Gorilla Glue #4
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this would be a great thread for the infirmary section.
illtake a stab though,.
im seeing three things.
i dont want to come off like the "reveg" guy and i brought this up with someone else o n here recently but.......
looking down the stem in that picture, there are leaves with 3 leaflets lower on the plant. i have some revegging gg4s and thats the only time ive seen her do that.revegging makes your plant stall. whe a plant is stalled between making flowers or leaves it uses way less nutrients and can get out of whack with burning or nute toxity or it can also cause lockout and deficiencies. it also uses less water in general because its not spitting out new fan leaves daily. so if you are feeding like you would with a normal veg plant its going to cause problems of not only overfeeding but potentially overwatering.
for me im in coco. veg plants in my room dont want feed over .8 until they are substantial and a foot tall. afterthat i rarely go over 1.0 ec.
1.2 ec is the highest i go at peak feed in flower and even then i watch runoff like a hawk because i think she just doesnt need to much more than that.
i think you are overfeeding and or overwatring causing calcium and subsequently magnesium problems.
another idea is that if your trying to deal with calmag your overdoing it and causing related lockout.
also that looks like soil whats in your soil.
do a soil slurry ec reading.
thatll tell you where youre at and you can go from there.
arer you in veg blooom temps medium and TEMPERATURE.
temps too low can casue calmag issues.
dont flush them before you do an ec reading of the liquid from a 50/50 by volume soil and water slurry test from the pots. dig in or scrape off some from the bottom if your rootball removes easily and mix equal parts by volume all you need is enought o submerge you probe into in a shot glass or something.
a revegging plant shouldnt get much more than .7 ec til its back into veg mode and even then ease into the nutes to get to a max of 1.0 in veg.
thanks for all the positive vibes guys! Taking a sample branch or two today to see what im working with! Might have to do a quick power dry to give it a go before the Giants game tonight!
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It's coco not sure how it's in reveg been under 24 hhrs light. I was feeding .8-1e****ill his happend then bumped it up I'm not sure what's really wrong anymore but i don't see any new damage from the newest growth guess I'll just let it play out thanks for the help from all
it was just a stab. i just dont see the 3 leaf on mine. im probably wrong. the 1.2 feed in veg for me was too strong last time i tried. not sure what it is then.
good luck.
Here is my Rooted bud's
. I took 4 buds off the plant when it was about 4 weeks into flower. I did not want to keep cloning to keep the genetics alive so the next beat thing to do is a slow reveg. I wanted t orun some of my seed stock. I have alot of great sees that I need to run but having my veg room filled with my clone only genetics leaves very little room for anything. So I did this.. The Tip of the razor is where another calyx is going to open with new leaves. This is the 1st one to show.. This took about 3 weeks the other 3 have still not shown anything but they do have roots.
. I took 4 buds off the plant when it was about 4 weeks into flower. I did not want to keep cloning to keep the genetics alive so the next beat thing to do is a slow reveg. I wanted t orun some of my seed stock. I have alot of great sees that I need to run but having my veg room filled with my clone only genetics leaves very little room for anything. So I did this.. The Tip of the razor is where another calyx is going to open with new leaves. This is the 1st one to show.. This took about 3 weeks the other 3 have still not shown anything but they do have roots.Here is my Rooted bud's
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I always wondered if reveging makes a plant have genetic drift or lose vigor please give us an update after you have a full run done.
my recent experience with it was taking cuttings from plants in flower then wanting more cuts a few days later and doing again. then a few days later, on and on til i pushed into the second week. pretty much everything after day 3 started dropping down to 3 and 1 leaflet leave formations and stalling in limbo between. then it let a few really strange leaves and started slowly working its way back to 5 leaves again all from the calyxs it had started to form. in the cloner not growing new leaves it wasnt obvious and even grew a few more normal ooking leaves it probably had grown all tucked in micro leaflet from before it made the switch. it wasnt til 2 or 3 weeks after i took the cuttings so i kinda forgot and freaked out when i started seeing the new branches hairballing out of the nodes with mutant flower leaves. they eventually turned but i straight up panicked for a second. then i noticed the three leaflets anfd then the singles and suddenly remembered the ill advised technique i used against my own better judgement.
I have herd the opposite. Taking plants and reveging them adds vigor back to the genetics thats what I herd. cant say if its true. I have revegged many plants of various strains. 1st time for gg#4. I Never noticed any decline in any part of the gene pool. All where the same as plants that where from a normal clone.
dna and rna don't degrade. they are as present in a seed as they are in a revegged plant..the only variable is environmentally induced phenotypes
I don't normally flower a plant that's revegging. That's just me I know many that do.. I grow it out completely take cuts that are back to normal then veg and flower those cuts. This cut is from the Original 12/2012 release. I have other cuts from others I don't know the origins of.. I want to see if there's any diff from the Original.. IMO I should not see any major differences.
i tend to agree. ive never seen gentic drift and ive never seen old cloned varieties change over time like people would have you believe. revegged clones ive very little experience with but they small amount ive seen work great. highlife harvested a big ass vert plant stuck it in veg and revegged it back out all big as shit flowered it into a 5 pound plant indoors. ive seen decades old cuts pass generation to generation cut of a cut of a cut new mom every round for years that are to this day identical to the day i first saw it.
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Probably just down to a dialled environment, 400v lights etc. The spot where that was grown was roughly around 1300 feet above sea level so not that high up really considering.
Frank IMHO the buds did stack as you can clearly see calyx build up on the lower nugs around the tops stacking/nippling/foxtail. In that run she was grown in 7.5 ltr pots (was running 2 at the same time and had almost identical results in terms of yield) and pulled in 3 n half 0z per plant dry. The nugs are dense and have surprised a few peeps with there weight and density.
The nutrient formula is 100% organic along with the soil and never mess around with silly boosters. I also run a foliar regime too.
In my opinion if I we're to grow her in a 11-18 ltr pot she would be a bigger chunkier version and pull around 8-10 Oz.
Thanks for the comments Frank
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the only thing i can say is environment does change things a bit.. i changed my houses a while back.. and in that. my room environment was different.. and i had some plants express alot of amazing qualities.. they didnt show at the old place..
Yeah, not knocking them...they look great. Was just making an observation. They did stack - they just didn't "fill out" like I am used to seeing...
I think your right in saying it is a result of smaller root mass in general...1 gallon is not a very large root mass. I've noticed a lack of fullness in flowers that I've grown in smaller containers as well - and it certainly alters expression.
It was in no way an jab at you or your flowers - was just curious to establish the difference in your set up that got that expression to surface like so...you know, just learning.
They certainly had a beautiful fade and I bet they smoke great!!
dank.Frank
The GG4 hates to be in small pots. Especially 1's.
She certainly will reward you with much more flower when she has the leg room.
She certainly will reward you with much more flower when she has the leg room.
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