Young plants not doing well. Advice needed asap

[Therealzemi]

Greetings fellow growers.

I am in the middle of my first indoor grow. And things are not quite as they should be.

Using Biobizz All mix soil. And 2cm of Leca (puffed clay) at the buttom.

Have used a 1/3 solution of "Easy 2 Grow" fert once. And watered with PH balanced clean water.

Using a insulated 1meterx1meterx2meter home build grow room. And currently using 2x T8 Fluorescents and 2 normal soft light bulps. And have a 600 watt HPS waiting for them to get ready. If they ever make it that far....
Theres a solid ventilation system with carbon filter. Plus a fan in the room for air circulation.
Temp has been between 25 and 28 degrees. And humidity between 50 and 70 (mostly under 60).

Here are the sad pics...... I am desperate, so any advice is most welcome !

 

[Therealzemi]

The plants were started from seeds in Grodan rockwool dices. And later moved (including the dice) to the pots and soil.

 

[DrFever]

The plants were started from seeds in Grodan rockwool dices. And later moved (including the dice) to the pots and soil.

simple fix STOP feeding them there to young my advice go by some miracle seedling starter mix and some solo cups or 3 - 4 " pots and transplant them ASAP and wait till there atleast 4" tall before even thinking about feeding them cheers doc

PS when transplanting them let medium dry out a bit use a spoon and take care by digging them out leaving soil on root system

GET er done before they die on you

 

[Therealzemi]

Thanks a lot for the answer. So the problem is too much fert? What about the nutrients in the soil. Are they an issue too?
Sorry for all the questions. First indoor grow ....

 

[Therealzemi]

It's 5 am here atm. For know ive taken the plants including the rockwool, and flushed them with clean water. And put them back in to the mini greenhouse. I hope this will save their lives ......... :-(

 

[I wood]

They look fine to me.
Plain water and some time will let them get big and healthy, then try some fertilizer.

 

[Therealzemi]

Thank you again guys for the answers. As i said, i carefully removed the rockwool dices. Rinced them properly, and put them in the incubator/mini greenhouse. They are already showing good signs of recovery
Very grateful

 

[Therealzemi]

And here they are. They look damaged from the fert yes. But they do look a hell of a lot happier now than the other day

Thanks again for the quick replies to my problem

 

[mr bub]

don't keep them too wet

 

[Therealzemi]

I wont. This was just an attempt to flush the ferts from the cubes. Today they have been moved to small pots with soil. I used the Biobizz all mix. But flushed it a couple of times first. They still look happy

 

[Therealzemi]

And the final update on the problem. Plants are back on track big time

This plant is the same as you see on the pic with the big pots. The one in the pot with pepples on the surface. 3 days progress after the rescue

 

[DrFever]

Your welcome leave them there in them cups for atleast 2 weeks this gives you time to drink lots of milk and then save the 2 liter cartons curt them almost in half and trans plant into them for 3 - 5 weeks then move up into a bigger pot and so on seedlings should go into 1 inch x 1 inch then once leafs have reached outer 1 inch transplant into 3 " keep them there till plant grows and leafs start growing past that 3 " pot then 6" and so on once you got a good plant of about 6 - 10 inches tall you can then place them into big pots any sooner can cause slow growth , STress etc keep that in mind for next time cheers DOC

 

[sourpuss]

Good job spotting a prob! You may become fine grower with a good eye, and an open mind....

 

[Therealzemi]

You guys are too awesome

I had no idea that too big pots, too early could cause slow growth. But it makes sence now that you say it. Yet again thank you

One more question, if you dont mind. As main grow light, i only have the 600 watt HPS. When would be a good time to swap to the HPS?

For the next grow i plan on having better light for the entire vegge period. But due to financial issues, i cant do it for this grow

 

[HatchBrew]

I'd leave under your T5's for now. They can be closer and won't have to deal with so many heat issues.

Learned a great lesson...some fresh soil and a transplant works wonders.

You have seven plants going?
Have you planned on take cuttings from each of them?

Keep on seeing your plants everyday. Don't just look at em, see them, listen to what they're showing you. You're doing great!!! Keep up the good work and we're here if you need help!

Check out organics section : )

 

[Therealzemi]

Hey HatchBrew

The plan is to get a clone from a good healthy plant. And make that a mother. And then going from there. One step at the time. And small steps. Yet so many things i wanna try. Honestly. Patience is the biggest challenge of growing indoor

I will for sure check out the organic section. It's something i wanna end up doing. Growing organic i mean. So far (even though i have some outdoor experience) ive been adviced against it to start with. I was told it takes a bit "more" to grow 100% organic with good success. If that is true or not, i have no idea

But besides the starter mistake i made here, i am truly enjoying growing them small gals right now

 

[Therealzemi]

Woops i forgot. Yes 7 plants. 1 being doubtful atm. It was small and hurt badly by the fert shock.

 

[StankyBeamer]

Growing organic is much easier than synthetic growing, just intimidating. With organics you no longer need to check ph or ppms. Just find a simple soil recipe, allow it to cook for a few weeks, boom ready to go soil, all you need is water. Once your familiar with this technique you can implement the use of compost teas and top feeding mixes. With a healthy herd of microbes, your plants become more resilient, while you only have to worry about watering and watching for bugs.

 

[Therealzemi]

Now i'm even more interested. Will put some research in to it, while this grow is on it's way. Thanks

 

[Therealzemi]

Okay..... One more update, to confirm that the doc was right (as expected)