Interrupting dark in VEG.

[Antrim]

Please help me settle this debate. I have a veg tent that runs on a 20/4 light cycle. Occasionally I wake up a little late and open the tent for less than two minutes to water my plants. I don't see how this could negatively affect my plants but my roommate seems to think I'm hurting them. He keeps bringing up the "Gas Lamp" method as "proof". I don't see how the gas lamp method pertains to this at all, besides, I feel its shaky science at best. I like to give my veg plants a short dark period. I feel the resting period helps. So is occasionally opening the tent hurting my plants? Or more importantly, is occasionally opening the tent ruining the resting period my plants get, negating the benefits of a dark period at all? Remember, this is only in veg and for a 2 min interruption during lights out. Thanks!

 

[RonSmooth]

What is the gas lamp method? Like using an actual lantern? Please explain.

Cannabis needs zero dark hours. You can run the light 24/0. I like 18/6 or 20/4 as I don't see a noticeable difference and I see it as wasteful.

Flowering is induced by long night (lights off). The chemical responsible for flowering builds up in the plant at night but ceases when the sun comes up (lights on)

When the nights get longer (autumn), the chemical builds enough to induce flowering. \

Interrupting the veg cycle does nothing because there isnt really a "veg cycle". Its just growing and waiting for the nights to get long enough to induce flowering.


There are lots of articles and books at your fingertips. Learn basic plant biology & nutrition from a non-cannabis source. Stay away from MJ specific books at first. There is just too much misinformation and anecdotal evidence, a lot of them are used to promote products or vendors.

Why rely on friends conjecture or forum anecdotes?

 

[Antrim]

Thanks for the quick reply! I have read many books but none cover this specific question. I understand it won't necessarily hurt my plants. I guess my question is, if I'm going to interrupt the 4 hours of rest for a short period, should I just throw them under 24 hours of light? I know they wont hermie or start budding but does my 2 min interruption negate the 4 hours of rest completely? The idea behind the gas lamp method is to basically put your plants in 12/12 but kick the lights on for an hour right in the middle of your dark period to prevent your plants from flowering. Just a way to save electricity I guess but I don't think there is any substantial evidence to prove the benefits of this method. I don't turn the grow lights on when I water. I just open the tent, quickly water the plants, then close up the tent. Am I ruining the 4 hour rest period by doing this?

 

[Granger2]

... but I don't think there is any substantial evidence to prove the benefits of this method. Am I ruining the 4 hour rest period by doing this?

No. And there is a 12/1 thread if you search for it. There are benefits. Good luck. -granger

 

[stevewinthrop]

Does a full moon ruin the plants growing wild on the equator?

The answer is that your friend is an idiot.

 

[stihgnobevoli]

absolute dark only matter in flower. i'm doing 12/1 right now and have been for several months. clones start to preflower. but thats about it. 12hours light, 5.5 hours dark 1 hour light, 5.5 more dark. repeat.

 

[Photorikki]

The bigger question for me is: Why would water them in the dark?

 

[resinryder]

The bigger question for me is: Why would water them in the dark?

Kinda wondering the same thing myself.

 

[stihgnobevoli]

for me it'\s because i would have been away during lights on and they need watering.

 

[stevewinthrop]

The bigger question for me is: Why would water them in the dark?

From the OP:
"Occasionally I wake up a little late and open the tent for less than two minutes to water my plants. "

He woke up after lights out, running his lights at night.

 

[Antrim]

Cause I'm a lazy weekender, to be perfectly honest. I'm working on it. Haha! I'll definitely check out that 12/1 thread. Thanks for your help guys.

 

[b3fr33]

It'll be ok in veg, just don't be interrupting them like that in flower, or you could well end up with problems

 

[FromHolland]

I would water them 2 hours after the lights are on. Just dont disturb them if they're in the flower period you might get hermaphrodite plants (I call them transsexuals )

 

[stoned-trout]

simple answer is NO... i also like 20...seems to be perfect amount of light..cant comment on diff light schedules as i like to keep it simple

 

[Antrim]

Thanks guys! I like to sleep in on the weekends and I was going to be out of the house all day so I had to get it done even though it wasn't the optimal time. On another note, I am man enough to admit when I'm wrong and as far as the "gas lamp" method goes... I was wrong. After reading a bunch of stuff on 12/1 lighting it seems that not only do people use it but some use it with great success. I don't know how I got it in my head that 12/1 was failed theory but I now stand corrected. So, sorry about that. Hey, I posted in the "New Growers" section for a reason, so I can be afforded a little slack, can't I? Hahaha! Keep up with the good advice guys!

 

[Four20omky]

"The Gas light method"

"The Gas light method"

What is the gas lamp method? Like using an actual lantern? Please explain.

Cannabis needs zero dark hours. You can run the light 24/0. I like 18/6 or 20/4 as I don't see a noticeable difference and I see it as wasteful.

Flowering is induced by long night (lights off). The chemical responsible for flowering builds up in the plant at night but ceases when the sun comes up (lights on)

When the nights get longer (autumn), the chemical builds enough to induce flowering. \

Interrupting the veg cycle does nothing because there isnt really a "veg cycle". Its just growing and waiting for the nights to get long enough to induce flowering.


There are lots of articles and books at your fingertips. Learn basic plant biology & nutrition from a non-cannabis source. Stay away from MJ specific books at first. There is just too much misinformation and anecdotal evidence, a lot of them are used to promote products or vendors.

Why rely on friends conjecture or forum anecdotes?

its 12on/5.5off/1on/5.5off

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[BoulderFarma]

I would run 18-6. That's all the energy veg plants need to stay in the vegetative stage. Or if you have 2 veg lights, you can flip one off for a couple hours a day too at diff times, kinda like a cloud passing if you running to hot.