Broad Mite and Spider Mite IPM for Cannabis (lets get a convo going)

[RetroGrow]

well I tired the advanced search so kindly suggested and I can't find it
https://www.icmag.com/ic/search.php?searchid=5080215
https://www.icmag.com/ic/search.php?searchid=5080232
https://www.icmag.com/ic/search.php?searchid=5080246

tried thermistor or thermistors both by post and by thread. you've never mentioned it until now.

Actually, I've mentioned it twice in this thread, but since you're looking in the wrong thread, you are not going to find it. Look in the broad mite thread (this is not the broad mite thread), "search this thread", "advanced search", "thermistors". It's there.
Here is the broad mite thread:
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?threadid=228387
Search "thermister", as the guy spelled it wrong.
That's why it's important to spell correctly, or use spell check (note to the I-Bot). If stuff is spelled wrong, it makes the "search" function useless, as they go by exact spelling. Or search Google. They usually catch spelling errors.

 

[xxxstr8edgexxx]

if you cant google and read the msds youre missing the actual info. its a five minute read. never ever use a chem without at the very minimum reading the msds. a point system assigned to toxity levels doesnt tell you shit unless its the msds toxity level numbers.. i wouldnt even bother reading that. you need half life info the enviromental fate, the msds and the manufacturers label. if your doing your due diligence youll also look for studies with plant tissue sample showing residuals. otherwise stick to organics or youll hurt yourself or someone else. dont look on canna sites for that stuff either. or if you do , confirm with real journals and info from studies.

 

[xxxstr8edgexxx]

no it isnt. try googling what is a msds and then go from there. your googler is broken homey.

is that info in the label instructions that's a mile long? I thought that just says how to handle correctly.

I finally found something that talks about solvents and then the more organic options use something different or better? is this the difference?

I have quit using the icmag search option long ago because most of my searches either yield a lot of results or the specific word I want is too small. google has worked well but then I get results from edu sites along with articles that can sum it up so much better than childish fighting. honestly just reading the old fights is really a downer and all this fighting, name calling and plain negativity has sucked all the fun I have had for growing! even when things were crappy and I wasn't online I still enjoyed learning and overcoming obstacles. but now I have to deal with everyone else. it used to be so relaxing and I found therapy in it.

 

[Former Guest]

so basically, from what you're telling me is that this forum is for not asking questions because I should use google and the search function gives you different results somehow using the advanced search, something I am using and reading stuff that is a whole new world to me because I'm a newb, not challenged, and so just by reading it, I should understand something that TO YOU is easy to understand, maybe something you've had experience once before because you know, all day long I talk about a thermistor? thermister? I thought you had misspelled it and were talking about thermostats.

there are stickys with table of contents, some are just short and good, and some are long but well written so each page has info on it, and then....there is the broad mite thread and root aphids threads and any thread that has to do with chems possibly and then all war breaks loose.

thing's I'm learning from icmag: don't ever tell people what you spray on your plants. oh? that's just a little mineral oil? better to avoid conflict based on personal opinions. because when you ask questions, you just get called names. sad.

 

[RetroGrow]

so basically, from what you're telling me is that this forum is for not asking questions because I should use google and the search function gives you different results somehow using the advanced search, something I am using and reading stuff that is a whole new world to me because I'm a newb, not challenged, and so just by reading it, I should understand something that TO YOU is easy to understand, maybe something you've had experience once before because you know, all day long I talk about a thermistor? thermister? I thought you had misspelled it and were talking about thermostats.

there are stickys with table of contents, some are just short and good, and some are long but well written so each page has info on it, and then....there is the broad mite thread and root aphids threads and any thread that has to do with chems possibly and then all war breaks loose.

thing's I'm learning from icmag: don't ever tell people what you spray on your plants. oh? that's just a little mineral oil? better to avoid conflict based on personal opinions. because when you ask questions, you just get called names. sad.

