dr. greenthumb

[NEGT1]

If the clones he uses are legitimate than I don't really see the issues with him. Where else can someone buy legitimate s1's of those strains without having to dive deep into the realms of the internet? I could care less about his iranian auto's or crossss (other than the bubba og and his version of headband).

You either pay what he asks or don't, but I don't see a quality issue here.

Probably going to try his ecsd at some point. That said, if you aren't interested in the s1's he offers it's understandable why one wouldn't think he's anything special. If I could get clones of what he has, of course I would pass on s1;s.

 

[BadRabbit]

He is selling the seed company? Where did you learn this? What is the asking price? Lots of good genetics, but the name isn't in great standing! I'm guessing he senses once legal pot comes, his current business model will fail.

Hey SOF, His notice of intent to sell is published on his own website on the home page.

I wouldn't mind keys to the vault, but if the guy charges $100 for a single seed, I can just imagine what he'll want for the company .... har!

 

[BadRabbit]

If the clones he uses are legitimate than I don't really see the issues with him. Where else can someone buy legitimate s1's of those strains without having to dive deep into the realms of the internet? I could care less about his iranian auto's or crossss (other than the bubba og and his version of headband).

You either pay what he asks or don't, but I don't see a quality issue here.

Probably going to try his ecsd at some point. That said, if you aren't interested in the s1's he offers it's understandable why one wouldn't think he's anything special. If I could get clones of what he has, of course I would pass on s1;s.

Well, I found problems with his product, his customer service and his ridiculous pricing.

Other than that, yup, he's great.

 

[BadRabbit]

he was caught out few years ago on gs i think for using shill/puppet accounts. in my own experience i know for a 100% fact that he does it - iran auto flowers was called iranian short season- he had multiple accounts posting grows claiming to be irish, talking to them all and they all spouted shit, they were posting pics with plants in the background that didnt grow here and swore blind that they actually had bales of promix send over here......fucking idiot.


would still grab a few packs of seeds still though tbh....

Google him and you get a lot of great grows with his dr. g. stuff/name tagged .... but if you look closely, you'll see that there's a small handful of posters who have sprayed the same photos/grow onto every single pot forum on the web, large and small ....

I asked one of those guys about that coincidence after he posted one dr g. grow on at least 20 sites, suggested he looked a little bit like a shill for a seed company .... dude went absolutley bat shit on me, so pissed off he must have written 3 pages of invective and hate at me for even suggesting such a thing - which pretty much confirmed my suspicions.

He may have some good genetics but he's a shithead to deal with, charges prices that are insane and wants out of the business asap .... clear enough to me.

 

[SeedsOfFreedom]

ECSD didn't come from NY, and has littlle to do with NYCD other than Soma selling marketing.

Where is ECSD from then? Obviously the east coast?

 

[rhinoman 1]

Where is ECSD from then? Obviously the east coast?

It's a mid west thing .

 

[stasis]

Sounds like another pollen chucker pretending to be a scientist

 

[BadRabbit]

Sounds like another pollen chucker pretending to be a scientist

I think there's maybe more to him than that ... there's some history behind his genetic sources and he does have some track record out there.

My guess is he needs (needed) someone to front the business, and manage the marketing while keeping the azzhole tech in the back room managing plants and away from customers.

 

[oldsod]

So much controversy! I have grown out numerous Dr. Greenthumb strains and like someone in an earlier post, no hermies in the S1s and that included Chem, OG, Bubba, ECSD. Trainwreck is supposed to be a hermie nightmare but I didn't have in hermies in mine. I just finished the Girl Scout Cookies and it is in the jars. Chunky, hard, golf balls of purple, sour smelling buds. Looks just like the ad in Skunk Magazine. Uncured smoke is STRONG.

I have spoken to Doc several times on the phone and never found him to be cranky. To- the-point maybe and no time for messing around but spent as much time as I needed answering my questions and was in no hurry. Maybe he's just cranky with assholes.

