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Cep
Things are pretty much wrapped up for the season. There is some talk on other threads about harvest styles and I wanted to show a few pics from an incremental harvest. Most of you do the same but for informative purposes I usually take the tops and leave the second shell on the plant to ripen for a week. This can be done 2-4 times in my experience based on the plant and how much energy is left in the soil/roots.
The quality is still pretty good with the second cut but I haven't seen the sun much in the last 20 days so things are starting to go south. So far though I haven't lost much to botrytis (some pictured in second pic) this year and the overall quality is exceptional for temperate rainforest grown canna.
The quality is still pretty good with the second cut but I haven't seen the sun much in the last 20 days so things are starting to go south. So far though I haven't lost much to botrytis (some pictured in second pic) this year and the overall quality is exceptional for temperate rainforest grown canna.
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Cep
Here are the test results for the Odyssey. I submitted a sample from the early cut of tops and then a second sample from a plant that I left the tops on for over a week longer:
The results are very close but I'm sure I lost significant yield by cutting so early. Last year I cut this variety on 9/22. The difference is that the products used this year seem to push the plant further and prolong "ripening"(whatever that means bc we aren't talking about fruit). It wasn't a statistically significant trial with AEA or Biological Advantage products because I didn't have my soil dialed or the same in each treatment. I'm very happy with the results and will be playing around with these products in the future.
One thing I will note is that the Bio Advantage stuff would be better for soils that do not have excess Potassium. Rejuvenate and Micro 5000 contain some K and I was very light handed with them when used. AEA, Albion, and other companies have more specific products that emphasize things like Calcium and Phosphorus if that is what your plants need.
The results are very close but I'm sure I lost significant yield by cutting so early. Last year I cut this variety on 9/22. The difference is that the products used this year seem to push the plant further and prolong "ripening"(whatever that means bc we aren't talking about fruit). It wasn't a statistically significant trial with AEA or Biological Advantage products because I didn't have my soil dialed or the same in each treatment. I'm very happy with the results and will be playing around with these products in the future.
One thing I will note is that the Bio Advantage stuff would be better for soils that do not have excess Potassium. Rejuvenate and Micro 5000 contain some K and I was very light handed with them when used. AEA, Albion, and other companies have more specific products that emphasize things like Calcium and Phosphorus if that is what your plants need.
mendo-local
Member
Good work! I hope some of you guys that are into soil tests can check mine out when I get it.
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Cep
I got this thing in the mail about a sap analysis conference in cali Nov 8ish. Tech is here, only a matter of time.
Mendo, feel free to post your results here. The guys that post in this thread are good heads. I like to see as many lab results as possible, especially when I can get details about what the mix was or the field conditions.
I'll be submitting a sample of that mystery strain this week. People like it a lot so I think its going to stick around. A third Odyssey sample is going to a different lab at some point to see what comes out.
Mendo, feel free to post your results here. The guys that post in this thread are good heads. I like to see as many lab results as possible, especially when I can get details about what the mix was or the field conditions.
I'll be submitting a sample of that mystery strain this week. People like it a lot so I think its going to stick around. A third Odyssey sample is going to a different lab at some point to see what comes out.
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Cep
Results from a second lab:
Pretty huge difference. I have a hard time believing numbers close to 30% for this plant, especially considering the last lab returned results showing around 10% less. The mystery strain was labelled "garbage" bc thats what it smells like.
Any of you care to chime in about the variance here?
Pretty huge difference. I have a hard time believing numbers close to 30% for this plant, especially considering the last lab returned results showing around 10% less. The mystery strain was labelled "garbage" bc thats what it smells like.
Any of you care to chime in about the variance here?
Stoney Johnson
Member
According to the lab I use, If a filter is not changed every batch the numbers start climbing. $5 filter. My highest was a 22.5 and 22.3, a couple in the high 17's. A NYCD that needed more time 13 something.
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Which lab, if you don't mind?
I'd go to one other lab to see if you get a similar result. I like chem history and the way they do their testing but I've heard sunrise is supposed to be on point. Doesn't seem like they are on it this time...
furrywall11
Member
I vaguely remember overhearing that sunrise consistently gives uber high numbers that can pretty much be disregarded... either that or you're keeling it
Stoney Johnson
Member
Kenevir Research
Sunrise Analytical is run by a "Senior" technician who is an expert and has run Major Labs all over the US. I personally feel their work is impeccable and have had accurate results from Sunrise (they hold samples for verification). I would point out that Subcool uses Sunrise and could use anybody he wanted. The only lab I have had problems with is Green Leaf as the work from them was sadly inaccurate, they were difficult to work with (could/would not fix the problem) and I will no longer use them
