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[Backyard Farmer]

It's important to stay mentally flexible

 

[Bulldog420]

What difference did you notice? I actually think I said why a few posts ago. Would you rather buy from a company that continues ti improve whe new data comes in or one that does not.

Less B....right?

If bio ad ever gets sap analysis expect it to change also. Why wouldn't it?

I read your post about high levels of B, and I must admit I have noticed it on my plants. I was advised to hit the rejuvenate and MicroPak hard since my soil was depleted in these areas. Now I notice what looks like a cal/mg burn on the largest sun leaves. I have backed off now.

As for what is different with the MicroPak, it isn't the Boron levels. It is Molybdenum, a change from 6% to 3%. I wish they would give a report as to why they changed the levels, so I know what to look for.

Anybody else sticking with the AEA program instead of Biological Advantage?

 

[Backyard Farmer]

Do you realize that BA is a blend of AEA and Tainio products in the ideal about s for cannabis?

 

[Bulldog420]

Why do you claim such claims? How did they arrive at this? What tests were done to predict the needs of cannabis plants? Is that indica or sativa? What is in the bottles?

Are you also claiming that the normal AEA lineup isn't designed around cannabis? You have been jocking AEA for some time, yet you think the normal AEA lineup isn't as good as an untested product?

Why would I want to buy from an asshole rep, be the ginny pig in testing the new cannabis formula that is probably overpriced now because it's catering to the ganja biz? If you have any actual information other than Bio AD is the next level shit, I am all ears.

 

[Backyard Farmer]

Im curious why you think the BA line isn't tested?

Myself and a few other growers on this site tested the line for quite some time. Some test growers used tissue and sap analysis and reported back and the formula was adjusted over time.

Biological Advantage is a blend of most of the products you're already using and price per application is extremly affordable.

 

[Bulldog420]

What is the sample group, 5 growers? That is what you call tested? How many sap analysis were reported? 10? That isn't a tested product IMO.

You claim the product is extremely affordable, you have any information on this for the rest of us?

My biggest question I would love for you to answer is, how do you know this line is better for cannabis? You say it's been tested, by how many? Where can the rest of us find this statistical information so we can draw our own conclusions? My trust with you left a long time ago, not going to take your word on it. Since you collect a pay check from AEA, my trust is nowhere in sight.

 

[milkyjoe]

So 2 days of serious cold ass thunderstorms here and 3 more predicted. I sprayed all my plants with the fungal rescue remedy...only I subbed shield for the pht-ca and p. Ought to be a serious test, especially on the cherry pie. Stuff is really dense

 

[cannascholar]

Bulldog, I sampled some BA grown bud and it was some of the best dep I've seen. It's a new product but the AEA folks know what they're doing, probably more so than any other canna nute company.

I collect no pay checks but will be buying plenty to improve my production and quality.

Doing the fungal remedy as well, going light on ca and seacrop only because I'm almost out. Replacing micro5000 with Pz1000 for pk boost. Including seashield at 3 oz per gallon and pepzyme at 2ml.

 

[Backyard Farmer]

You don't have to buy BA , it was designed to bring the plants to their genetic potential. That means more oils etc.,

 

[Bulldog420]

What a cop out. Fine, don't answer any questions. BTW, you don't have to tell me "you don't have to buy BA", I already know that.

I can think of thousand of products that claim to do what your claiming, "designed to bring the plants to their genetic potential. That means more oils etc". How many of us has heard this in the canna game...... I will stop asking questions, because obviously you don't have the answers even though you pretend you do.

 

[milkyjoe]

The difference would be some of us have experienced it. Best weed I ever grew...who knows what that means...but definetly an improvement for me. Every one that tried it felt like my og hits like bho. Again, a sample of one but I will be doing bio ag in the soil plus a few aea products foliar. I really don't give a fuck who believes what...I ain't got a dog in the pie

 

[Bulldog420]

Bulldog, I sampled some BA grown bud and it was some of the best dep I've seen. It's a new product but the AEA folks know what they're doing, probably more so than any other canna nute company.

I collect no pay checks but will be buying plenty to improve my production and quality.

