Israel, Palestinians agree to long-term truce in Gaza Strip conflict

[MJBadger]

and that rocket will be destroyed or hit an empty lot, and then the true twat Israeli military will bomb what next? A mosque during a service, or just stick to schools full of children? And then hospitals that are barely functioning as it is? I don't know how a few nuts with rockets can enrage you more than a brutal bully aggressor that kills far more innocent people? Unless we are being racist here and saying they are not people or a lower form of people? Sounds a lot like nazi mentality to me but what do I know?

You see the size of the strip compared to Israel , it`s tiny yet you have Hamas hiding under the women`s skirts , in a school playground , parking lot of a hospital or just some back alley in a housing development firing off another rocket .This upsets the Israelis & rightly so & seeing as they are what 20 times the size ? have a bigger armed force & a top air force , you expect the strip to get a pounding .
It is up to the decent civilians to stand up against Hamas , they are the ones causing the problems & the innocent are suffering .
You slap Mike Tyson long enough he`s gonna punch you out , chuck a rocket into Israel same thing happens .

 

[Harry Gypsna]

I don't want to hate on anyone...except Tories at least. what has been happening in Europe with attacks on synagogues is a bloody disgrace.

There is no doubt that there is intransigence on both sides, and to be clear, callously flinging rockets with no guidance system is deplorable, but so is using the most advanced weapons systems which pretty much guarantee that you hit what aim at to blow up the power station and hospitals delibarately. Eventually Isreal is going to have to grow up, accept that Eretz Isreal is never going to happen, and get to work sorting our land trabnsfers that allow a viable palestinian state. Likewise, the Palestinian people need to wake up to the fact that the Islamist nutbags are using them and start resisting them too. All that Gas off the coast of Gaza could be a real boon to the Palestinian people.

I still think it would all be sorted out if you all sat down to a nice cup of tea and a bacon sandwich.... Bacon is soothing!

 

[bombadil.360]

I don't want to hate on anyone...except Tories at least. what has been happening in Europe with attacks on synagogues is a bloody disgrace.

There is no doubt that there is intransigence on both sides, and to be clear, callously flinging rockets with no guidance system is deplorable, but so is using the most advanced weapons systems which pretty much guarantee that you hit what aim at to blow up the power station and hospitals delibarately. Eventually Isreal is going to have to grow up, accept that Eretz Isreal is never going to happen, and get to work sorting our land trabnsfers that allow a viable palestinian state. Likewise, the Palestinian people need to wake up to the fact that the Islamist nutbags are using them and start resisting them too. All that Gas off the coast of Gaza could be a real boon to the Palestinian people.

I still think it would all be sorted out if you all sat down to a nice cup of tea and a bacon sandwich.... Bacon is soothing!

go tell that to the people in South Israel, where rockets from Gaza and West Bank have been falling down non-stop for the last decade almost on a daily basis; most times without an answer from Israel.

but what do people know who really don't know anything about the subject?

 

[Harry Gypsna]

go tell that to the people in South Israel, where rockets from Gaza and West Bank have been falling down non-stop for the last decade almost on a daily basis; most times without an answer from Israel.

but what do people know who really don't know anything about the subject?

I know enough to know who the underdog is, who is being oppressed and who is doing the oppressing, and who is making money from it. Ooh, look, Halliburton just got drilling rights in territory that is legally Syrian.



As I said firing rockets without guidance systems is deplorable, but should they just roll over and let Israel take every last scrap of land....The religious nutters I lived in a squat with were quite open about the fact that they would be very happy for all the palestinian people to die.
People have got a right to resist oppression and subjugation. The more desparate people become, the worse the tactics get.

 

[Space Toker]

How about injustices on BOTH sides? Or does that just apply to Israel?

Everyone is saying "poor Israel", no one is addressing and admitting the Israeli war crimes. Balance, remember? If the opposite were true, I'd be stressing that point of view.

