Humboldt's Secret Golden Tree, legit or snake oil?

[straightdank420]

Was just wondering if anyone has used the additive. It supposedly replaced all other additives you use, except calmag. Not much info on the net, aside from selling pitches. Really wish someone reputable, like Jack, would use it and tell us what the business is. I believe Greyskull is using it, so can't what to hear what he assesses. Anyone else using this product?

 

[CoastalKind]

look at what it is derived from. If the parts are good the sum of the parts are also good. For that price anything in a bottle is snake oil. You can get every supplement you need for a huge crop for an entire season for around $150 not including soil of course. Go with dry supplements, than you aren't paying for water or some one else doing the mixing. Good fish emulsion, alfalfa meal, kelp, kelp extract, composted manures, fish bone meal, feather meal, etc etc will give your plants everything they could every need and then some. I personally bought 50 lbs of fish bone meal, 25 lbs of alfalfa meal, and 50 lbs of langbeinite for under $100. Don't get fooled by all those companies making a fortune off of clueless growers. Just go get a book about horticulture and start reading. Knowledge is power.

 

[Budseeker147]

Environment is key

 

[90days]

Greyskull is in the process of doing a review of it. Anyways, if you do some research, there are no reviews of the final product. The only thing you can find about it is that they sponsored people's grows and none of them gave final reviews.

 

[Greyskull]

I believe Greyskull is using it, so can't what to hear what he assesses.

So far, as just a Boost replacement, so far so good.
We'll see how the buds finish and smoke.
But so far so good.
My opinion....

90days I saw some youtube reviews of it. i figure its fresh on the market. you never know if it will work unless you try! and how can you know how it will work without trying?!? Someone has to pioneer...

A friend of mine is taking a plunge on a 1/2g to try it as a replacement for rhino and zyme in veg. I figure if things go as GT says, I will be trying it that way, too.

but I like baby steps.

look at what it is derived from. If the parts are good the sum of the parts are also good. For that price anything in a bottle is snake oil. You can get every supplement you need for a huge crop for an entire season for around $150 not including soil of course. Go with dry supplements, than you aren't paying for water or some one else doing the mixing. Good fish emulsion, alfalfa meal, kelp, kelp extract, composted manures, fish bone meal, feather meal, etc etc will give your plants everything they could every need and then some. I personally bought 50 lbs of fish bone meal, 25 lbs of alfalfa meal, and 50 lbs of langbeinite for under $100. Don't get fooled by all those companies making a fortune off of clueless growers. Just go get a book about horticulture and start reading. Knowledge is power.

I like the ease of bottled nutrients.
Easy to get. Easy to store. Easy to mix.
EASY to get good results.
For me....

I haven't yet gotten good results the MIY (make/mix it yourself) way.
And.... I like to cheat. Coach always said:
If you aren't cheating, you aren't trying hard enough

 

[Mikell]

Pretty sure it's just their new PGR to fill the void of all the banned products. Company states otherwise, but wasen't that the same line before the banning of the other products? Method of mixing looks similar to other fox-tail (aka. ugly bud syndrome) style bloom boosters.

I'm with Coastal. I always get a chuckle thinking of the responses/facial expressions you would get if you showed these products to any non-cannabis grower.

Either way, I believe you can source their "secret ingredients" yourself and save buying all that dolled up water.

 

[Greyskull]

Pretty sure it's just their new PGR to fill the void of all the banned products. Company states otherwise, but wasen't that the same line before the banning of the other products? Method of mixing looks similar to other fox-tail (aka. ugly bud syndrome) style bloom boosters.

I'm with Coastal. I always get a chuckle thinking of the responses/facial expressions you would get if you showed these products to any non-cannabis grower.

Either way, I believe you can source their "secret ingredients" yourself and save buying all that dolled up water.

First you start off on the banned PGR foot, then you finish on the MIY foot. Thats a shuffle right there! I need to learn how to do that hahaha


From what I understand, it is capable of replacing Rhizotonic, Cannazym, and Boost supplements - none of which are banned and are easily acquired. Even for me on Maui.

The Chem D sure does still look like the Chem D 37 days in... so, so far so good....

Aloha

 

[CoastalKind]

So far, as just a Boost replacement, so far so good.
We'll see how the buds finish and smoke.
But so far so good.
My opinion....

90days I saw some youtube reviews of it. i figure its fresh on the market. you never know if it will work unless you try! and how can you know how it will work without trying?!? Someone has to pioneer...

A friend of mine is taking a plunge on a 1/2g to try it as a replacement for rhino and zyme in veg. I figure if things go as GT says, I will be trying it that way, too.

but I like baby steps.



I like the ease of bottled nutrients.
Easy to get. Easy to store. Easy to mix.
EASY to get good results.
For me....

I haven't yet gotten good results the MIY (make/mix it yourself) way.
And.... I like to cheat. Coach always said:
If you aren't cheating, you aren't trying hard enough

Than go with a reasonably priced natural premix. If you want to use fertilizer salts to grow than just go get a tub of maxicrop powder and dissolve it in water.

 

[Mikell]

First you start off on the banned PGR foot, then you finish on the MIY foot. Thats a shuffle right there! I need to learn how to do that hahaha


From what I understand, it is capable of replacing Rhizotonic, Cannazym, and Boost supplements - none of which are banned and are easily acquired. Even for me on Maui.

The Chem D sure does still look like the Chem D 37 days in... so, so far so good....

Aloha

Hah! Maybe I should have read up a bit instead of making assumptions XD

As for the shuffle, I don't see why you would pay someone else to mix nutrients for you? Even hormones don't seem that hard to source if one looks around. I suppose if one had trouble with measuring/math?

