feeding schedules! any experience growers please help!

[Saiksonas]

Hi, just got a 100x100x200 tent with 400HPS, 5' extractor and about to start my first grow in canna coco coir! Bought a HM digital EC-3 meter and PH meter too. Because It's my first grow in coir I'm not sure about feeding schedules and how to use fertilize. I've got canna A+B, canna bioboost, canna boost eccelerator, and plant magi CalMag.my tap water ec is 0.4 could you help me guys with feeding schedule? Can I use all fertilize together? How to know how much of each to put in and keep ec and ph level right? Going to start with autoflowering +speed (7weeks from seed to harvest) seeds coz its a bit easier. Thank you!

 

[Miraculous Meds]

I would suggest using u base nutrients at 1.0 to 1.2 ec, at 5.8ph. U will get great results from that alone, then play with the other addiitives how u like but I wouldn't let them be more that .2ec of my feed solution.

 

[Snow Crash]

Follow the labels. Or... Let me google that for you (the top link).

You do not have their full system. I assume you mean CANNA Coco A+B which really does depend on the Cannazym and PK13/14 to adjust the NPK ratios for blooming plants. BioBoost and Boost Accelerator are basically the same thing, and you probably spent $100 more on one of those than you needed to. The CalMag is probably unecessary given your 0.4ec water. Wait to see a deficiency before using it.

I will start in Veg at about 5ml/gallon and gradually increase to the CANNA suggested levels. When feeding full strength be sure to get 20% minimum runoff to prevent buildup.

 

[Imationkarl]

With your water starting at 0.4ec you might not need the ca/mg. but keep an eye on it. if you DO see ca/mg deficiency, make sure it's not a ph issue or salt buildup before feeding more.

one thing that has saved my ass with coco is checking the runoff EC. you want it within 0.2ec of what you're putting in. if you end up with tons of salt buildup or you fuck something up, flush the plants with 0.4ec water (ideally RO water and dose it with ca/mg to 0.4ec) until the runoff EC reads within 0.2 of what you generally feed. do not worry about runoff ph. mine is always around 5.00 and i don't worry about it.

if you can afford it, and want to not worry about all of this, you can just run healthy runoff with each watering and you shouldn't get buildup.

other than that, canna is good nutrients. canna coco is definitely the best i've used. i cut it with 30% course perlite.

 

[Imationkarl]

i forgot to add, after you flush the plants and get the ec back within 0.2 of what you're feeding, give them some full strength fertilizer to load the coco up again.

 

[stoned40yrs]

Follow the labels. Or... Let me google that for you (the top link).

Sweet I was going to tell him to look it up as soon as he posted but figured I'd let someone else be the joker this time.

 

[Saiksonas]

Thanks to everyone! Which one would you choose bioboost or boost accelerator? When should I start feeding plants? To germinate I'll use jiffy pellets, shoud I put it in 2gallon pots straight away or to a smaller ones and then transplant?

 

[Imationkarl]

i start using nutrients at full power the day the clones are rooted and transplanted. i go from the starter plugs, to small solo cups or 4" pots to 3gal where they stay for the rest of their lives. big big trees in 3 gallons.

one thing about coco, you will do better with a MUCH smaller pot than you would use in soil. My soil friends are growing the same size trees as me using about 35gallon pots filled with roots organics. i grow those same size plants in 3gallon pots watering 8 times a day.

 

[Snow Crash]

Sweet I was going to tell him to look it up as soon as he posted but figured I'd let someone else be the joker this time.

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With your water starting at 0.4ec you might not need the ca/mg. but keep an eye on it. if you DO see ca/mg deficiency, make sure it's not a ph issue or salt buildup before feeding more.

one thing that has saved my ass with coco is checking the runoff EC. you want it within 0.2ec of what you're putting in. if you end up with tons of salt buildup or you fuck something up, flush the plants with 0.4ec water (ideally RO water and dose it with ca/mg to 0.4ec) until the runoff EC reads within 0.2 of what you generally feed. do not worry about runoff ph. mine is always around 5.00 and i don't worry about it.

if you can afford it, and want to not worry about all of this, you can just run healthy runoff with each watering and you shouldn't get buildup.

other than that, canna is good nutrients. canna coco is definitely the best i've used. i cut it with 30% course perlite.

