there's a few places in uk selling it, but not many
try googling mate its made by Optic Foliar
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Got mildew.. get ATAK
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there's a few places in uk selling it, but not many
try googling mate its made by Optic Foliar
Burnt tips are from the bicarb i had been trying with zeros success , the atak did the job in a few days and burnt tips grew out.
alright mate
Transport is a wetting agent made by Optic Foliar
you can spray with the light on anything you wish to foliar feed and you can also reduce the amount of whatever it is you are foliaring as it penetrates the waxy cuticle delivering the nutrient or pesticide or whatever directly into the plant itself
its good stuff mate, highly recommend
Organic Grower
Member
Does anybody know who is carrying Atak in the Sierra Foothills area? I've called a few of the shops they have listed on their site but they don't have it...
I can't speak for ATAK but for those that are having a hard time finding it I just used a product called Green Cure that is potassium bicarbonate. It knocked out my PM immediately and I have only seen it pop back up on one chemdawg plant again. It did seem to burn the tips of leaves and pistils just a bit though at the lower end recommended dosage on the container so I would maybe try lower than their lowest recommended dosage and see how that treats you. One word from the wise, fill up your mixing container with water FIRST and then add the product to it. I think that there is a soap/wetting agent in there that foams up like crazy if you add the product first and then water.
http://www.greencure.net/
http://www.greencure.net/
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RicoT
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Fuck. Just bought a little bottle of Eagle20 off Amazon like two nights ago. Gonna look into this. Thanks for sharing! 
Edit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXhacFnlgzQ
Seems 'Overgrow' is their ready-to-use spray containing Transport, Watts, Rev, and ATAK all in one formula.. Or am I mistaking..?
Edit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXhacFnlgzQ
Seems 'Overgrow' is their ready-to-use spray containing Transport, Watts, Rev, and ATAK all in one formula.. Or am I mistaking..?
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Nes
Member
yeah eagle 20 is nasty.
I don't understand the transport thing either. the mixing instructions on the website say to mix directly with the trasnport. I cant just mix it with water and cocowet? i need to buy their water too?
WHO DaT IS - did you use it indoors or out? I sprayed yesterday preventatively for our dep, @ 3 big scoops in a 2 gallons sprayer (1.5 tbsp/gal where it said 1-2) I hope it doesn't burn our shits!
I don't understand the transport thing either. the mixing instructions on the website say to mix directly with the trasnport. I cant just mix it with water and cocowet? i need to buy their water too?
WHO DaT IS - did you use it indoors or out? I sprayed yesterday preventatively for our dep, @ 3 big scoops in a 2 gallons sprayer (1.5 tbsp/gal where it said 1-2) I hope it doesn't burn our shits!
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noyd666
sounds like a life saver, must check for sale in oz, probably not. did a good job of cleaning those plants up.
it aint in oz bud, you'd need to order either from US, Canada or UK
Will this stuff actually get RID of PM instead of just putting a bandaid on the problem so to speak? I know that the greencure I'm using got rid of signs of the PM for 2-3 weeks but now that I'm about to harvest I'm seeing it pop up again on some plants. I also have 3 little baby clones in a separate area where one is starting to show signs of it already. I have PM all around my house on various ground cover stuff on the lawn outside and this summer has been an unusually wet and rainy one for where I'm at in Colorado. I NEVER us chemicals on my plants but this has me entertaining the thought of using Eagle 20. Do systemic diseases require systemic chemicals? I've never had any issues with PM to date in the 5 or so years of growing until now. Do y'all think that this PM issue will go away or at least not be as prevalent as time goes on, summer turns to fall, temps get colder and humidity drops again?
I'd like to hit the littluns with the green cure but I know it would likely fry them @ 1 tblspn/gallon. 10% milk solution? Is ATAK really the bees knees over greencure?
I'd like to hit the littluns with the green cure but I know it would likely fry them @ 1 tblspn/gallon. 10% milk solution? Is ATAK really the bees knees over greencure?