I don't know where you got that. I answered your question, as best I could. I explained to you how to use the search function, which you seemed to be having problems with. I gave you the link to the thread, because you seemed to be looking at the wrong threads. The answer you were looking for is right there, so I don't know what the problem is. Hopefully you found it from the link. The guy misspelled "thermistor", which I realized after checking it. So I gave you the way he spelled it,which was "thermister"...wrong spelling, but that's what it's under.
Never said anything about thermostat. Give a man a fish, and he will eat for a day, teach him to fish, and he (she) will eat for a lifetime. I was attempting to teach you how to use the search function. It is very useful once you know how to use it. You seem like a nice person, so anything you want to know, just ask or PM me. If I know the answer, I will explain it, just as I have to hundreds and hundreds of other people before you for the last 10 years. And yes, there are many folks here who are anti-chemical, because they know how the cash croppers abuse the chemicals, and how they will spray anything on their crop to save it, and then sell it to you regardless of the effect on your health. Go in the organic thread and start telling them to spray Avid/Forbid, etc., etc., and see the response you get. There are alternatives to all these poisons. Not a single one of them is NECESSARY, but many people still use them because they are simply too lazy to put in the time to look for alternatives.

 

[Former Guest]

thank you for the links to retro's threads of failure. it was the perfect thing to wake up and read. glad to know common sense is lacking with EVERYONE at some point and we all can make mistakes because we are human; not challenged. if you don't understand why people are so upset, perhaps you need to reread what you've written.

I've noticed there are people like me who are new, then people who are nice and helpful like xxxstr8edgexxx, then there are people who want to be a big shot, then there are people on here who don't post anything barely but pics. why are there people who don't post anything but pics? because of people who are bullies and domineering. thanks to those who are nice, the newbs and people who are so frustrated they just post pics. bud porn is nice too. but three different groups of peeps can far outnumber a small bunch of big shot jerks so we just gotta keep on keeping on guys! this forum is the most popular one and at any given time there's 200-300 members?? so who all is using the forums and why? many people signed up and you can read their comments that they were scared to post because they're just readers of the forums but finaly need help, so they resort to logging on here. this place is not friendly and any participating member should have credit where credit's due because at least they have the balls to get on here and talk despite people who make this place unfriendly. other gardening forums for veggies and such, you never see this behavior.


that ignore function is stupid. it should work both ways so he can't see what we post. that would solve a lot of fighting right there.

 

[Mikell]

IC is a bit of a jungle, take it as it is. Honestly, I wish people as a whole were harsher on willful ignorance (re: not doing simple fucking searches. I'm going to skullfuck the next person that asks for an acronym definition.) People/ideas are generally held to account here. If you pander in unfounded conjecture, chances are someones going to call you on your shit, while at sites like GC and RIU, you're a new guru with thousands of closetbanger jackoff followers.

This thread does pretty well to sum of the main problem with IC though. Bickering. Just drop it, move on, and post something worth reading. Once I figure a post is just another jab or bitchfest, I stop reading and roll down to the next one until I find something with meat.

use google to search icmag.
sample search term:
"broad mites azatrol icmag"
works waaaaay better

The search function on this site is a joke.

Google is less secure, but I use that as well. My concerns over internet security are nil due to location.

site:icmag.com works a little better
site:*.edu works great, and removes cannabis sites from search results.

and is there something special about broad mite eggs that makes them not susceptible to neem or horticultural oils? I haven't found any info stating that. so I would think that if you could employ methods that eat eggs like predatory mites or smother them with oils, you could gain control at least.

It's the size of the BM/CM and their eggs. Simply spraying can not guarantee 100% coverage. Whole plant dunks and escalating cultural control make contact solutions much more effective.

 

[RetroGrow]

IC is a bit of a jungle, take it as it is. Honestly, I wish people as a whole were harsher on willful ignorance (re: not doing simple fucking searches. I'm going to skullfuck the next person that asks for an acronym definition.) People/ideas are generally held to account here.

