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this is giving me the willies

GeorgeWBush

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Yesterday Connecticut declared a state of emergency granting itself the power to detain anyone, quarantine anyone, do medical experiments on anyone, take anyone anywhere they see fit at anytime, to any facility, camp or dungeon, for as long as they want, if they decide you are a risk. Several days ago a building in Paris was barricaded with 70 people inside because they SUSPECTED 4 people inside MIGHT have Ebola. The illusion of Civil Rights will crumble quickly when spotty outbreaks pop up in random areas. What about when someone at your work is suspected? Will they barricade you inside? What about your kids at school? Will they board them up?

People who argue that Ebola is not airborne are misguided and rely way too much on Government lapdog media. They have known about airborne Ebola since when the Hot Zone episode in Reston occurred. The key is "close contact". Like in a school, or on a bus or subway, or in a pub or restaraunt, or in your house sitting around with your family and friends. There was never a definitive"not airborne" scenario. They are just saying this to downplay risk and avoid panic. The infection math continues. Ebola cases double every 28 days. Exponential functions are a bitch.

Flu season is upon us again. The symptoms are exactly the same as Ebola, for a while. How will the Ebola police deal with millions of snotty nose, hacking, fever running, achey breaky multitudes all flocking to over stressed, understaffed, and soon to be abandoned hospitals? Because, believe me here, my wife was a nurse for 35 years, the doctors, nurses, EMT's, nurses aids, PA's and everyone else will do as they are doing all across west Africa: fleeing for their lives.

I live in Connecticut and this poster is a LIAR who is talking out of his ass but just so you know in a state of natural emergency your civil rights go right out the window...noting new or unusual is happening here in CT....this poster is a TERRORIST plain and simple he's trying to force feed you his radical, extremist point of view just like a jihadist would, there is no difference at all...he's using fear and propaganda and mis information to cause you to panic....that is a terrorist by definition..EBOLA IS NOT I REPEAT NOT A AIRBORNE CONTAGION ITS JUST NOT SCIENTIFICALLY POSSIBLE..THE ONLY WAY TO CONTACT THE VIRUS IS THROUGH BODILY FLUIDS BEING EXCHANGED....EBOLA CAN NOT LIVE IN THE AIR IT NEEDS CELLS AND A HOST SO UNLESS SOMEONE WITH EBOLA SPITS OR SNEEZES RIGHT IN YOUR MOUTH YOU'RE NOT GETTING IT THROUGH BREATHING.....the level of ignorance at this
site is astounding I mean it's expected from a bunch of pot heads to a certain degree but here it's just astounding, I'm a pot head to my core but somehow managed to avoid losing the fundamental basic education I received which is all you need to put this thing in perspective.....posters like ronbo51 (wonder if the 51 is a refrence to area 51...I'm willing to bet it is, but the poster is a confirmed liar so can't count on him telling you ) and other terrorist's pose allot bigger threat to your safety and well being than EBOLA ever will...
 

ronbo51

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http://www.governor.ct.gov/malloy/lib/malloy/2014.10.07_Declaration_of_Public_Health_Emergency.pdf


(1) Regulations prescribed under this section may provide for the apprehension and examination of any individual reasonably believed to be infected with a communicable disease in a qualifying stage and (A) to be moving or about to move from a State to another State; or (B) to be a probable source of infection to individuals who, while infected with such disease in a qualifying stage, will be moving from a State to another State. Such regulations may provide that if upon examination any such individual is found to be infected, he may be detained for such time and in such manner as may be reasonably necessary. For purposes of this subsection, the term “State” includes, in addition to the several States, only the District of Columbia.
 

GeorgeWBush

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http://www.governor.ct.gov/malloy/lib/malloy/2014.10.07_Declaration_of_Public_Health_Emergency.pdf


(1) Regulations prescribed under this section may provide for the apprehension and examination of any individual reasonably believed to be infected with a communicable disease in a qualifying stage and (A) to be moving or about to move from a State to another State; or (B) to be a probable source of infection to individuals who, while infected with such disease in a qualifying stage, will be moving from a State to another State. Such regulations may provide that if upon examination any such individual is found to be infected, he may be detained for such time and in such manner as may be reasonably necessary. For purposes of this subsection, the term “State” includes, in addition to the several States, only the District of Columbia.