If everyone spent as much time and energy trying to understand/get along with/help one another as they did destroying/demonizing/marginalizing one another, this place would be freakin awesome instead of fucking aweful! A lot less violence and a lot more love would result. This whole concept of "heaven on Earth" would be a lot closer to reality, instead of some guy coming out of the sky, maybe we are just meant to do it ourselves by respecting each other?

 

[resinryder]

In October of 1998, President Clinton, Benjamin Netanyahu and Yasser Arafat sat down at Camp David and at the end of the "Peace Accords" Arafat was offered everything he had asked for. The end result? HE TURNED EVERY THING DOWN!!
Why? Because those "Underdogs" do not want peace. Arafat would not be the man to bring peace to the middle east. He would not be the man to have peace with the Jews. WHY? Because he did not want to be viewed as a weakling in the eyes of the Palestinians and their Arab neighbors. It's not about peace. It's about denying the Jews have any right to exist.
Saying they want peace and actually working towards peace are 2 very different things.

 

[resinryder]

Everyone is saying "poor Israel", no one is addressing and admitting the Israeli war crimes. Balance, remember? If the opposite were true, I'd be stressing that point of view.

If everyone spent as much time and energy trying to understand/get along with/help one another as they did destroying/demonizing/marginalizing one another, this place would be freakin awesome instead of fucking aweful! A lot less violence and a lot more love would result. This whole concept of "heaven on Earth" would be a lot closer to reality, instead of some guy coming out of the sky, maybe we are just meant to do it ourselves by respecting each other?

Ok so it's just Israel that's guilty of wrong doing. No one else. Got it.

 

[Space Toker]

How about this? Admit Israel is guilty of war crimes and must face the consequences, and I will admit you have a valid point or 2, in other words admit Israel can and does and has done things wrong, that they can do wrong, and I will admit their opponents can too. It is all one-sided with you and that is just not how reality works.

 

[Space Toker]

I remember that time, a time I thought peace and justice would finally prevail. Then that fat P.O.S. Ariel Sharon purposely incited unrest by showing disrespect at a mosque. not sure what he did now, but he knew it would get this kind of reaction and did it anyway. then your noble armed forces relentlessly bombed the house of Arafat, who was sick and that again was totally uncalled for, the actions of scum not good people. your side is far from innocent victims so time to shed that victim complex and act like civilized people before someone does come along and punish you for your arrogant barbarism.

 

[Storm Shadow]

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/01/11/burying-sharon/

 

[Space Toker]

Israel would be nothing without US aid, would have long since ceased to exist. Hamas was legally elected into power in Gaza, and provides far more services than any bad they do. I believe I heard that since they were elected, they did not fire rockets (other groups did) or engage in any terrorists acts. Their services are needed by the people, and therefore they are needed. And as the rightful government of Gaza, Israel has no right telling them that they cannot have armed forces to defend themselves, or that they cannot defend themselves, or that they cannot be the government of Gaza. War crimes on top of war crimes. The time is long overdue for them to pay for this.

 

[Harry Gypsna]

How about this? Admit Israel is guilty of war crimes and must face the consequences, and I will admit you have a valid point or 2, in other words admit Israel can and does and has done things wrong, that they can do wrong, and I will admit their opponents can too. It is all one-sided with you and that is just not how reality works.

To be fair, both sides have committed war crimes in this. Firing rockets at civillian areas is a war crime.

 

[Space Toker]

did I not say neither side was perfect early on? Does that mean that it is right for him to keep on passing the blame to the other side and not admit his side has any?

 

[resinryder]

"your side"-Not my side

" act like civilized people before someone does come along and punish you for your arrogant barbarism."-Lol. Civilized people do not hide behind women and children and indiscriminately lob rockets.

"Everyone is saying "poor Israel", no one is addressing and admitting the Israeli war crimes. Balance, remember? If the opposite were true, I'd be stressing that point of view."
The opposite isn't true?

Then you say-"How about this? Admit Israel is guilty of war crimes and must face the consequences, and I will admit you have a valid point or 2, in other words admit Israel can and does and has done things wrong, that they can do wrong, and I will admit their opponents can too. So all I have to do is admit that Israel is guilty of war crimes for defending themselves and doing the same thing their attackers are doing for you to admit wrong doing on the other side of the equation? It is all one-sided with you and that is just not how reality works." In their neighborhood force begets a stronger force.

