The growing large plants, outdoors, thread...

[Luther Burbank]

Time to start the fall crop here where I am. 50% chance of first frost doesn't begin here until late November, and often we don't see freezing temperatures until late December. In the past I've thrown out clones or seedlings this late in the season. They don't get massive, but they put on some size and by the time they start flowering the temperatures have cooled enough to bring out some serious colour.

 

[TheRealHash]

It was my understanding that the stomata is open dusk and dawn,
Still spraying ewc

kelp

and cal-phos

Spray when the stomata are open. The temperature when they are usually open is, 72 deg F or 22.2 deg C. when the temp. is over 80 deg F or 26.6 deg C, they may not be open at all -

 

[Bulldog420]

So don't apply cal 25 over 80 degrees? That leaves a very small opening, 77-80 degrees? I have been using that product wrong then, I just spray when over 77.

 

[ROOTWISE]

Nothing but straight coco and untested well water this year.

That's my farm girl in the blue hat...

Hope everybody is fattening up out there, some nice gardens in this thread this year...

 

[ponobegone]

That's beautiful man!

 

[Shcrews]

Nothing but straight coco and untested well water this year.

blazing trails, pushing plants to levels never before thought possible, etc etc

nice work tho for real

 

[TheRealHash]

So don't apply cal 25 over 80 degrees? That leaves a very small opening, 77-80 degrees? I have been using that product wrong then, I just spray when over 77.

I guess 72-80 degrees is the ideal temperature range

 

[milkyjoe]

Nothing but straight coco and untested well water this year.

That's my farm girl in the blue hat...

Hope everybody is fattening up out there, some nice gardens in this thread this year...

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Is that stuff called the bomb by any chance?

 

[Bulldog420]

This right here appears to be a meter worth owning to me. http://www.agriculturesolutions.com...-laqua-twin-calcium-ca-ion-meter-b-751-detail

Probably not in the local hydro store...ima see if custom hydro can get me one...a dude that knows plenty

Edit...get ca right and a lot of shit falls in place

Amazon has it 50 bucks cheaper for anybody interested. What would be the first 2 meters people should buy?

 

[ROOTWISE]

milkyjoe, you know I was kidding about the coco, right?

 

[milkyjoe]

I did not know. I have frriends using that stuff. I wouldn't do it...but who knows

 

[plastochron]

a friend's garden. 200 gal geos. some serious gusts past week split some large branches.

Gage Green - Golden Goat x Joseph OG

Great looking plant (minus the giant split in the two main branches). I haven't seen Golden Goat flowers too many times, but this definitely smells the part. Tropical fruit with a hint of fuel. I'm definitely rocking a few of these next year.





Ganja Rebel Seeds - 5G's Blue F2 and OGSD x 5G's

3 individual 5G's Blue from seed; two plants nearly identical and purping up early; third plant is different pheno that isn't quite as mature, not purping up (yet), but looks like its going to be frostier.

 

[plastochron]

I have grown a few of OGSD x 5G's; this one is leaning more to the OGSD aroma more than most I've grown.



Loud Seeds - Original Loud

Lots of vigor. Nice balance between Jack and SD aroma.

 

[epicorchard]

milkyjoe, you know I was kidding about the coco, right?

looking good, Is that a 22' gale force?

 

[astronautchic]

Pono those pics are sick!! Wish I could've came out to see them.....def gonna be there next year!! And all the sunflowers are beautiful <3 ....slick out done yourself this year farmer!!

 

[Backyard Farmer]

Golden Tarp Awards coming up...

did any one enter?

South Fork Seed Collective entered "Animal Cookies" and "Cherry Pie"

Should be a great time .. Potluck puts on a great show ..

 

[Luther Burbank]

Places that get rain when they need it and not when they don't have it good - which is to say going all summer without rain just to have it hit when your plants are heavy with flowers is frustrating. Feeling mentally exhausted today staring at the untrellised plants buckling under 3 inches of rain over the course of the morning. Another 24h of it ahead too apparently. They're holding up so far, but I'm wondering how they'll be looking after another day. I'm expecting some losses.

