"Live Resin"

[UNREGISTRD]

Anyone have any comments on Live Resin? What exactly is Live resin?
According to a couple of IG people it looks like nothing different than Freezing your material and blasting at subcool temps through your dewax.. Supposably this is NEW TECH?

Am i missing something here... Or is this Hype at its finest??

 

[BrainChild]

I reckon they call it live resin because the resin is frozen while still alive. I think this is people freezing the fresh materiel in LN2 or dry ice and then exacting. I've only tried freezing freshly cut material in a regular freezer...the yield was small, but the oil was really tasty and terpy. I'm not sure the effects of a deeper freeze, but maybe it would tie up more moisture and allow for a better extraction.

 

[BlazinPurps]

I have extracted fresh frozen trim, I held the tube in the back of the freezer while packing it to make sure the trim did not thaw and form an ice block in my tube and kept it in there in a bag till extraction. A different texture for sure kind of like gooey crumble and the terps were definitely stronger. My yield was very tiny though and I did get a little water in the extraction. I imagine there is probably a better way to extract live then spraying through a tube. Not really for me though the improvement was not worth the loss of yield IMO.

 

[cyphaman]

correct, similar to fresh frozen with bubble hash (water hash) Live Resin is an incredible way of capturing the up to 60% of the plants Terpene content that is lost while using traditional drying / curing techniques.

Holy Water, is the name of some stuff from a company who has pretty much mastered this. It has been said that the terps from this, and the flav is just incredible.

http://www.medicaljane.com/2014/07/...future-of-terpene-rich-cannabis-concentrates/

 

[Gray Wolf]

Oil from fresh cut plants is highly aromatic and the word most often chosen by several different unassociated student test panels sampling it, was "Fresh."

I personally like it a lot, but note that the extra terpenes, some of which are expectorants, do increase the cough index, while aromatic and tasty are good descriptions, smoooooth isn't.

If you fancy trying it, check out Jump 117's thread on fresh extraction in the Sticky section.

 

[JColtrane]

Jump117's threads were one of the reason's I started to mess around with pulling cannabis apart ... I miss that guy

 

[JointOperation]

did a thermos soak on fresh picked buds.. dried only for 3 days . and it came out great.. but I prefer a slow dried and a few days in jars at the least.. at max 12 days in jars..

the taste is weird to me.. tastes fresh but weird fresh... lots of terpenes. great look .. but not much different then just chillin butane and putting tubes packed in the freezer with dry bud..

me.. ill stick to slow dry.. 2-10 days in jars.. and then blow..

put it this way. you know how when u slowly dry a harvest.. and put it In jars.. how after a few days it starts to really STInk.. it doesn't smell or taste like that at all.. it smells an tastes like finger hash from live plants.. charas.. its deff great stuff.. just not my preferred method..

just my 2 cents.

 

[HashoftheTitans]

I have gotten great results by clipping buds onto dry ice and making a slurry of butane and DI for a few hours then filtering. Good yields and the best color and flavor of anything I've ever made.

 

[Permacultuure]

Jump117's threads were one of the reason's I started to mess around with pulling cannabis apart ... I miss that guy

True that!! Amber Absolute Banana Boy......lit my fire! Its great to go back and re read and watch the evolution of extraction happen, before the mag got so watered down.

Sorry I diverse

 

[Pangea]

I have gotten great results by clipping buds onto dry ice and making a slurry of butane and DI for a few hours then filtering. Good yields and the best color and flavor of anything I've ever made.

That sounds great, are you winterizing?

 

[HashoftheTitans]

That sounds great, are you winterizing?

no... dont want to lose those terps. i freeze on dry ice overnight and then filter off the wax that i can.

 

[NEGT1]

Well since we're talking about it.

Main reason I do "sub zero" is because of fresh frozen, not as a shortcut to winterization. If the material isn't frozen then the moisture is moved around inside the tube and then frozen, creating blocks and gaps that aren't touched. And if it's not frozen, it will work its way into the oil creating those cracks during a dab when it's not purged long enough to remove water moisture.

That said, usually would prefer dried and cured but when I mix dry and cured 1:1 with fresh frozen I simply find that doing frozen extracts works the best, but again, it's not a winterization method. (whether or not one is needed is up to you)

I also have a theory that these week long purges are only removing small amounts of water moisture an little to nothing in terms of tane's BUT I cannot test anything so...

 

[NEGT1]

Personally I've found some strains taste better when extracted from fresh frozen (whether it's nug, larf, or trim), and some taste better with a proper dry and cure. A cut of Hashberry I run taste significantly better (imo) when run fresh while most OG's (imo) are better when dried and cured properly. Why? Is it all just opinion and preference? Probably. The final product comes out just as fine, and the yield is just as fine when running fresh frozen.

If you use tubes, pack them when the material is frozen. That is an absolute must, the frozen moisture is spread evenly, if you pack the tubes with fresh, unfrozen material the moisture will create pockets and mess with the extraction.

