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The growing large plants, outdoors, thread...

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epicorchard

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I'm taking my n a little longer this year after seeing how my dep went and final product turned out. All my n comes from fish hydrosolate, vital earth's 5 9 4 and the live ewc in my drenches. I'm also top dressing with need seed meal, fish bone meal and the crab meal. I'm switching to 0 13 0 in my drench on my earliest girls this week. For maybe the next 3 or 4 drenches, then back to the 5 9 4 for a couple drenches. I grew a lot of flowers in the garden this year and used different guano top dressings to feed and the 5 9 4 made them explode with blooms and color everytime no doubt. I have a couple of small plants I may foliar with ppd tonight just to see how they turn out. BTW that stihl backpack sprayer is freaking awesome I highly recommend it. Nice find bulldog, and like that recipe epic, which hydrosolate do you use? I use the Pacific gro but I bet it's all the same

Awesome, thank you for your feedback. I have a hook up on shrimp, kelp, and fish all from the mendo coast. I assume thats a good thing, but most other products seem to be coming from the atlantic.

I buy each in a 275 gallon tote. Fish and shrimp are $750 plus a $90 tote deposit, but I love totes so at $90 I'd rather keep them for next years GH hydro plans and an aquaponic veggie house as well.

The Kelp also comes in a 275gal, and runs $1500 plus the $90 deposit.
The company charges a flat rate $100 delivery charge to your door.

All 3 products delivered is $3,400. This was the best deal I could find, but maybe some of you know of a better deal/product?
 

ponobegone

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Want to add I did a cal25 foliar yesterday @ 4pm 81degrees @ 3tsp. Per 4galls. Haven't seen any brown hairs today on my Hindus that are weeks in and they seem to be loving life today. Will probably hit them again with the same dose in a few days for the last time. What time of day do you guys do foliars? I do my ppd, kelp/ewcs, epsoms, and some other stuff @ night, if its a full moon I add fun guys, and my cal25 I try to time between 75 and 80 in the am, usually around 10 or 11.
 
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ponobegone

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Yes been trying to tell a buddy I gave some to but he refused to spray in direct sunlight above 65 even though it says it on the website. To be honest though I think I sprayed it mostly early mornings last year.
 
Any one use any green houses from any one besides Envirotech/Rimol ???

Curious what your experience was.

agratech makes excellent greenhouses... definitely more expensive but extremely professional and well made. no comparison with envirotech.

the blackout cloth pulling motors on the envirotech auto dep houses crap out real quick. had issues with envirotech delivering the wrong fabric as well and it was a real pain in the ass for them to make it right. the structure itself on the envirotech houses are a good value, but agratech's are way beefier.

no experience with conely's, but have heard good stuff about them.

what type of house are you looking for? really going to dictate which company will provide the best value.
 

Bulldog420

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Couple weeks behind you guys, had lights running past August.

Og twist in 200gal
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NL #5 Stacking nicely.

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Backyard Farmer

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agratech makes excellent greenhouses... definitely more expensive but extremely professional and well made. no comparison with envirotech.

the blackout cloth pulling motors on the envirotech auto dep houses crap out real quick. had issues with envirotech delivering the wrong fabric as well and it was a real pain in the ass for them to make it right. the structure itself on the envirotech houses are a good value, but agratech's are way beefier.

no experience with conely's, but have heard good stuff about them.

what type of house are you looking for? really going to dictate which company will provide the best value.

Damn that pisses me off to hear.

I have 2 22 x 48 gale forces already..one with the automated curtain system. It's disappointing to hear the Total Energy Group motor dies quickly.

They delivered the correct blackout material to me but they shorted me parts on numerous parts of the house and generally have no interoffice communication which makes it like getting a tooth pulled to try to deal with getting things made right as you also experienced.

I know my next houses are going to come from AgraTech via Forever Flowering...Just curious what other people went with.

I had Vital/Conley's give me a bid ,but I got weird vibes from them so I'm not sure I'll be giving them my money.
 
these ladies pale in comparison to many of the monsters from this year, but figured i'd post anyways.

Ganja Rebel Seeds:
5g's Yellow F3
OGC4 x 5g's
OGSD x 5g's

Loud Seeds:
7/8th's Sour
 

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Yes4Prop215

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AS SOON as your'e done pulling off your B crop , pull the stalks out and burn them and bring in new soil and pile it on top of your old soil and leave it on top, doesn't take much. I forget the exact amount to spread over the top but Sam published it for us in Hemp Pests and Diseases.

thanks for the advice everyone i truly appreciate y'all taking the time to try and diagnose and guide me on these issues. you guys are on the money, and i have a lot of things to work on in the offseason as well as changes to the "absent minded august" for next year. my crew lost a little focus in august, things were healthy and trellised and we stepped back a bit to work on projects, and within a week things went south on several plants. luckily its only affected 2 plants very bad that have lost a few of the lower branches. with symptoms on 4 others but those haven't lost branches yet.

we got on the ladies hard in the last few days with the cano3 via foliars. the leaves were tracking right after, gotta get the brix up and color back into them.

also my hypothesis on the sick plants mostly relates to the sogginess at the bottom of my mounds. the dogs dug into a mound and what saw 1-2 feet down in was kind of scary, straight mud. i think the norcal blend definitely needs a little more perlite/pumice into it because it can get pretty dense. also since we are on clay, that helps contribute to our higher PH. so i believe we over-watered these mounds a little too much, leading to root disease and high PH, when then contributed to our lockout.

got plant chemistry on the reading list, i learned a fuckload this week trying to diagnose these problems. thanks again to everyone for the guidance!
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one of my tallest plants, Asteroid (LVPKxNevillesHaze) @ 13feet. the stepladder plus bamboo is 6 feet.


Tangie hybrids, april seed starts. some of my healthiest, next year I'm going to use younger starts, all my issues are with the march starts. the april ones had way more vigor.
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Shcrews

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recipe for suck sess : straight water all season with no foliars, no meters, shit we still havent got our nets up. pretty far from perfect, gotta try some new stuff next year
 

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