Mexican Bag Seed vs. High End Seeds

[anikas88]

ive grown out bagseed before and some of them turned out awesome, but i did find a very beautiful incredible sativa dominate plant one time that the high was incredible, soaring yet no anxiety very clear headed but at the same got my mind racing, i didnt keep clones but know i kind of wish i would

 

[dkmonk]

I have had amazing success growing bag seed from when I use to buy large amounts of brick, some of the most unique weed in the high department has come from a stash of about 50 seeds I saved.

 

[Archangel]

I grew a bagseed back in 08, it was hairy and stank like dirty hair until you broke it up then it was lemon skunk smell. I dont think I took it long enough cause at about a month of smoking it and other strains it didnt get me as high.

 

[WelderDan]

Back in the day, we got great commercial Mex and Colombian, and the weed we grew from the seeded bud was excellent. Some of that stuff would ring your bell, and I mean it.

I still pop a few beans from mexi-brick now and then, and I still find some really nice plants.

The greed of Cartels causes growers to cut, dry, compress and ship their product quickly to meet demand. My guess is that if greed wasn't a factor, we'd still be seeing some great Mex.

 

[supermanlives]

simple answer is yes.theres alot of breeding going on too. no matter what people think.i live real close to mexico. my friend who deals with them is always giving me seeds to try. and i have found some real keepers that are really good. alot depends on the source i would guess my friend gets better than average stuff.

 

[stihgnobevoli]

i dunno i have only ever grown out bagseed and it has so far been better than almost everything i've ever bought and smoked. im doing a grow now with some bagseeds, a sativa clone and some dgs g13 from seed. i will finally be able to answer this question for myself.

 

[AZrezbuds]

Gotta love bagseed

Gotta love bagseed

2 different keepers out of 8 female stunners

 

[Numba1]

All I've ever grown is regular bagseeds I had some chronic seeds when I got here but they were confiscated and I only had like four seeds from a qp I smoked while in Los Angeles I'm way Leary of ordering seeds so I have not done that I want to get some trademark stuff though .you know that stuff that some body like me spent their whole life developing so future generations would have good smoke without having to grow ten thousand plants searching for traits I really appreciate those guys hard work even if it's just a novelty item because that's all weed is anyways a novelty similar to candy bars or beer or coffee.

 

[stihgnobevoli]

i forgot all about this thread thanks for bumping it up. several years later i've been growing mostly the gifts i received in 2011+

i've tried several strains some of which i listed grow report for in my sig.

all in all i would say in all honestly they're about the same to bred stock being a little better as far as reliability is concerned.
what i mean by that is with bred seeds someone has already hopefully done their work and eliminated as much unwanted genes from the pool. phenos are always a crapshoot unless you're dealing with IBL's most people fail to realize.

aside from knowing that all the seeds in a bred line are gonna be *similar* not identical to whatever the original mom is, there's nothing wrong with bagseed and there is actually gonna be more variety than a bred line if you're into that type of thing. once i finish my obligations with a couple more test grows i'm going back to my bagseeds.

 

[FullyMeltedDome]

Yeah,i grew out some real Columbian Gold Beans my Brother had from the 70's.Alot of good mid and brick bud can turnout some Sweet Med's! Was some nice Bud before it was turned into rockhard square brown bricks of moldy bud that was left outside to dry during a rain storm ...Peace and Stay Safe,DWW

 

[thatonedude]

so I know that the weed from central and south America has been acclimated for a few hundred years now, but where was it introduced from? im guessing mostly African sativas.

when you think about it weren't all strains from landrace sources?

 

[AlchemySeeds]

From my understanding, the whole Chem and OG lines came from bagseeds.

One thing to watch out for according to your climate is that a lot of brickweed Mexican is acclimated to grow, and more importantly bloom, much closer to the equator. Can be a problem growing outdoors further North.

The other thing we are often not aware of when growing smaller numbers is that even the supposedly stable name brand seeds vary widely in phenotypes and traits. This problem is compounded in attempts to F2 our fave strains.

Basically, growing from seeds with the current state of the art is a bit of a genetic crapshoot. The odds though are improved using good breeding stock.

If you want consistency go with S1's or clones.

 

[thatonedude]

From my understanding, the whole Chem and OG lines came from bagseeds.

