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thes new led's is out scaling the hps and mh with a prety big deal

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newtothiscoco

Sunlight SL-400 LED Grow Light new crazy led's that came out for growing and they out scale all the lights in over 130,000LUX 2ft from light, to say it mild this is the strongest light i have seen out there :comfort:

what do you guys think ?
is it worth a try ?
:tiphat:
 
This LED looks promising, but it seems very heavy.

I'll bet its pricey too, but with that spectrum/color/wavelength it produces --- I am very interested--this is the color spectrum that contains all the colors we need to grow the best product.

Looks like my house on a bright cloudy day---PERFECT--plants LOVE LOVE LOVE that full spectrum white light

Thanks -newtothiscoco
 
the light looks good, but there isnt any par #'s and they have not responded to emails so for me thats a big -mark for customer service imo, if i get to see them next month i will see how they are in person might pick one up if it goes well.

im curious as to what the footprint they can do as that 68deg lens is going to tighten up that spread @ what loss of footprint?

if u guys know any of that post it or try an get ahold of em here http://sunlightledgrow.com/contact-sunlight/ if u do get ahold of them let us know any info you get.
 

DrFever

Active member
Veteran
I would probably stay away from this

▪ Lumens are an imperfect measurement of the perceived intensity of light sources,
with known shortcomings. The specific spectral properties of LED light sources
exaggerate these shortcomings, especially toward the blue end of the spectrum.
▪ Conventional lighting fixture manufacturers often report total lamp lumens
more prominently than or instead of total fixture lumens. Because many LED
lighting fixtures do away with the distinction between lamp and luminaire, only
total fixture lumens can serve as a basis for valid comparisons between LED and
conventional lighting fixtures.
▪ LED lighting fixtures and conventional lighting fixtures are tested differently
 

Snook

Still Learning
Veteran
Sunlight SL-400 LED Grow Light new crazy led's that came out for growing and they out scale all the lights in over 130,000LUX 2ft from light, to say it mild this is the strongest light i have seen out there :comfort:

what do you guys think ?
is it worth a try ?
:tiphat:

have you grown any cannabis yourself with them? or are ya trollin'?
 

MmjBudClown

New member
Hey guys, first post on the forums. I'm currently growing in an all LED setup, and am about to go into flower here in the next few weeks. Anyway, before I flip the light to flower I wanted to add more light to have throughout the flowering phase. I had narrowed the choices down to the Lumigrow Pro 650, or the Advanced Diamond Series XmL 330. Then I came across this light the SL-400. Just what recommendation there might be. Can only buy one of the three choices. Thanks.
 

MmjBudClown

New member
Current setup, Advanced platinum series 360w power draw (borrowed from a friend exact model unknown), and 2x G8LED 90w all red UFO (80w power draw each). 4' x 4' x 6' 11" Gorilla Grow Tent, 4" inline fan 165 CFM into HEPA filter intake, 16" x 6" Phresh filter pulled through a 6" inline fan 440 CFM with speed control set near around 200 CFM to scrub my outtake air. This is my first grow, I'm a legal medical grower in the state of Colorado, where it's technically legal for anyone to grow. I'm currently running coco coir and perlite about a 60/40 blend. Nutrients are of a powder chemical variety also gifted to me by a grower friend, they are in ziplock baggies labeled A, B, and C, and came with hand written mixing instructions and ratios. I will probably be changing to VegaMatrix soon. Growing 5x Blueberry x Cinderella 99, and a Pussy Kush a Cat Piss x Bubba Kush cross also a bag seed.
 

vostok

Active member
Veteran
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Link: http://sunlightledgrow.com/our-grow-lights/
 

MmjBudClown

New member
Yeah, that's the one. I've only seen a few videos on youtube but it hasn't been out long enough to see any real results, and I've seen no cannabis grows with this lamp.
 

MmjBudClown

New member
Yeah, I'm aware, my price range is $900-$1400. My intent is not to compete with HID, but to see just what is possible with current LED tech. The Lumigrow would put me in at 1000w+ of actual power draw, not equivalents.
 