NEWS FLASH TERRORIST, THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN POLICY SINCE HOMELAND SECURITY ACT.....NOT NEW'S OR EVEN NEW...GET A GRIP YOU SOFT MINDED TROGLODYTE, TERRORIST....OH AND FOR THE RECORD THERE ARE NOT 72 VIRGINS WAITING FOR YOU
 

ronbo51

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Hey GW,

Care to add anything useful to the discussion or do you just want me hauled off to the Fema camp. My "radical, extremist view"?? The way I see it, you are a loudmouth dumbass who doesn't have a clue about Ebola, Connecticut, or anything else for that matter. So you think I am wrong? Well good for you. Are you basing your argument on anything other than what a bunch of insider hacks are telling you? That CDC Director has changed his tune along with El Presidente several times already regarding how one gets infected. And how close exactly did you say you need to be when hacking, puking, shitting. bleeding Ebola victims are nearby?? Since you don't know in the end you don't know mare than me. The difference is that you are quite certain of yourself and seem to be easily swayed by public officials. I could post thousands of links to all the shit I have ever read about Ebola, including the fact that the Reston monkeys were separated by rooms and cages and still all died after they disinfected the facility, twice. Also recent articles quoting CJ Peters, who led the team at the Reston facility and was in cahrge of USAMRID at the time says airborne cannot be ruled out. Maybe you can get back to calling me a terrorist now, eh?
 

GeorgeWBush

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Hey GW,

Care to add anything useful to the discussion or do you just want me hauled off to the Fema camp. My "radical, extremist view"?? The way I see it, you are a loudmouth dumbass who doesn't have a clue about Ebola, Connecticut, or anything else for that matter. So you think I am wrong? Well good for you. Are you basing your argument on anything other than what a bunch of insider hacks are telling you? That CDC Director has changed his tune along with El Presidente several times already regarding how one gets infected. And how close exactly did you say you need to be when hacking, puking, shitting. bleeding Ebola victims are nearby?? Since you don't know in the end you don't know mare than me. The difference is that you are quite certain of yourself and seem to be easily swayed by public officials. I could post thousands of links to all the shit I have ever read about Ebola, including the fact that the Reston monkeys were separated by rooms and cages and still all died after they disinfected the facility, twice. Also recent articles quoting CJ Peters, who led the team at the Reston facility and was in cahrge of USAMRID at the time says airborne cannot be ruled out. Maybe you can get back to calling me a terrorist now, eh?

there are just as many links to opposing views idiot, and you seemed pretty sure of yourself when telling people it is airborne didn't you bin laden ? so gtfo of here with your terrorist point of view and fear mongering you don't know anymore than anyone but I do know for a FACT it is not a airborne contagion..In fact I've forgotten more about ebola and other virus's than you will ever know and yes I do believe you belong locked up in a filthy cage like the scumbag terrorist you are just 2 sentences from you and it's very very clear you are a danger to society and to yourself
 
as far as I can see it is not an air borne pathogen. not aying that if there is omeone in close proximity to you sneezing coughing and shitting blood that you might not get some virus in your eye nose or mouth and contract the disease
 
not sure even that would really be enough though. we would need to quaranteen everyone who has visited a hospital where a case hase been reported in the last 30 days as well for at least 30 days
 

trichrider

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New Ebola vaccine will be worthless
With 368 mutations already found, there will be no vaccine that will work. Any pushing of an ebola vaccine will be for something other than providing immunity for Ebola, and for anyone who is aware of the recent CDC bust of vaccine links to autism, that "other" is not likely to be good.



It may not even be Ebola at all, and is likely to instead be some sort of engineered hybrid.
Prior to this outbreak, Ebola had a very high genetic stability and remained unchanged through multiple outbreaks. In fact, Ebola has been so stable that it was considered remarkable for this. Why then, with this outbreak, are there so many mutations of this new type, when in past outbreaks NO mutations have been noted at all?



Additionally, this new outbreak has none of the characteristics of previous outbreaks
There is something missing in this Ebola outbreak, and it is the bloody eyes and ears, and bleeding through the skin. This time all the bleeding is internal and nothing shows outwardly. All the bloody blistered skin photos on the web are from previous outbreaks, with this particular strain people look outwardly normal up until death and die from internal bleeding, vomiting up blood and having massive stools of black goo from internal bleeding. In this way, the new Ebola is mimicking Parvo in dogs, and I would at least tenuously bet that traditional Ebola has been merged in a lab with a different virus that is known for causing only internal bleeding, possibly parvo.



368 mutations in a previously stable virus screams BIO LAB
This is where things may go amiss. Previously, Ebola was a stable virus that could have had a predictable cure. The current strain is mutating so rapidly that if all the recorded cases were added up and divided by the number of mutations, each mutated strain would have only infected an average of 20 people. That is a phenomenal mutation rate, which will render any vaccine attempt useless.

And how could it have happened other than willful intent? The answer is obvious - a lab created this new strain, that lab did not have endless people to kill to prove their virus stable and they just let it go in live tests, out in the wild. And because it was not stable, they now have a mutating monster on the loose. That is the best explanation there could possibly be for why Ebola, which has remained stable as far back as records go, suddenly became a chameleon. This new bug is an unstable bioweapon, possibly more unstable than its creators intended.