Agreed on the "too lazy to search". You can add "read" to that list also. As shown in this short thread, people who refuse to read or search are abundant. Hence my comment about redundancy. As hard as it is for some to accept, it really is common courtesy in any forum, not just here, to read and search first, before posting. I would like to hear a mods opinion on this. Maybe the rules are different here?

 

[redlaser]

maybe kind of like a cannabis robin hood or something?

 

[Red Berry]

i haven't read any of his posts so i cant say . i have to be in the right mood for fight club.

all i know is that its easier to kill mites when your sober then when your high.

 

[oldpink]

closed till I clean up this mess

 

[gaiusmarius]

took care of the clean up for you OP.

please be more considerate to each other, would save a lot of hassle. on the other hand people should also develop thicker skins, just because someone is saying something is wrong, doesn't make them rude or insulting. so yeah rude insults etc are not wanted and should be reported, be they in posts, pm's, or rep messages. further more posting rep and or pm messages in the open forum is against the sites terms of use.

members coming on here with the agenda of trolling a particular member will not be tolerated. the correct way to respond is to report the posts that contravene the terms of use.

discuss the issue at hand all you want, but keep it to the subject matter and away from each others personal opinions on the others relatives, or lack of intellectual prowess etc.

i really hate the aspect of the internet that allows certain people to feel they can say things they never would in real life in a face to face setting with folks. we stoners should be an example, for civilized online interaction, for other social media sites.

peace out.

ps: if you have any issue, report it, don't resort to insults, aggro, etc.

 

[Mikell]

Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

Maybe there is a way to accurately verify age before someone becomes a member?

 

[RetroGrow]

Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

Maybe there is a way to accurately verify age before someone becomes a member?

There is. Basically you can tell by the way they speak: bad English, ghetto speak, trash talking and redundant questions that have already been answered ad infinitum. Other than that, there is no way, and I'm pretty sure the site wants as many visitors as possible as all sites do.
Now an IQ test. That might help, but probably discriminatory.
By the way, is someone leaving? I missed that part.

 

[xxxstr8edgexxx]

sfcaregivers all left.

 

[RetroGrow]

I'm pretty sure I am dealing with cyclamen mites and not broads. they live inside the tissue where a lot of things can't get to except for heat.

Sorry, cyclamen mites do not live "inside" the tissue. Don't know where you got that from, but it's wrong. They live in the same place as broad mites, on the plants leaves. They hide in the meristem or new growth and avoid light. They do their business at night, laying eggs under the leaves.

 

[Former Guest]

if you read the entire post there is a link that provides that info but I will copy and paste it for you:

PLANT INJURY BY THE CYCLAMEN MITE AND THE BROAD MITE

The cyclamen mite develops slowly and does not quickly kill the
new growth, but, by feeding on the young tissue, causes characteris-
tic curling and distortion. The crevices in which this mite usually
hides are found in the young upward-folded leaves in the bud. Feed-
ing in this fold injures the upper leaf surface and prevents its growth,
while the lower surface expands and causes the leaf to curl upward
(figs. 1 and 2, B). On cyclamens the mites are found at the crown
within the young folded leaves (which are only one eighth inch long)
and crawl beneath sepals of the flower buds when still very small.
As the mites increase in numbers they severely injure the buds,
causing them to die (figs. 3 and 7, D). The cyclamen mite enters
through breaks in the surface or epidermal layer on injured leaves of
(4 Garman, P. tarsonemus pallidus banks, a pest of geraniums, order acarina. family tar-
sonemidae. Md. Agr. Expt. Sta. Bui. 208, p. |327]-342, illus. 1917.) Delphinium and breeds within the leaf tissue. It also penetrates the crown of Delphinium to the base of the leaves and is often found one half inch or more below the soil surface. Feeding areas on Delphinium often become blackened.

I hope that clarifies. pretty sure this thread is dead now anyways so really...

 

[Payaso]

I think this has been discussed and argued enough...the time has come to close this thread.

If this is still of interest to any member, please begin a new thread that we can keep on track.