One thing to watch out for according to your climate is that a lot of brickweed Mexican is acclimated to grow, and more importantly bloom, much closer to the equator. Can be a problem growing outdoors further North.

The other thing we are often not aware of when growing smaller numbers is that even the supposedly stable name brand seeds vary widely in phenotypes and traits. This problem is compounded in attempts to F2 our fave strains.

Basically, growing from seeds with the current state of the art is a bit of a genetic crapshoot. The odds though are improved using good breeding stock.

If you want consistency go with S1's or clones.

yes proven getetics will produce exactly what they are proven to produce. but simply growing smoke isn't as rewarding to the hobbyist as creating new crosses from scratch. its cheaper too.

 

[St. Phatty]

I am sitting here smoking on some seeded mexican sativa and realizing that I am fucking HIGH as hell. I hate the smell, taste and seeded bud BUT I have to admit it is pretty potent stuff and the quality of the high is great as well.

So,

Do you think Mexican Brick Sativas can and do rival Seed Bank bought seeds?

Congratulations on your fine buzz. I'm not being sarcastic, really !

I too like Mexican Sativa, my most intimate relationship being with one I called Skunk Sativa. I had recently moved to San Diego and got a batch of mersh from a friend. Not super grate mersh but it had seeds !

Being slightly desperate, I used space in a public storage space. Actually I made a sealed 4 foot cube, 2 of them. I got a little carried away.

Anyway, I started about 100 seeds. One of them stood out big time. By the time I got a place where I could grow ... I forget what happened.


So HECK YEAH Mexican mersh can yield some good seeds. I'm sure the same is true of other South American imports.

 

[amannamedtruth]

so I know that the weed from central and south America has been acclimated for a few hundred years now, but where was it introduced from? im guessing mostly African sativas.

when you think about it weren't all strains from landrace sources?

I've read that they came to the carribean came from the Indian sub-continent with sugar cane plantation workers, and that it came from to central and S. America likely from North Africa and the Mediterranean, so S. American land races were probably originally hybrids of Indian and African genetics.

 

[ThaiBliss]

I am sitting here smoking on some seeded mexican sativa and realizing that I am fucking HIGH as hell. I hate the smell, taste and seeded bud BUT I have to admit it is pretty potent stuff and the quality of the high is great as well.

What are your thoughts on this? And NO I am not talking about seeded seed bank quality but actual outdoor mexican cartel brickweed type of smoke.

I tossed some pollen from my King Kong (white widow cross) onto these bagseed girls I have (some by the way is showing some purple coloring on the buds) and want to see what I can get from them.

Got some fresh seeded mexican brick seeds that I am going to germ and grow as well. I just love bagseed MINUS dealing with nanners with about 1/2 of them it seems. Most the quality of the seeded girls however are quality especially in yields and finish times.

So,

Do you think Mexican Brick Sativas can and do rival Seed Bank bought seeds?

Greetings,

In my opinion, high quality heirloom Mexican is far superior to seed bank seeds. However, I do not smoke weed to feel tired, like most Indica makes me feel. I judge it on how high I am, not how couch-locked I am. Mexican weed was the first weed I ever smoked, and it made me laugh my ass off for hours. When did you ever feel like that smoking Afghani? Then we got Colombian which was a bit more narcotic and dreamy. Then the Indica invasion occurred and most everything around drains me of energy.

There is no doubt in my mind that Mexican growers are breeding with intent. To assume not, is kind of condescending. After all, Mexican has a feel to it all it's own, trippy and HAPPY.

I spend all my time looking for those great highs of the past that used to be so common, and occasionally I find them. Right now I am close to harvesting some Oaxacan Highland growing indoors. Yes it smells peppery/spicy/weedy/musty, looks funky as heck to the point of being called shwaag, but who cares as long as I'm feeling energy, euphoria, and I am tripping balls! Screw all that pretty boy bud.

I'm growing a mostly Thai plant with the Mexican. It takes some 20 weeks to ripen, looks like almost no resin, but smoking good Thai Stick makes people think it is laced with a hallucinogen, and is so speedy it can give you tachycardia, until you build up a tolerance. After getting used to it, it is just plain trippy.

I'm growing Jamaican ganja from the 1960s next:

Good to see that some youngsters are on to this.

Old fart living in the past, and loving it.

ThaiBliss

 

[stihgnobevoli]

needs 24+ weeks but totally worth it.