Doing the fungal remedy as well, going light on ca and seacrop only because I'm almost out. Replacing micro5000 with Pz1000 for pk boost. Including seashield at 3 oz per gallon and pepzyme at 2ml.

Thank you for the response. I agree that AEA is full of great products, I just don't see why one would switch to the BA, and nobody can really say why either.

Your buddy that grew BA on his deps is the kind of feedback I would love. I would love to hear how your buddy applied these products, and his entire experience. To counter what you said, I have some buddies that their light dep turned out fantastic. Best I have seen in 5 years. They only feed with tea's.

Just looking for some more information on why BA is good, because AEA's normal line up seems to have more control. 10 bottles to combat deficiencies instead of two. BA seems like the dumbed down version of AEA's normal program.

The difference would be some of us have experienced it. Best weed I ever grew...who knows what that means...but definetly an improvement for me. Every one that tried it felt like my og hits like bho. Again, a sample of one but I will be doing bio ag in the soil plus a few aea products foliar. I really don't give a fuck who believes what...I ain't got a dog in the pie

I would love to try some of that OG, sounds amazing. Glad things are working out for you. Thanks for teaching others how you arrive at your success.

 

[ROOTWISE]

I'll pledge a side-by-side using BA for next year using one of each cultivar I've been growing for 4 years. I'm still using the "Balanced Soil, PPD, Cal25" regiment. I did employ photomag foliar from late stretch on this year and like it. I don't know anybody else in CO pulling a 8.75 unit average. My largest Alien Dawg was over 11.5 units last year. But I ain't scared to see if my yield and quality can be improved upon, that's how I got here in the first place. I will say that all the techie talk spew surrounding this shit reminds me of a friggin cult and is a bit of a turn-off. And yes, I have driven plant vigor using foliars and brix levels. Let's see how this stuff holds up. Tell their rep I'll see if the proof is in the pudding.

 

[Bulldog420]

I would pay for your nutes, free promotion for AEA.

This is what I would like to see, side by sides. I did a side by side with two OG twists and two cherry pies. One plant of each variety got my normal regimen that sounds a lot like Rootwises. The other, AEA products. The plants not treated with AEA products have been outperforming the AEA plants, however I wasn't using the AEA regimen correctly for a while and compromised my experiment.

 

[Backyard Farmer]

What a cop out. Fine, don't answer any questions. BTW, you don't have to tell me "you don't have to buy BA", I already know that.

I can think of thousand of products that claim to do what your claiming, "designed to bring the plants to their genetic potential. That means more oils etc". How many of us has heard this in the canna game...... I will stop asking questions, because obviously you don't have the answers even though you pretend you do.

Literally answered this question 100 times for you. It's the correct blend of inputs to do so. It isn't with nitrates or a fancy label. It's usong the same products you are already using in a way that you don't need all the individual bottles. Balanced soil plus BA you'll gorw the best you ever have.

I'll be happy to pm any one the contact info for the BA people on the west coast.

 

[Bulldog420]

Why do you say crap like that byf? I already asked for those contacts and you denied me. Why would you now write something like that? You are so fake it's incredible. When you do things like that, it makes me think you only care about what others think about you.

You "literally" haven't answered anything. I asked how many people were involved in this program to make "the correct blend of inputs to do so?" You can't answer, because you don't know anything. Instead you say things like a hydro store salesman, "designed to bring the plants to their genetic potential. That means more oils etc.,"

Please stop with the bs you know is bs. Have some integrity.

It's against site policy to discuss PM's that the other party doesn't agree to. If BYF agrees, I have plenty of PM's proving everything I have been saying. Can I post those up BYF?

 

[cannascholar]

Some purple Durban grown with ba light dep. Looks identical to fire indoor with lots of large trichromes and impressive flavor. Can't wait to achieve this myself.

 

[Bulldog420]

Yea, that is some DANK! No doubt.

 

[ROOTWISE]

WTF is a "trichrome"?

 

[cannascholar]

Please stop muddling this thread with bs. If you like what you're doing, keep doing it and leave those who want to bring their gardens to full potential alone.