Beware of history rewrites, which will provide plausible deniability for whoever did this
Watch out for any news saying how Ebola mutates continuously without mentioning that prior to this outbreak Ebola was VERY STABLE, and question strongly WHY this new strain is so different from past strains, from outward symptoms, to incubation times, to mutation rates, it is all far too different for this to have happened naturally in a formerly stable virus. Someone did this and the question WHO DID THIS should be kept front and center until we get the answer. We know an American biowarfare firm was in this area "testing Ebola detection kits", I suggest people start with that.



There are very few pictures of people infected with this new strain, and none show the normal bleeding. Why?

Take a look at a google image search with all photos dated a year or more old, and compare them to a google image search of pictures dated to within the time frame of THIS OUTBREAKAND NOTICE THAT EVERYTHING OUT THERE FOR THIS OUTBREAK THAT IS RECOGNIZABLE AS EBOLA IS JUST A REPEAT OF OLD EBOLA PICTURES with anything new just showing people without any blisters.
Almost all of what we are seeing is body bags which show NOTHING, with all other pictures showing none of the classic symptoms. The picture to the left is a prime example, this man who reportedly is an Ebola victim is showing NOTHING that would indicate he ever had Ebola at all. So why is this so different? People in Africa could certainly publish pictures to the web, why then is all we are seeing is pictures of something that is obviously not normal ebola? Pictures dated to before this outbreak clearly show what ebola looks like, I challenge you to find any photo at all from this new outbreak that looks even remotely similar to traditional ebola.



The symptoms say it all
Here are the symptoms from the current strain,
•Fever (greater than 38.6°C or 101.5°F)
•Severe headache
•Muscle pain
•Weakness
•Diarrhea
•Vomiting
•Abdominal (stomach) pain
•Lack of appetite

In other words, the current symptoms mimic the flu (except for the noted internal bleeding this outbreak has). Now for the classic ebola symptoms:
"After 3-4 days of non-specific symptoms and signs, patients typically experienced progressively severe sore throat, developed a maculopapular rash, had intractable abdominal pain, and began to bleed from multiple sites, principally the gastrointestinal tract. "

And the pictures of this current outbreak prove the classic ebola is not what we are dealing with this time around. The biggest thing in common is gastrointestinal bleeding.



Recovery times also indicate this new ebola is more like a souped up flu than ebola
Usually, with ebola, recovery takes months and sometimes never happens completely because the liver, kidneys and other organs including the brain get damaged. Yet we see in the media pictures of ebola "survivors" that are up and about only two weeks after having it. This is not possible with real ebola, this outbreak really is more like a really bad flu than anything else



The bottom line is that the symptoms are not consistent with classic ebola. Recovery times are too fast, and the current CDC list of symptoms does not match the old list except when the CDC combines the new list with the old list to muddy the water. Something is amiss with this, and the new vaccine can only be bogus with so many mutated variants. There is no way any vaccine can be real, we are dealing with a bioweapon this time around which makes that impossible, avoid any "vaccine" like you would the disease itself.

http://jimstonefreelance.com/ebolanotnormal.html
 

GeorgeWBush

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Veteran
New Ebola vaccine will be worthless
With 368 mutations already found, there will be no vaccine that will work. Any pushing of an ebola vaccine will be for something other than providing immunity for Ebola, and for anyone who is aware of the recent CDC bust of vaccine links to autism, that "other" is not likely to be good.



It may not even be Ebola at all, and is likely to instead be some sort of engineered hybrid.
Prior to this outbreak, Ebola had a very high genetic stability and remained unchanged through multiple outbreaks. In fact, Ebola has been so stable that it was considered remarkable for this. Why then, with this outbreak, are there so many mutations of this new type, when in past outbreaks NO mutations have been noted at all?



Additionally, this new outbreak has none of the characteristics of previous outbreaks
There is something missing in this Ebola outbreak, and it is the bloody eyes and ears, and bleeding through the skin. This time all the bleeding is internal and nothing shows outwardly. All the bloody blistered skin photos on the web are from previous outbreaks, with this particular strain people look outwardly normal up until death and die from internal bleeding, vomiting up blood and having massive stools of black goo from internal bleeding. In this way, the new Ebola is mimicking Parvo in dogs, and I would at least tenuously bet that traditional Ebola has been merged in a lab with a different virus that is known for causing only internal bleeding, possibly parvo.



368 mutations in a previously stable virus screams BIO LAB
This is where things may go amiss. Previously, Ebola was a stable virus that could have had a predictable cure. The current strain is mutating so rapidly that if all the recorded cases were added up and divided by the number of mutations, each mutated strain would have only infected an average of 20 people. That is a phenomenal mutation rate, which will render any vaccine attempt useless.