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Organic Grower
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I havent been able to find any of these products being discussed locally. Anyone get the scoop on this Atak around the sierra foothills yet? The greencure looks like a promising product, but I read not to use it on flowers, and although the PM hasnt quite reached any flowers, its difficult to control the spray and keep it on the leaves.
A local grow store owner recommended SM90 to me, although it doesn't even specify treatment against PM. It does seem to be eradicating the spores, but I know the PM is still spreading to other plants. I'm having to go out every morning and check every plant. Staying to find others with maybe a couple leaves with the beginnings of PM. Spot treating what I can, but I'm worried about this SM90.. It hasn't seemed to harm anything yet, but it does leave behind a residue. Should I maybe rinse off the leaves?
I really hate to even consider something like Eagle 20..
whodat, if I can go back in time I'd get rid of anything that ever had PM at an early stage. My understanding is that once the plant is infected, it will stay infected and resurface when the conditions favor it.
I'm losing sleep over this shit. Got a lot on the line and conditions will only continue to favor the fungus as time goes on. Going out daily and spot treating is taking a lot of time and seems to be a losing battle. Harvest can't come soon enough..
A local grow store owner recommended SM90 to me, although it doesn't even specify treatment against PM. It does seem to be eradicating the spores, but I know the PM is still spreading to other plants. I'm having to go out every morning and check every plant. Staying to find others with maybe a couple leaves with the beginnings of PM. Spot treating what I can, but I'm worried about this SM90.. It hasn't seemed to harm anything yet, but it does leave behind a residue. Should I maybe rinse off the leaves?
I really hate to even consider something like Eagle 20..
whodat, if I can go back in time I'd get rid of anything that ever had PM at an early stage. My understanding is that once the plant is infected, it will stay infected and resurface when the conditions favor it.
I'm losing sleep over this shit. Got a lot on the line and conditions will only continue to favor the fungus as time goes on. Going out daily and spot treating is taking a lot of time and seems to be a losing battle. Harvest can't come soon enough..
I remember somebody mentioning that they use Eagle 20 only during the early stages in life up until veg before flowering. Does anybody know how long it takes for it to work out of the plant? Does it pretty much wipe it out and provide a blank slate so to speak?
OrganicGrower, I'm planning on mixing up several gallons of the greencure and dunking cut plants in it, and then washing them off in a clean bucket of water. Shitty but I would rather kill and wash off the PM then try to cross my fingers and hope that I'm trying most of it off. The product is just potassium bicarbonate 85% with the other 15% being what I suspect is a soap based wetting agent. I can't imagine it doing any harm towards the end of flower so long as it is washed off really well.
OrganicGrower, I'm planning on mixing up several gallons of the greencure and dunking cut plants in it, and then washing them off in a clean bucket of water. Shitty but I would rather kill and wash off the PM then try to cross my fingers and hope that I'm trying most of it off. The product is just potassium bicarbonate 85% with the other 15% being what I suspect is a soap based wetting agent. I can't imagine it doing any harm towards the end of flower so long as it is washed off really well.
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Luther Burbank
I lose about a week off my life from a blood pressure spike every time Eagle20 gets suggested. The stuff shouldn't be used on cannabis. It has never been tested or approved for ingestion and definitely not for inhalation. It's meant only for ornamentals such as roses and *some* fruiting plants before fruit set has begun. The residuals on something like Eagle20 are horrifying to think of - both it's main ingredients are known or suspected carcinogens or cause birth defects.
Yikes. This make me think of one of my more favorite movie quotes.
Do you know that the harder thing to do and the right thing to do are usually the same thing?
No Eagle 20 for me.
Do you know that the harder thing to do and the right thing to do are usually the same thing?
No Eagle 20 for me.
So far I don't have anything bad to say about using technical grade mineral oil for pm. It's supposed to have mite control properties as well. Does what its supposed to. Just have to keep application of sulfur products 14 days from mineral oil applications. www.stylet-oil.com