You are the one being one sided here. You defend the actions of what Hamas is doing in the name of the "oppressed" as being ok and haven't the first time condemned their cowardly actions.
What if another rocket was never was fired at Israel, another Israeli citizen was never kidnapped, no Iman or countries leader ever again called for their total annihilation, and Israel never had reason to respond harshly. Would that prove anything to you? You talk alot about peace but won't condemn violence perpetuated against Israel and by not condemning it apparently condone war crimes committed against them without an admission of wrong doing on Israels part? Really?
Israel has tried many times for a peace process but every time the other side has demanded more and more and will not come to the table with a realistic compromise for the process. They do not want it unless they get everything they want and more. How do you negotiate with that mentality? You can't.

 

[Space Toker]

AS I said before, I am being one-sided because the side of Israel needs no more defense, everyone defends them. They are the aggressors and bullies. What a handful of extremists do is not relevant to the discussion, since it does not give Israel the right to bomb a whole people for the actions of a few. The Gaza side gets no public support while war crimes are committed against them, and that is wrong. I will not defend an insane aggressor just because the opposition is not perfect. Ugh I am done with you, believe your fairy tales if you must.

 

[resinryder]

LOL. Then lets agree to disagree and part as friends then. What ya say?

 

[Storm Shadow]

ISRAEL can be summed up by this diagnosis to the T manyne!

NPD

http://psychcentral.com/disorders/narcissistic-personality-disorder-symptoms/

Narcissistic Personality Disorder is characterized by a long-standing pattern of grandiosity (either in fantasy or actual behavior), an overwhelming need for admiration, and usually a complete lack of empathy toward others. People with this disorder often believe they are of primary importance in everybody’s life or to anyone they meet. While this pattern of behavior may be appropriate for a king in 16th Century England, it is generally considered inappropriate for most ordinary people today.
People with narcissistic personality disorder often display snobbish, disdainful, or patronizing attitudes. For example, an individual with this disorder may complain about a clumsy waiter’s “rudeness” or “stupidity” or conclude a medical evaluation with a condescending evaluation of the physician.
In laypeople terms, someone with this disorder may be described simply as a “narcissist” or as someone with “narcissism.” Both of these terms generally refer to someone with narcissistic personality disorder.
A personality disorder is an enduring pattern of inner experience and behavior that deviates from the norm of the individual’s culture. The pattern is seen in two or more of the following areas: cognition; affect; interpersonal functioning; or impulse control. The enduring pattern is inflexible and pervasive across a broad range of personal and social situations. It typically leads to significant distress or impairment in social, work or other areas of functioning. The pattern is stable and of long duration, and its onset can be traced back to early adulthood or adolescence.
Symptoms of Narcissistic Personality Disorder

In order for a person to be diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) they must meet five or more of the following symptoms:

• Has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)
• Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
• Believes that he or she is “special” and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)
• Requires excessive admiration
• Has a very strong sense of entitlement, e.g., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations
• Is exploitative of others, e.g., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends
• Lacks empathy, e.g., is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others
• Is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her
• Regularly shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes

Because personality disorders describe long-standing and enduring patterns of behavior, they are most often diagnosed in adulthood. It is uncommon for them to be diagnosed in childhood or adolescence, because a child or teen is under constant development, personality changes and maturation. However, if it is diagnosed in a child or teen, the features must have been present for at least 1 year.
Narcissistic personality disorder is more prevalent in males than females, and is thought to occur in up to 6.2 percent of the general population.
Like most personality disorders, narcissistic personality disorder typically will decrease in intensity with age, with many people experiencing few of the most extreme symptoms by the time they are in the 40s or 50s.

 

[resinryder]

lol, Sounds a lot like Hamas!

 

[Space Toker]

lol whatever

 

[stoned-trout]

Israel soldiers got great knife fighting tecniques......respekt