 

[Dust]

Hey guys Ive been lurking on here for years but this is my first post. Ive been following this thread for awhile now and Ive learned so much from all of you, this has been my best resource for information, talking to people at hydro stores or garden centers can be so frustrating and misleading I've almost given up on it completely. My ladies have had kinda a rough season so far, and now they are showing some potentially serious problems and I'm just not sure how to combat it. There are so many different theories and techniques its hard to pick the "right" one.
So I pulled of a n early crop in my GH and as a result my plants for my full season grow stayed in 15gallon pots way too long and ended up getting root-bound, under-watered, stressed and as a result started showing signs of flower way early. I was able to get them by with high Nitrogen feeding, some T-Rex from cutting edge and Azos. I transplanted them into 200gallon smart pots and they stretched a bit before the beginning of August came. I ended up with a bunch leafs that only had 3 fingers but besides that they looked pretty healthy. I also grew outside with clones for the first time this year and they ended up getting Powder Mold which has made this year an uphill battle from the start. I have been fighting it off with Potassium Bicarbonate and a product called Big Time Exterminator which is supposed to be an enzyme that kills bugs and prevents the mycelium from developing. The PM is pretty much under control on my plants that are outside, but they still have some spotting, but the plants in my greenhouse are much worse because it is cooled by two swamp coolers, which I have recently turned the water off completely to prevent any excess moisture.
So my first question is should I just continue with sprays of Potassium Bicarbonate, to fight the PM? I also have a sulfur burner that I can use, I'm just hesitant because I don't want to ruin the smell or flavor, or smoke anything harmful, and dont have much experience with the burners.
The other route I have been considering is making up a AACT compost tea, and adding Actinovate, Serenade and Insect Frass. And spraying them with a diaphragm pump instead of my atomizer to keep from destroying any of the biology. My flowers are set pretty hard already though and I'm worried about hosing them down with EWC, sea kelp, fish hydrolsate ( wich I may remove and just use the Insect Frass instead) this late into flower.
My other issue is I have a plant in my greenhouse that is showing some serious necrosis and rust spotting. It is only on one of the branches which is the strange part, it started at the bottom of the branch, but has now moved its way to the top. None of the other plants are showing signs yet, but I have had some yellowing and dying of the lower older leafs after I finished my thinning out for the season. I am using store bought soil from a place called the Soil King in Cloverdale, CA and the mix is called Big Rootz I got it by the yard. The PH of my soil is 6.5 using my Blue Lab soil ph meter. I have been feeding mostly water after they got transplanted into the big pots I fed Flora Nova Veg, Florolicious Plus, Flora Blend Vegan Compoist Tea, Hygrozyme, a little Pro-tek Silica and Oregonism XL for two or three waterings in Veg and then now that Im in bloom I switched out the Grow for Bloom, stopped the Oregonism XL and am using Liquid Kool Bloom and used Insect Frass at 1TBS/gal but have only done two waterings with this a week apart.
After picking up this thread again after a long break Im starting to question the way I have been doing things and want to go a more organic and sustainable route. I have a ton to learn about plant biology and the way things actualy work. I have always been happy with my results but feel like I may be wasting money and ruining my soil and its biology.
I think the plant is showing signs of Magnesium defieciency, but Im not entirely sure, and I have no idea what the best way to correct it is. The plant that is showing the problems is in the middle of my greenhouse which was staying cooler than outside during the day so maybe the soil is too cold because its not heating up as much as the other plants? I doubt that's it but just a thought I had.
Any help you guys could give would be greatly apreciated. Here are some pics so you can see what im talking about.

 

[Buckowens]

Again... Rootwise FTW!!!!
Baller status. Where's the dry sift?

 

[OvergrowDaWorld]

I would give them Cal-Mag+ with every watering and dont give em nutes for a few.
If its just on a branch could it be broad mites in your rootzone?
Maybe got sprayed with something in the full sun?