I used to think his prices were high until I spent months on other peoples nightmare S1s. You want expensive? Spend 4 months of your time on hermie junk and a LOT of whats out there is nothing more than hermie junk. The only strain I got from Greenthumb I didn't like much was F35. The rest were ALL keepers and if I had the room I'd have kept them all.

 

[NEGT1]

Where is ECSD from then? Obviously the east coast?

Jersey but probably near NYC. In a sense it's from around the NYC area I suppose, but not NY.

 

[SeedsOfFreedom]

So much controversy! I have grown out numerous Dr. Greenthumb strains and like someone in an earlier post, no hermies in the S1s and that included Chem, OG, Bubba, ECSD. Trainwreck is supposed to be a hermie nightmare but I didn't have in hermies in mine. I just finished the Girl Scout Cookies and it is in the jars. Chunky, hard, golf balls of purple, sour smelling buds. Looks just like the ad in Skunk Magazine. Uncured smoke is STRONG.

I have spoken to Doc several times on the phone and never found him to be cranky. To- the-point maybe and no time for messing around but spent as much time as I needed answering my questions and was in no hurry. Maybe he's just cranky with assholes.

I used to think his prices were high until I spent months on other peoples nightmare S1s. You want expensive? Spend 4 months of your time on hermie junk and a LOT of whats out there is nothing more than hermie junk. The only strain I got from Greenthumb I didn't like much was F35. The rest were ALL keepers and if I had the room I'd have kept them all.

S1s are S1s , the clone used will decide if the seeds are hermie. A breeder can not breed for, or against intersex when there is only a single clone to start(Any S1!). There is no selection with S1s.

If the mother(which is also the pollen donor) carries hermie genetics, then the resulting seeds will have some intersex. No breeder can change that.

You would have to make selections(S2s,etc) to overcome intersex in progeny. Then they would sell the line as the S2 or S3 or whatever.

 

[BadRabbit]

So much controversy! I have grown out numerous Dr. Greenthumb strains and like someone in an earlier post, no hermies in the S1s and that included Chem, OG, Bubba, ECSD. Trainwreck is supposed to be a hermie nightmare but I didn't have in hermies in mine. I just finished the Girl Scout Cookies and it is in the jars. Chunky, hard, golf balls of purple, sour smelling buds. Looks just like the ad in Skunk Magazine. Uncured smoke is STRONG.

I have spoken to Doc several times on the phone and never found him to be cranky. To- the-point maybe and no time for messing around but spent as much time as I needed answering my questions and was in no hurry. Maybe he's just cranky with assholes.

I used to think his prices were high until I spent months on other peoples nightmare S1s. You want expensive? Spend 4 months of your time on hermie junk and a LOT of whats out there is nothing more than hermie junk. The only strain I got from Greenthumb I didn't like much was F35. The rest were ALL keepers and if I had the room I'd have kept them all.

Um ... who was complaining about hermies?

I didn't get any hermies on my bubba OB .... I didn't get any plants worth a nickel either. Then I had mister snotty to deal with.

Glad you got good results ... some of us didn't and it might be good for the community to know that if you spend $100 per seed with this asshole, you just might get screwed.

 

[oldsod]

Well your results seem to run contrary to all the of folks who've grown and posted about Bubba OG who rave about it. I thought it was a very good plant and the bubba dom pheno is amazing but that's just me.

 

[oldsod]

S1s are S1s , the clone used will decide if the seeds are hermie. A breeder can not breed for, or against intersex when there is only a single clone to start(Any S1!). There is no selection with S1s.

If the mother(which is also the pollen donor) carries hermie genetics, then the resulting seeds will have some intersex. No breeder can change that.

You would have to make selections(S2s,etc) to overcome intersex in progeny. Then they would sell the line as the S2 or S3 or whatever.

Not so sure about that anymore. Saw someone talking about this the other day at another forum. Doc Greenthumb has been around a long time, maybe he knows something you don't

'Why Plant Clones Aren't Identical'

http://www.ox.ac.uk/media/news_stories/2011/110729.html

 

[oldsod]

Um ... who was complaining about hermies?