Solid advice, I dig it.

Thanks to everyone! Which one would you choose bioboost or boost accelerator? When should I start feeding plants? To germinate I'll use jiffy pellets, shoud I put it in 2gallon pots straight away or to a smaller ones and then transplant?

I've run both, they gave me exactly the same results, so I'd keep the less expensive of the two (I think the BioBoost from memory). Utilize it as a foliar spray at about 2.5ml per liter and you'll get great results using a lot less over the course of the grow.

 

[Saiksonas]

I've measured my tp water again and ec meter show 752, as far as I understand its ec=0.7??? And ph is 7? How shoud I deal with that?

 

[Ganjaganjakush]

Your Gubna need RO water

 

[Miraculous Meds]

I've measured my tp water again and ec meter show 752, as far as I understand its ec=0.7??? And ph is 7? How shoud I deal with that?

electrical conductivity, (ec) is what the meter measures. Then for some reason different companies use different conversion factors. The typical ones being 1ec =500ppm or 1ec =700ppm. So u are either just over 1 ec, or just over 1.5ec.

My total feed starting with 0 ppm, is 1.2ec. U can now see that ur tap water is equal to the entire amount of nutrients that I use to feed a healthy plant through its whole life. IMO, tap water needs to be .2ec to .4ec max before it starts to alter ur nutrient ratios, that will cause problems in ur feed. So around 200ppm on .5 scale or 280ppm on .7 scale.

U are about triple that. Basically ur tap water sucks. Mine comes out around 450 to 500, and I think mine sucks, so RO water it is for me, and that's what I suggest for u. It makes life a lot easier starting with RO water cause u don't have to guess what elements are in ur tap water and how to adjust to them with ur nutrients.

 

[Saiksonas]

Forgot to say that my ec meter shows in µs.. would that make 752 = 0.7ec ?? Migh be a stupid question but whats RO water? When I was growing in soil I was buying it with ph 5.8 from shop,but only needes watering once a week....

 

[Miraculous Meds]

Forgot to say that my ec meter shows in µs.. would that make 752 = 0.7ec ?? Migh be a stupid question but whats RO water? When I was growing in soil I was buying it with ph 5.8 from shop,but only needes watering once a week....

I don't know what that means "us"?

Ro is reverse osmosis filtration, it basically takes all elements out of water so u start with 0ppm.

 

[Saiksonas]

Its not us its µs. Some weird letter. Any other option for ec? Cant afford that filter at the minute... what about buying still water of shop till I get money for RO?

 

[Miraculous Meds]

Its not us its µs. Some weird letter. Any other option for ec? Cant afford that filter at the minute... what about buying still water of shop till I get money for RO?

I understand its not us, I don't know where the key is for that symbol.

Yeah u can just buy filtered water.

A decent 2 to 1 ro system is around $200, that comes with the auto shutoff valve, ro float valve, pre filters, basically just plug and play.

 

[Snow Crash]

Its not us its µs. Some weird letter. Any other option for ec? Cant afford that filter at the minute... what about buying still water of shop till I get money for RO?

It stands for "Micro Siemens" if memory serves (Although, the memory ain't what it used to be... you know?).

So, a 1.0EC is 1000 µS. It could also be 100 CF. Lack of standardization is kind of an issue in our industry.

 

[Saiksonas]

Here is similar ec meter to minehttp://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B007GP70UU?cache=b1d08cda31d3aebcde71be59712c2be2&pi=AC_SX110_SY165&qid=1413481276&sr=8-4#ref=mp_s_a_1_4

 

[Miraculous Meds]

Here is similar ec meter to minehttp://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B007GP70UU?cache=b1d08cda31d3aebcde71be59712c2be2&pi=AC_SX110_SY165&qid=1413481276&sr=8-4#ref=mp_s_a_1_4

Hey bud, I don't like looking at external links for safety but, check to see if u can change ur reading to read ec on ur meter. Ive got a blue lab and by pushing the ec button and holding it I can switch from ec to ppm, to maybe some others but I stick with ec cause its what every meter reads first and converts from.

 

[Saiksonas]

Thanks again everyone! If you know any tips for beginner grower, please tell! Appreciate that!