I have been running a led grow for a few years now. Initially, led was rejected in the US market because all the cheap one watt one spectrum Chinese assemblies hit and proved to be quite disappointing. These lights as well as the early UFO 90watt lights were quite useful for veg. uses such as clones and seedlings, but not so for flowering applications.
Thus, LEDs were quickly rejected by experienced/knowledgeable growers in favor of traditional mh/hps set-ups.
But for some, LEDs were just too attractive to simply walk away from. The promise of greatly reduced heat output and less costly electric bills just kept calling me back. I also stuck with my then state-of-the-art 90watt UFO's, and began to gain knowledge and experience.
To my surprise I was able to get some fine finished buds of Himalayan Gold which I'd been growing from Greenhouse Seeds stock. Now, I won't claim these buds equalled ones grown under a 1000watt lamp, but they were more than decent. And this was achieved using 4 90watt units in series. With one watt diode. BUT they were multi-spectrum units. In 2010 this meant 6 spectrums.
Thereafter I moved into the advanced led line, purchasing their diamond series 880watt 11 spectrum unit. I set it up as per directions and independent study. Such a powerful light has to be about 20-30 inches distant from the plants, or they will experience a sort of light bleaching effect. Also, some buds can become "burned", which upon magnified examination, presents clearly as " unnatural bursts" of many pistils cramming in & out where the light is too close and intense. So, clearly, I was dealing with a far more powerful yet subtle light source than I had ever used indoors. And in thirty-plus years of indoor growing, that is a lot of systems!
In any event, current LED technology has arrived. There are several great companies out there, and the smaller 200-400 watt units are what I use in 3x3 spaces. The canopy penetration is excellent with all my units, and even the 300watt has to be at least 8-12 inches distant from the plants to avoid too much brightness.
Yes, the LED lights are a considerable investment, and no one should feel they're a must have. Traditional lighting of all kinds work great in thousands of situations. And I personally think CFLs are still the best, most economic means of just growing plants. They are cheap, easily available, And get the job done in veg.
But 4 years into my LED explorations, I will never use traditional lighting again but by necessity in flowering chambers. LED produces the best indoor bud I've ever grown, hands down. As close to outdoor as I've ever seen, smelt, tasted & handled. In both my organic soil & NFT hydro grows, it beats out my 1000's & 400's. That's it. Game over. I hated to pack them up after all those years, but it was clear.
The plants flower faster and fuller.All the strains (8) really finished richly and full of fragrance. Resin production is always excellent. Some strains finished up to two weeks ahead of my traditional lights, most seem to finish on the predicted schedules.Depending on strain characteristics, bud densities were virtually equal to outdoor results.
In summation, if you can afford the cost and time to explore LED lighting, I endorse them without reservation. Look at all the companies and options out there. There are a lot now and every month seems to bring new developments and products. And seriously, for most personal grow applications, the smaller wattage units coming out are the cheapest yet and work great. Hopes this helps someone out there. I will post a few photos on another post of actual results.
 
Sorry. Forgot to push upload!
 

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MmjBudClown

New member
Cool, it seems most people try to steer me away from LED, but I'm hard headed. I also believe they have a different idea of what I'm trying to accomplish.
 

Miraculous Meds

Well-known member
Cool, it seems most people try to steer me away from LED, but I'm hard headed. I also believe they have a different idea of what I'm trying to accomplish.

Different goals would obviously require different plans. My guess is that anybody that has taken the plunge into led is doing so for a hopeful improvement in quality and effect, as I haven't found any valid info that says they can compare with yield.
 

MmjBudClown

New member
I'm still in veg, 2 plants at 12 weeks, 3 at 9 weeks, and 1 at 8 weeks, my tallest plant is 11" tall shortest is 9". The older 2 were stunted by bad soil (MG), once I got them in coco they came around. I have my lights at 16" main light, and 13" inthe UFo's. I started the first 2 outside and they were shocked again when I brought them in and put them under the 360w LEd at around 8" away. Had intense ruffling and clawing from that. Live & learn.
 

MmjBudClown

New member
My main goal is minimal footprint electrical, and home alteration. Renting so no mode pug and play units are key. My grow needs to be virtually invisible. I like the idea of lower heat control cost, fewer bulb replacement. And some solid dank kolas..
 
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