I didn't get any hermies on my bubba OB .... I didn't get any plants worth a nickel either. Then I had mister snotty to deal with.

Glad you got good results ... some of us didn't and it might be good for the community to know that if you spend $100 per seed with this asshole, you just might get screwed.

Well your results seem to run contrary to all the of folks who've grown and posted about Bubba OG who rave about it. I thought it was a very good plant and the bubba dom pheno is amazing but that's just me. Bubba OG is not $100 a seed; did you actually grow it at all or is this just a hate rant??

 

[BadRabbit]

Well your results seem to run contrary to all the of folks who've grown and posted about Bubba OG who rave about it. I thought it was a very good plant and the bubba dom pheno is amazing but that's just me.

"all the folks" were 3 guys who reposted their grow with very slight changes at every pot forum on the web .... the idiot "Doc Gruber" (not suspicious at all, nope) posted his stuff to at least 20 sites including individual med state sites.

I know it's easy to get fooled by some seed sellers, but this one's not that hard to spot.

 

[BadRabbit]

Well your results seem to run contrary to all the of folks who've grown and posted about Bubba OG who rave about it. I thought it was a very good plant and the bubba dom pheno is amazing but that's just me. Bubba OG is not $100 a seed; did you actually grow it at all or is this just a hate rant??

The Bubba is $100 per seed genuis.


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Others cost less ... ALL are exorbitantly expensive and there ain't now way around that fact Doc. (Yes, it's that obvious and lame)

Yes, I did grow bubba OG, I got 6 out of 6 germination. The veg plants looked great, the buds were painfully disappointing ... little or no distinctive flavor and less that medium potency. I'll be happy to post pictures, but guess what, you can't judge a plant's flavor or potency from pics .... and you'd still argue about it because you're just trying to stick up for your own rep.

Nice try though.

 

[BadRabbit]

Well your results seem to run contrary to all the of folks who've grown and posted about Bubba OG who rave about it. I thought it was a very good plant and the bubba dom pheno is amazing but that's just me. Bubba OG is not $100 a seed; did you actually grow it at all or is this just a hate rant??

And by the way ... I just looked up all of "oldsod" posts on icmag. While there are not a lot of them, pretty much EVERY single one ..... SHOCK!... is either promoting doc greenthumb genetics or trying to pee on his competition ... while then mentioning how great doc greenthumb stuff is.

 

[BadRabbit]

"all the folks" were 3 guys who reposted their grow with very slight changes at every pot forum on the web .... the idiot "Doc Gruber" (not suspicious at all, nope) posted his stuff to at least 20 sites including individual med state sites.

I know it's easy to get fooled by some seed sellers, but this one's not that hard to spot.

And by the way, on one forum, Doc Gruber threw a huge hissy fit when a suggested he actually was just doc greenthumb shilling for his seeds.... really had a little girl meltdown about it.

Then I got a private PM from Doc Greenthumb himself who posts on the site occassionaly saying "Actually, yes I am". This message went "poof" as soon as I tried to capture and repost it.

What a turd.

 

[NEGT1]

The Bubba is $100 per seed genuis.


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Others cost less ... ALL are exorbitantly expensive and there ain't now way around that fact Doc. (Yes, it's that obvious and lame)

Yes, I did grow bubba OG, I got 6 out of 6 germination. The veg plants looked great, the buds were painfully disappointing ... little or no distinctive flavor and less that medium potency. I'll be happy to post pictures, but guess what, you can't judge a plant's flavor or potency from pics .... and you'd still argue about it because you're just trying to stick up for your own rep.

Nice try though.

I believe there are 3 seeds in the Bubba packs.

Once again though, it seems he has legit cuts, so for anyone who simply wants legit s1' I don't see the issue. Sorry if you didn't get anything good out of 6.

Personally I would have never jumped on anything he does that isn't an S1, tons of great breeders working more stable lines.