 

[straightdank420]

Hey guys this is thread about individuals who have experience with Golden Tree. Greyskull coming in here and expressing his reasoning for using bottle nutrients doesn't warrant little snide remarks about "math" or growing ability. Wanna be negative? Cool, just take it to another thread please.

 

[Greyskull]

Than go with a reasonably priced natural premix. If you want to use fertilizer salts to grow than just go get a tub of maxicrop powder and dissolve it in water.

There are a bunch of ways to skin the cat
the way I have been doing things, my flowers come out leaps and bounds better than a lot of other people's stuff. so basically I think I am already crazy for trying to change a little parameter of my equation for success... there is no need for me to try a whole other kind of equation to achieve the same end results.

Its possible that after the smoke test I will find Golden Tree not up to the expectations and standards I have with Canna.
Its also entirely possible I will find Golden Tree meets those expectations and standards.
And heaven forbid it actually ends up to be better...

Hah! Maybe I should have read up a bit instead of making assumptions XD

As for the shuffle, I don't see why you would pay someone else to mix nutrients for you? Even hormones don't seem that hard to source if one looks around. I suppose if one had trouble with measuring/math?

I don't see what I should have to mix nutrients myself. I don't see what I would want to source the hormones myself.
I don't want to take the time to do it.
I don't want to expend the energy top do it.
I have better shit to do, like grow pot on Maui 24/7.
Hows that math?
HAHAHAHA

Let me put it this way...
I love drinking milk. Love it. I have to pay like $7 per G here on Maui. Sure I could get a chunk of land, get some cows, buy some hay, and milk the animals myself, so I can save money and not go to the store for milk. But that math... I have trouble with. I'd rather just go to Foodland grab a G and go. Its easier.

Work smarter not harder.

Let them bring it straightdank420
it aint nothing hahahaha

 

[Mikell]

That argument works wonders. Where would the pre-chopped vegetable industry be with out people like you? Understandable though, how could you want to do something so menial when you can relax?

XD

Sorry mate, I just get a laugh out of people willing to fork over their paycheck to someone else to do everything for them. And yes, at 7 dollars a gallon, I would be looking at self production or barter. It isn't often I willingly bend over and spread my cheeks. But I suppose it is a steal compared to what you're already paying per gallon for this product.

Work to pay others to do your work. Genius math XD

 

[Greyskull]

Get it thru your cabeza homie Mikell and understand that I can and will keep spending money on Canna for the rest of my days, and not blink a goddamn eye about it.
I grow pot for money.
I get good dollars for growing a goddamn plant.
I will blow my pot money how wish.
Eat it.

But somehow.... here I am, trying something LESS EXPENSIVE than Canna, and you are still trying to point the finger at me with your nose raised high... for what? wasteful spending?
Go take your cheap pompous ass somewhere else and out of this thread... maybe the ROLS forum is a good place for you to talk about the multitude of benefits of self production.

I am gonna go eat some McDonalds now....

 

[Mikell]

If you're growing for profit and haven't progressed to dry mix...amazing. That stoner mindset really hammers home why there are almost no pot growers running any large medical facilities.

I can understand why you would get so upset though, I mean, if I were growing for profit and someone pointed out an incredibly cheap option I couldn't comprehend, I would feel pretty stupid too.

See you in ROLS


So this is trolling. It's kind of fun. I'll have to whip it out sometime on the subway.

 

[Greyskull]

sorry to disappoint, but you're not exactly trolling
you sure are one with the smug though... bless your heart.

i think its a safe bet that my finished, FOR PROFIT FLOWERS, are in fact, better than what comes out of your garden. For whatever reasons you can use as an excuse hahahaha

I'll light a black candle for you after I rip the bong haha
aloha

 

[elusified]

Mikell your just a dick and the way you talk to people im sure you have a really small one at that.As for growing weed and using premixed nutrients or buying what you need separately in bulk or small quantities and creating your own magical mix.Its all the same fun for each person growing their first or their hundredth plant.The older you get and the more experience you have im sure the way you feed your plants evolves as you want to perfect the art of growing marijuana.The first time I grew a plant I used miracle grow.This was back in 1992 in Seattle in the middle of the grunge explosion.I was growing a University strain called the U DUB.It was a lab ratthat got snuck out of the college and only a few people got it.After using miracle grow I jumped to Alaskan fish poop.It took years of exploring from dirt to rockwool to coco from hot unventilated rooms to wind tunnels and so forth.All I gotta say to finish this up IS.Dont be a dick!!!!If you have knowledge to share with beginners do it without an EGO.Show your prowess with love and understanding of the motherearths god given herb and AGAIN...DONT BE A DICK!!!!


Greyskull you did good holding in.No need to waste your time on slimey ego ball lickers like Mikell .Im sure his weed tastes like miracle grow.hahaha eat it Mikell I hate people like you go bury yourself in the desert ass up.

 

[Mikell]

Greyskull - yeah I can be an ass a lot of the time. Rereading some things I post makes me wonder.

Elusified - feel better now? XD

Show your prowess with love and understanding of the motherearths god given herb

I do like that though.

 

[100bucksaneigth]

i love canna. in my opinion it by far produces the best product in all aspects by comparison. then again almost everyone uses phosphoload and fucks everything up. i never used golden tree, is it like boost? out of curiousity has anyone figured out the active ingredient for boost? i heard it takes six months to ferment.

 

[elusified]

if it takes that long I would think it was composted plant material.just a guess though.

 

[Mikell]

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=208134

If Retro is correct, it's tria. There's instructions for a homemade version, it would be interesting to see a side by side.