And how could it have happened other than willful intent? The answer is obvious - a lab created this new strain, that lab did not have endless people to kill to prove their virus stable and they just let it go in live tests, out in the wild. And because it was not stable, they now have a mutating monster on the loose. That is the best explanation there could possibly be for why Ebola, which has remained stable as far back as records go, suddenly became a chameleon. This new bug is an unstable bioweapon, possibly more unstable than its creators intended.



Beware of history rewrites, which will provide plausible deniability for whoever did this
Watch out for any news saying how Ebola mutates continuously without mentioning that prior to this outbreak Ebola was VERY STABLE, and question strongly WHY this new strain is so different from past strains, from outward symptoms, to incubation times, to mutation rates, it is all far too different for this to have happened naturally in a formerly stable virus. Someone did this and the question WHO DID THIS should be kept front and center until we get the answer. We know an American biowarfare firm was in this area "testing Ebola detection kits", I suggest people start with that.



There are very few pictures of people infected with this new strain, and none show the normal bleeding. Why?

Take a look at a google image search with all photos dated a year or more old, and compare them to a google image search of pictures dated to within the time frame of THIS OUTBREAKAND NOTICE THAT EVERYTHING OUT THERE FOR THIS OUTBREAK THAT IS RECOGNIZABLE AS EBOLA IS JUST A REPEAT OF OLD EBOLA PICTURES with anything new just showing people without any blisters.
Almost all of what we are seeing is body bags which show NOTHING, with all other pictures showing none of the classic symptoms. The picture to the left is a prime example, this man who reportedly is an Ebola victim is showing NOTHING that would indicate he ever had Ebola at all. So why is this so different? People in Africa could certainly publish pictures to the web, why then is all we are seeing is pictures of something that is obviously not normal ebola? Pictures dated to before this outbreak clearly show what ebola looks like, I challenge you to find any photo at all from this new outbreak that looks even remotely similar to traditional ebola.



The symptoms say it all
Here are the symptoms from the current strain,
•Fever (greater than 38.6°C or 101.5°F)
•Severe headache
•Muscle pain
•Weakness
•Diarrhea
•Vomiting
•Abdominal (stomach) pain
•Lack of appetite

In other words, the current symptoms mimic the flu (except for the noted internal bleeding this outbreak has). Now for the classic ebola symptoms:
"After 3-4 days of non-specific symptoms and signs, patients typically experienced progressively severe sore throat, developed a maculopapular rash, had intractable abdominal pain, and began to bleed from multiple sites, principally the gastrointestinal tract. "

And the pictures of this current outbreak prove the classic ebola is not what we are dealing with this time around. The biggest thing in common is gastrointestinal bleeding.



Recovery times also indicate this new ebola is more like a souped up flu than ebola
Usually, with ebola, recovery takes months and sometimes never happens completely because the liver, kidneys and other organs including the brain get damaged. Yet we see in the media pictures of ebola "survivors" that are up and about only two weeks after having it. This is not possible with real ebola, this outbreak really is more like a really bad flu than anything else



The bottom line is that the symptoms are not consistent with classic ebola. Recovery times are too fast, and the current CDC list of symptoms does not match the old list except when the CDC combines the new list with the old list to muddy the water. Something is amiss with this, and the new vaccine can only be bogus with so many mutated variants. There is no way any vaccine can be real, we are dealing with a bioweapon this time around which makes that impossible, avoid any "vaccine" like you would the disease itself.

http://jimstonefreelance.com/ebolanotnormal.html

fair enough to think this way but even so, who cares, If it was engineered in a bio lab then a vaccine was also engineered and it will be allot easier to contain.personally I think it's just evolving virus's do that ya know they evolve then mutate...In any event you wanna live in fear be my guest I won't, guess I'm too strong or too smart to buy into it like that...
 

trichrider

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HARTFORD, CT — Governor Dannel Malloy has declared Connecticut to be in a state of public health emergency, enabling the indefinite suspension of certain civil rights. State bureaucrats have been granted the broad authority to forcibly detain suspected sick people without due process. The declaration came preemptively, as Connecticut has not yet seen a single case of the virus it purports to stop.

The governor’s October 7th declaration read as follows:

“In response to the epidemic of the Ebola virus currently affecting multiple countries in western Africa, and in order to provide the Commissioner of Public Health and other appropriate officials with all authorities necessary to prevent any potential transmission of the Ebola virus within the State of Connecticut, I hereby declare a public health emergency for the State, pursuant to the Connecticut General Statutes Section 19a-131a, for the duration of the epidemic. Specifically, in accordance with Connecticut General Statutes Section 19a-131b, I authorize the Commissioner of Public Health to Order the isolation or quarantine, under conditions prescribed by the Commissioner of Public Health, of any individual or group of individuals whom the Commissioner reasonably believes to have been exposed to, infected with, or otherwise at risk of passing the Ebola virus.”

http://www.policestateusa.com/2014/connecticut-state-of-public-health-emergency/

bullshit walks...
 
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