Sure mate - I'll post a few pics for you. BTW your gallery is embarrassing. I'm picking you must be an organic grower. Listen up again moron I don't grow organically - are we clear on that now?
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AN CarboLoad, is it really that good?
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Sure mate - I'll post a few pics for you. BTW your gallery is embarrassing. I'm picking you must be an organic grower. Listen up again moron I don't grow organically - are we clear on that now?
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sourpuss
Call me stupid again
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sourpuss
As if u grew those
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sourpuss
My buddy bought your stuff... just remembered he said it was the worst product ever.... fuckin miracle grow repackaged... lol
Again fool - we don't sell anything. Never traded. Never will as Manic Botanix. She'll be a magazine soon. Growers need their own mag free from industry interests who talk shite - bit like this thread. Talking about sugar water without even knowing the actives.Like carbolaod - no probs. Add 250grams a litre of glucose and save yourself some dollars. Oh yeah and use a decent fulvic acid (FA) in the res- - lignite derived FA is garbage for hydroponics (high HA low FA content).
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sourpuss
Stupid is as stupid does.... ur a great business man.... such a way with words.... guess thats why your here pushing your crap cause your broke... and you gotta do it for free... I can get nice pics off the web too... such bs... your album is empty from 2005.... u dont even grow
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sourpuss
So its a magazine advertising that u should be paying ic for... bottom line... reported... even worse a rival website... really sneaky...
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sourpuss
Ur here for a purpose to promote your website.... me I dont give a shit... il say whatever I want.... really just trying to get this erased cause you dont deserve the promotion...
If you are talking about MB ferts that is US based stupid and has nothing to do with me. We don't sell dip shit (to repeat over and over) - try using the shop link. BTW - I definitely wouldn't purchase from MB ferts. So post some pics hot shot - show us your sad twigs. Oh here's a cartoon I had drawn when warning growers to be wary of learning from forums (some good info with a lot of shite in between). It was commissioned with people like you in mind. The blind leading the blind
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You pretty much nailed it - you don't give a shit and that's why you talk so much shit presumably. The thread is about carboload. I informed people that carboload was sugar water - seems to me that now at least growers know 1) what they are using and 2) how to make it and save a lot of money. Seems you're getting very uptight - what are you really shilling? Try adding something intelligent to the conversation rather than taking low rent shots and acting like a spoiled 12 year old
I'll take that as a compliment but then looking at your sad arsed grow shots that's not much of a compliment
Rabbi
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I used AN carboLoad for 10 years(hydro) than finally did a head to head grow, one with it and one with no carbo to see if it actually was making a difference or just wasting my money and time...end result proved to be money down the shitter for 10 years...oh well at least i know now. Hopefully others who read this can save themselves from wasting as much money and time as i did.
With that being said I'm in no way an AN hater. I use their 3 part religiously and happy with it.
With that being said I'm in no way an AN hater. I use their 3 part religiously and happy with it.
Agree totally - AN make some good products. Carboload isn't one of them. All I hate is the BS they have spun to growers which has then become urban myth. And yes, other than promoting bennies I can't see sugar having any benefits to plants.
sourpuss, just stop. You're clearly in way over your head, you don't even know how to correctly incorporate molasses into your feeding program so you should read more, post less. You might learn something.
glow, one thing I've learned through the years of knocking dumb shit like CarboLoad is that some bottled products hold some sort of psychological sway over some growers and nothing you say will change that. AN seems to be the leader of the pack in this regard, lots of growers using their stuff seem to think it's impossible to get similar results otherwise. Insert witty line about cognitive dissonance or rationalization here.
AN claims it is specifically formulated for hydroponic applications so that none of the issues encountered when incorrectly using molasses happens with CarboLoad. Basically, by AN's own admissions, it's carbs for dummies.
As a brief aside, I checked your site and gotta say, the write-up about hydro vs organic is a bit disingenuous. Talk about cherry picking. Did you decide to pick the worst possible organic fertilizer to make your case for hydro, one which many (dare I say most, even?) organic growers have moved on from, or was that just the first one you came across? I hope in the future you can do better than that when trying to present an honest discussion about the merits of different cultivation practices.
glow, one thing I've learned through the years of knocking dumb shit like CarboLoad is that some bottled products hold some sort of psychological sway over some growers and nothing you say will change that. AN seems to be the leader of the pack in this regard, lots of growers using their stuff seem to think it's impossible to get similar results otherwise. Insert witty line about cognitive dissonance or rationalization here.
AN claims it is specifically formulated for hydroponic applications so that none of the issues encountered when incorrectly using molasses happens with CarboLoad. Basically, by AN's own admissions, it's carbs for dummies.
As a brief aside, I checked your site and gotta say, the write-up about hydro vs organic is a bit disingenuous. Talk about cherry picking. Did you decide to pick the worst possible organic fertilizer to make your case for hydro, one which many (dare I say most, even?) organic growers have moved on from, or was that just the first one you came across? I hope in the future you can do better than that when trying to present an honest discussion about the merits of different cultivation practices.
bigalthegrower
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I don't want to derail the thread to much but while we got G Lows attention.......
Does CannaBoost fall into the same category? Would you consider it overpriced sugar water?
Does CannaBoost fall into the same category? Would you consider it overpriced sugar water?
In short nope. I quite like CANNA as a company. They have kept a minimal line and not fed growers reams of shite about a dicot needing a million additives to achieve (near to) genetic potential. Is it overpriced - that really depends. You can't blame these guys for making a profit and when you compare say the pharmaceutical industry to the hydro industry the profits are tiny for hydro manufacturers. I've never used Boost (I have been making my own nutrients and additives for over a decade) but I have heard good feedback on it so if you spend a bit to make a lot more that is smart growing.
Interesting feedback - which organic fertilizer are you talking about? Good points also and I always appreciate feedback - good and bad.
And totally agree about the placebo effect as I call it.
And PS - sourpuss just relax mate - pull a pipe. Sorry I've been a bit hard on you and never like to come across as a cyber bully. Growing is a journey - we all make mistakes along the way. But slinging insults serves no one and detracts from the discussion. As for being a bad business man - hell yeah but then I aren't trading so I'm not here to make sales. Rasputin makes a good point though - sometimes it is better to listen - no one learns by not listening.
bigalthegrower
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Thanks for the reply glow.
Ive been using Canna products for years and although I think they are expensive, they work very well. I just wanted your opinion of CannaBoost. I am a big fan of your work. I've read integral hydroponics years ago. I am thrilled to hear that you are in the middle of writing a new book. I have also read ManixBotanix website start to finish more than once.
Ive been using Canna products for years and although I think they are expensive, they work very well. I just wanted your opinion of CannaBoost. I am a big fan of your work. I've read integral hydroponics years ago. I am thrilled to hear that you are in the middle of writing a new book. I have also read ManixBotanix website start to finish more than once.
My pleasure M8 - the new Edition of IH will have about 200 pages on nutrient theory so that growers can discern between the facts and the hype (alien tech). Massive task in writing - just finished a section on how to make your own beneficial bacteria and fungi concentrate additives - our friend sourpuss perhaps should read it as there is a section on making a ferment of molasses and best practice for maintaining a bio nutrient tank. Basically involves inline air filtration using a syringe micro filter - the old IH was for the beginner ---- this one takes it to a whole new level.
