He didn't say. But why don't you scroll up to see what Dubi said. You do know how to scroll through a thread, right?
I'm not in the know. Dubi said it all. Don't be lazy. Go check it yourself.
Nepal Jam
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He didn't say. But why don't you scroll up to see what Dubi said. You do know how to scroll through a thread, right?
I'm not in the know. Dubi said it all. Don't be lazy. Go check it yourself.
Ace and CBG are among my top favorites.Until real worldwide legalization happens and genetic testing becomes the standard, I think most purchasers understand that descriptions are about growth and effect characteristics. Until then, you have to decide who to support. I think Dubi and Charlie are at the top of the reputable breeder list. If Dubi was trying to scam people for $, he wouldn't have made the post you keep referring to. I give him more credit for stating that there is the possibility of uncertainties. Nobody really knows the true genetics of any strain.
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Bob Green
This was the description from Reeferman when I baught the original Nepalese P1 stock.
Nepalese Pure
The Nepalese pure is one of my breeding tools, I call it the missing link as it sits in the middle between Indica and Sativa. Its a must have for outcrossing to landrace sativas to maintain the Sative dominance but shorten flowering times and increase resin production. This is part of Willie Nelson, apple pie, lambada, etc
Im not lazy but its not a sativa/indica cross in a way that C99 is. It is a natrual in the middle landrace like many others. Not everything fits the way you want and there is no real clasification for the Nepalese used. It is neither Indica or Sativa. Neither WLD nor NLD just born in the middle.
But no I do not beleave Dubi crossed the Nepalese with anything to make the ACE version. Charlie breed the cross and just explained why he came up with the original description. Its right above your post yet you are still talking about Dubi making the cross. Talk about lazy.
I am no longer going to argue about it.
Bob ,
Great info. THANK you
Great info. THANK you
This fits with Dubi's comments on Sativa\Indica possible ancestry of Nepal Jam. He never said that they crossed it with Indica to develop the strain.
Thanks for the info bob.
Ace advertises it as 100% sativa.
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Bob Green
So what is it if not a Sativa? The Nepalese is not a hybrid but a landrace with a Sativa high and Indica bud structure. I just label that a winner, and you Sir are a weener.
Cannabliss420
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I have to say I agree with this, but then again I'm the 'worst' when it comes to genetics. I mean when I expect to find what I consider a 100% sativa (to breed with) I am easily turned off by vague background stories or short flowering times. That's just because I associate the term "100% sativa" with something very specific and I was taught to look at things this way by the seed industry.
If I hadn't made up a system of my own to differentiate between a 100% sativa and a "100% sativa" I might get upset after buying seeds that turn out looking different than expected, it happened to me before but rarely does today after I learned to read between the lines instead of thinking everybody is using the same vague terminoly.
You guys are absolutely right, in nature there is no sharp line between indica and sativa, even the terminolgy is out dated. The extremes do exist though, and these are what I use as my guidelines. I can't bring my self to call a 50/50 looking plant pure anything, but I am more than happy to be growing them for their unique characteristics. I am now growing mextiza that is 50% Nepjam and I have a feeling this is the grail I've been looking for.
I'm glad the subject was brought up because a more consistant system for classification is what we need, but at the end it's the plants that count and the work that goes into them. I don't think anyone is questioning the quality of Nepjam, we only see it a bit differently.
Back to Nepjam now.
It has some awesome oldschool genetics in it, grows vigorously and supposedly delivers and euphoric up high in less than two months of flowering. I'm of course gonna have to smoke it to be sure
edit: It's not a NepJam/Mextiza cross, it's a pure Mextiza.
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scai
Yep, if you went to Nepal and handpicked a weed.It's not Nepal, it's "Nepal".
But we do have to define plants somehow.
It's not very appetizing catalog if it it says
Maybe sativadominant
maybe indica dominant
this plant looks like sativa
This plant has two sativadominant ancestors...
Would you buy any?
So the breeders try to define their work somehow and I believe that if we are educated byers, we know that thay can't quarantee anything and we sure can't.
They can only describe plants and effects and give them names?
It's up to us to realize facts, not throw tantrums
But we do have to define plants somehow.
It's not very appetizing catalog if it it says
Maybe sativadominant
maybe indica dominant
this plant looks like sativa
This plant has two sativadominant ancestors...
Would you buy any?
So the breeders try to define their work somehow and I believe that if we are educated byers, we know that thay can't quarantee anything and we sure can't.
They can only describe plants and effects and give them names?
It's up to us to realize facts, not throw tantrums
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What genetic testing? How can you look for genes that form a subrace that humans have invented? What I'm trying to say is, there is no sativa gene you can test for.
If you take a tropical thai plant with really thin leaves, huge internodes and flowering period for 24+ weeks as a 100% sativa, anything less than that, like a pure haze that flowers 18 weeks, cant be considered 100% sativa either.
And if thats the case you should know from flowering length in breeders description what plants tend toward the sativa side and which do not.
Bottom line is that such pure sativas are useless to most people. Its the high you want. You should be thankful there are breeders that try to extract this sativa high and put it in a more hybrid growing plant. Because most only care about marketing and making easy money.
Sorry to hear that. You must live in a very humid environment. The good news is that it appears that the Zamaldelica is a special one for your climate.
ThaiBliss
I wouldn't call my environment very humid. My spot IS humid though, particularly this summer which has been relatively wet and although temps never got higher than 34 C, RH almost always fluctuated 60-80% keeping ground growth wet till about ten o 'clock in the morning...
However, that dead NepJam along with two others, infected but still fighting the "kraken", seem to refute dubi's claim about them being suitable for wet climate.
Needless to say I am not taking it out on him, not a pinch, I had just had high hopes that NepJam would make it in that excessively wet spot of mine...
Now my high hopes still remain with Jamaldelica and Bangi Haze that so far don't seem to bother. However, the critical time hasn't come yet since heavy flowering is still coming and rainfall will be dictating the hatching of the chicks
Orfeas
However, that dead NepJam along with two others, infected but still fighting the "kraken", seem to refute dubi's claim about them being suitable for wet climate.
Needless to say I am not taking it out on him, not a pinch, I had just had high hopes that NepJam would make it in that excessively wet spot of mine...
Now my high hopes still remain with Jamaldelica and Bangi Haze that so far don't seem to bother. However, the critical time hasn't come yet since heavy flowering is still coming and rainfall will be dictating the hatching of the chicks
Orfeashi,
unfortunately i can't mark anything in here as helpful. either im just not finding the button, or - probably - i dont have the rights, as i'm a new member to the icmag forum.
nevertheless, i'm really interested in ace seeds and have to thank dubi for the good representation in this forum.
I came here to see if ace seeds' plants are worth buying and i was not disappointed.
obviously many happy customers and really good advices and descriptions of the different strains by dubi and other users.
@dubi:
since i cant write you a pm, is there a way to contact you for questions on how to get seeds in mid europe?
keep up the good work!
Regards,
the guy beeing forced to write anonymous
unfortunately i can't mark anything in here as helpful. either im just not finding the button, or - probably - i dont have the rights, as i'm a new member to the icmag forum.
nevertheless, i'm really interested in ace seeds and have to thank dubi for the good representation in this forum.
I came here to see if ace seeds' plants are worth buying and i was not disappointed.
obviously many happy customers and really good advices and descriptions of the different strains by dubi and other users.
@dubi:
since i cant write you a pm, is there a way to contact you for questions on how to get seeds in mid europe?
keep up the good work!
Regards,
the guy beeing forced to write anonymous
