume in the pregnancy to cognitive deficits in the offspring. ADHD, memory deficits, attention lapses - you name it. Start with this one, cannabis consume alone is also covered:

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0149763405000953

 

[EclipseFour20]

Some science to ponder--

"Distribution to Fetus and Breast Milk
In animal and man Δ9-THC rapidly crosses the placenta (Blackard and
Tennes 1984). The course of THC levels in fetal blood fairly coincides
with that in the maternal blood, though fetal plasma concentrations were
found to be lower compared to the maternal level in rats (Hutchings et al.
1989), sheep (Abrams et al. 1985-1986), dogs (Martin et al. 1977), and
monkeys (Bailey et al. 1987). The metabolites 11-OH-THC and
THC-COOH cross the placenta much less efficiently than THC (Bailey et
al. 1987, Martin et al. 1977).
Following oral intake, THC plasma concentrations in the fetus seem to
be much lower, about one tenth of the maternal plasma concentration
(Hutchings et al. 1989), compared to intravenous and inhalation THC intake,
with about one third of the maternal plasma concentration (Martin et
al. 1977, Abrams et al. 1985-1986), reflecting differences in metabolism.
In humans, THC in cord blood was found to be 3 to 6 times lower than
concentrations in maternal blood (Blackard and Tennes, 1984). Thus, oral
intake may be less toxic for the fetus compared to inhalation. Additionally,
there seems to be a considerable variation in fetal exposure to
maternal THC in dependency of placenta function. In a twin study with six
dizygotic pairs (where each of the twins has an individual placenta) there
were large differences between the pairs in cannabinoid concentrations in
hair and meconium (Boskovic et al. 2001). Given that twins are theoretically
exposed to similar maternal drug levels, these findings suggest that
the placenta may have a major role in modulating the amounts of THC
reaching the fetus. The ratio of concentrations in maternal and fetal
plasma was maintained with multiple administrations (Martin et al. 1977,
Hutchings et al. 1989), indicating that the maternal plasma THC and not
the fetal tissue is the actual source for the fetal plasma THC.
THC passes into the breast milk. In monkeys 0.2% of the THC ingested
by the mother appeared in the milk (Chao et al. 1976). Chronic adminis-
tration leads to accumulation (Perez-Reyes and Wall 1982a). In a human
female the THC concentration in milk was 8.4 times higher than in plasma
(Perez-Reyes and Wall 1982a). Thus, the nursing infant might ingest daily
THC amounts in the range of about 0.01-0.1 mg from the milk of her
mother who is consuming 1-2 cannabis cigarettes a day, assuming an average
daily ingestion of 700 ml milk."


Source: Paper titled, "Clinical Pharmacokinetics of Cannabinoids" www.cannabis-med.org/data/pdf/2003-01-1.pdf

I guess if your goal is to administer THC to your baby, then it is possible....but smoking cannabis seems to be the worst (about 1/3 of the mother's plasma concentration)--whereas "oral intake is less toxic for the fetus compared to inhalation" (about 1/10 of the mother's plasma concentration). Vaping, smoking--all the same; not so with edibles. And...the "caution period" is just not during "pregnancy" but appears to extend through the "lactating period" as well.

Not a baby expert...but I have a close friend (due end around turkey day) and she told me more than I ever wanted to know about babies and ganja. LOL. You can thank her for this tidbit of science.

 

[Former Guest]

you could argue this either way really. I found a study saying the same stuff with more detail that is coming out of Canada. the one psycke has is from the Netherlands; both are places with more acceptance so women admitting to using cannabis while being pregnant is far more likely to have accurate info because women in the US fear having their babies taken away; even if the study is anonymous. this study said that heavy usage and one joint per day or more has shown results starting at 3-4 years old and there is a timeline with age of kids and usage of mother which I found kinda confusing on what heavy usage was and where the cut off of one joint, two joints, three joints... but when you get to the end of the study at the bottom of the page, not the report, there is where the study got it's funding from. I think a lot of this should be taken into consideration when looking at a cannabis study critically. many pharm companies, religious orgs, etc fund studies to use in their mission to further their rage against the healing properties of cannabis.

also, not every women who smokes a cig or has a drink of wine, has this happen. the risk is much lower than they would like you to think albeit significant to consider and make an informed choice. Most women find out about 6 weeks into the pregnancy as well and in that time frame, most women will partake as they think they're not pregnant so most kids are exposed to alcohol and cigs, as well as cannabis from the get go. for a loooong time women have done this, these problems have only been brought up the past few decades, like ADHD for example.

I've known a few kids whose mothers had partaken and I really can't tell the difference. I frankly feel if she wants to take a few hits or smoke a bowl to feel better, then that's her choice. the morning part is over quickly and so, after that it should be a personal decision between the father and mother.

http://www.ccsa.ca/Resource%20Library/ccsa0117832009_e.pdf

 

[EclipseFour20]

Good call lady--everyone is different.

The author of that paper is--Franjo Grotenhermen, MD, is affiliated with nova-Institut, Goldenbergstraβe 2, D-50354 Hürth, Germany (E-mail: franjo.grotenhermen@nova-institut.de)...published in Journal of Cannabis Therapeutics, Vol. 3(1) 2003.

So if it were to be biased, I would expect it would be more "cannabis friendly" if anything...not funded by Mad Mothers Against __________...LOL!

 

[Former Guest]

well they say that the baby can feel the emotions of the mother so as it was explained to me, "if I go without pot for 9 months, I will throat punch someone."

 

[EclipseFour20]

LOL...read the last line in my sig Lady....LOL.

 

[fulltimehuman]

Three boys, three cannabis 'supported' pregnancies. I can not keep up with these boys.
My wife COULD NOT EAT during the third pregnancy and by six months pregnant looked
like she was working out everyday. So, she was able to eat enough to keep alive and grow the baby into the firecracker he is today. My kids are strong, healthy, smart and happy.
We had all our kids at home to ensure our domestic authority in all aspects of the process
and would't have it any other way.

 

[sourpuss]

My wife smoke during the first trimester up till the point she was sure she was prego. Kids r smart and healthy and strong. I dont condone it but not really in a position to tell anyone not to smoke pot. On her own she stopped .

Feel the benfits are many, mental medicine for sure. Happy moms make healthy babies so its kinda a give and take and keep it in moderation....

 

[shroomologist]

As most here have already said, NOTHING is best while prego, although I personally know numerous people who have smoked Cannabis/Marijuana while pregnant, and had absolutely zero problems/complications with their pregnancy.

As with virtually anything, moderation is the key here. I definitely wouldn't recommend smoking like Bob Marley while pregnant, but smoking a little here and there, shouldn't hurt a thing.

I hope this helps

 

[dread]

my misses smoked during pregnancy
now i have two responsible grownups (20 & 21 y old)
and also responsible blowers....
its all about education i guess...
grtz
D

 

[stihgnobevoli]

i know a buncha kids who were born to moms who smoke. all little baby geniuses. something special about em from regular kids. can't really quantify it. but anyway i know of a couple doctors who said it's cool the weeds not gonna harm the baby. women been smoking (consuming) weed while pregnant for eons before "doctors" came along. i'm sure if there was an issue it would have been found long ago.

 

[Kozmo]

Just don't flippn do that.

 

[jd4083]

Looking back on this thread I'm seeing an awful lot of examples of why the general public doesn't take cannabis activists seriously, and for good reason.