In all honesty though it's mostly preference for taste, more often than not I prefer the dried/cured runs.

As Gray Wolf said, try it. A fresh frozen nug run is certainly different.

I'll also add, pure sugar leaf trim I always go 100% fresh frozen, there seems to be solid benefits of doing frozen trim in my opinion. More so than a nug run anyways, where the differences are seemingly less noticeable.

 

[JointOperation]

I winterize outdoors.. and trim.. but not indoor nug runs.. just freeze tubes and cans butane..

anyone using the big canisters. from that eco site for butane propane and all those goodies in biggg clean cans?

 

[KiefSweat]

i'm not impressed with "live resin" thats mass produced, small batches tend to come out well, but a lot of whats sold turns into a sugar wax. Everyone else seems to enjoy it but i find it to be rather harsh and a lot of the flavors have been the same to me.

 

[JointOperation]

just did a small run again on live .. dried with a fan for 10 hours.. so that there was no moisture on the very outside of the nugs..

chopped into small pieces.. and tossed in freezer.. then packed.. and refroze..

and then blew after 48 hours of being in freezer.

the FRESH taste that everyone seems to like.. is harsh to me.. I don't like it at all.. honestly.. the earliest I will process from now on.. is after a slow dry.. and a few days in jars.. then blow.. the EARLIEST.. the taste and smell from dried vs live.. isn't as nice as I thought it would be live.. honestly.. I thought live. .maybe less extracts of some things .. and nope.. It came out super light colored.. smells alright.. but I prefer the smell and taste of slow dried and a tiny amount of cure time..

but I just made another batch for a friend.. some nug run.. and this shit is just as light as the live.. but smells and tastes soo much better..

ill wait.. lol. I think live plant extracts.. are for the dudes who are just trying to get there money ASAP..

its like smoking shit that wasn't dried properly.. and is still moist.. its harsh.. and weird tasting.. and smell is ehh..

that's the best description I can give.. if u don't like smoking quick dried bud.. or wetter bud.. then u might not like live extracts lol..

 

[Gray Wolf]

just did a small run again on live .. dried with a fan for 10 hours.. so that there was no moisture on the very outside of the nugs..

chopped into small pieces.. and tossed in freezer.. then packed.. and refroze..

and then blew after 48 hours of being in freezer.

the FRESH taste that everyone seems to like.. is harsh to me.. I don't like it at all.. honestly.. the earliest I will process from now on.. is after a slow dry.. and a few days in jars.. then blow.. the EARLIEST.. the taste and smell from dried vs live.. isn't as nice as I thought it would be live.. honestly.. I thought live. .maybe less extracts of some things .. and nope.. It came out super light colored.. smells alright.. but I prefer the smell and taste of slow dried and a tiny amount of cure time..

but I just made another batch for a friend.. some nug run.. and this shit is just as light as the live.. but smells and tastes soo much better..

ill wait.. lol. I think live plant extracts.. are for the dudes who are just trying to get there money ASAP..

its like smoking shit that wasn't dried properly.. and is still moist.. its harsh.. and weird tasting.. and smell is ehh..

that's the best description I can give.. if u don't like smoking quick dried bud.. or wetter bud.. then u might not like live extracts lol..

There can be just toooo tooooo much of a good thang!

Excluding chlorophyll, it is the monoterpenes that give fresh cannabis both its delightful taste and its harshness.

When you extract and concentrate the diterpene cannabioids, you also extract and concentrate the mono and sesqi-terpenes, soooo some strains are more suited than others and you may need to vacuum off a few terpenes to tone down the harshness.

Without fail, every volunteer student test panel that sampled the fresh extractions they watched done in class, raved over it.

We didn't however extract any of the strains that cause you to look around for an aging unflushed toilet when entering the flower room, and can easily see where such a fresh extraction could go awry.

 

[Photosynthesis]

Let's see how close we can get to making bubble hash without making bubble hash.

Lose the petrochemicals, and just make ice wax.

 

[Hashmasta-Kut]

its without fail hashheads come in oil threads, and advocate that we do what they do, but i have very rarely seen posts if ever, of oil lovers coming into hash threads and telling them to make oil. quite the double standard.

 

[NEGT1]

There can be just toooo tooooo much of a good thang!

Excluding chlorophyll, it is the monoterpenes that give fresh cannabis both its delightful taste and its harshness.

When you extract and concentrate the diterpene cannabioids, you also extract and concentrate the mono and sesqi-terpenes, soooo some strains are more suited than others and you may need to vacuum off a few terpenes to tone down the harshness.

Without fail, every volunteer student test panel that sampled the fresh extractions they watched done in class, raved over it.

We didn't however extract any of the strains that cause you to look around for an aging unflushed toilet when entering the flower room, and can easily see where such a fresh extraction could go awry.

Awesome info