Can you tell if it's a female or male in Veg?

[Infinitesimal]

I guess the question is, is the plant sexually mature when it starts to preflower? In nature would the plant then switch to flowering phase or would it wait for the sun and light it wants to flower?

yes typically that means it is sexually mature, it would still continue to vegetate until it receives the proper photoperiod (daylight vs nighttime hours) for it to begin flowering which is based on genetics and the subsequent production of ethylene... except for in the cases of auto flowering varieties which are not sensitive to the photoperiod.

 

[Infinitesimal]

lol
Preflowers, as opposed to full blown flowers, generally appear after the fourth week of vegetative growth from seed. Check carefully above the fourth node. Please note that preflowers are very small and and almost impossible to differentiate without magnification. A photographer's 10x loupe is handy indeed when examining preflowers.

As the images below demonstrate, the female preflower is pear shaped and produces a pair of pistils. Frequently, the female preflowers do not show pistils until well after the preflowers have emerged. Thus, don't yank a plant because it has no pistils. Pistillate preflowers are located at the node between the stipule and emerging branch.

Also, some female preflowers never produce pistils. A female preflower without pistils is difficult to distinguish from a male preflower. Thus, hermaphodite issues should not be resolved by the appearance of preflowers, without pistils, on a plant otherwise believed to be a female.

you are right, some female pre-flowers never produce pistils... and only look like little cones or tear drops.

males do typically look different though, they resemble a crab claw.

 

[Infinitesimal]

I hate to break it to ya but if it showing hairs spurs pistils stamens or any kind pf sex organ, its not in veg. Its in flower. Sometimes males have opposing branches vs offset.

I hate to break it to ya, but you are 100% wrong... you are not helping anyone with this non sense. Did you make this up yourself? because I have no idea on earth where you would have learned this.

and if that were the case I would have the record for longest flowering plant that never produces flowers because it's still in veg and only produced PRE-FLOWERS.

please, go read a book... NOW

 

[bmp420gti]

So then mensa do you just flip your lights when you see preflowers? Or do you continue an 18/6 cycle when you get the growth you want?

 

[Infinitesimal]

So then mensa do you just flip your lights when you see preflowers? Or do you continue an 18/6 cycle when you get the growth you want?

EDIT: haha, I just realized you wrote mensa... when I responded I read "so that means". lol... good weed.

when you see pre flowers it means you can flip to flowering if you want to , or you can grow them larger if you'd like... just know that they keep growing taller and bushier for a couple weeks after flipping to a flower photoperiod.

the only reason you want until sexual maturity to flip is because one, they start flowering faster once flipped if they are mature... and two you may not get a full expression from a plant that was sexually immature but forced to flower... kinda like your old girl friend from high school, now she is a real woman and she's not the same girl you remember. (she probably has more curves )

 

[moses wellfleet]

I hate to break it to ya but if it showing hairs spurs pistils stamens or any kind pf sex organ, its not in veg. Its in flower. Sometimes males have opposing branches vs offset.

After you were called out the first time. You might have gone and checked your facts?

Being a noob is not a crime, we are all here to learn, and share information... Being an idiot is a crime, you are now deliberately spreading misinformation, and you are doing it repeatedly!

With your level of knowledge I doubt you have ever completed a successful grow, there are however sites for people like you. ROLL IT UP is one, you will feel right at home there. Please pack your bags and be gone!

 

[Infinitesimal]

mensa must have lowered their standards lately, or someone just has a high unjustified cough cough opinion of themselves. I sense a little penis envy, a need to prove herself to the boys... that she know's how to play ball, and probably better than them too. Damn that sneaky lil ego.

I digress, I hope she stays around and becomes open to actually learning a thing or two, no need to alienate or excommunicate any one who wants join the community.

hell I still get schooled by people who have specialized knowledge in certain areas that I am not as well versed in, everyday almost, and i revel in that shit... I don't continue to argue my ignorant position in the face sound reason. But It's a humbling thing that not everyone has faced before and can be difficult for some to deal with... I know it wasnt the easiest thing for me either at first and still isn't in all reality and takes a real conscious effort on my part to notice the those impulses and check myself.... and that's a little advice I think anyone could use from time to time.

 

[moses wellfleet]

It is possible in today's world that you could go through your entire growing career, never germinating a seed. If you live in med states all your clone needs are provided for by dispensaries, hydro shops, etc.

But such a 'grower' has no place coming into this thread, to impart their (lack of) knowledge!

Such a situation makes for a soulless grower IMHO.

It all starts with a seed!

 

[bmp420gti]

I dunno if we need to be hating she may be technically right that what we think of as extended veg time is really sexually mature pre flower growth time, though plants are certainly not blooming just cause preflowers are showing. I wish she would explain when she makes the light flip.

 

[Psyco G]

I hate to break it to ya but if it showing hairs spurs pistils stamens or any kind pf sex organ, its not in veg. Its in flower. Sometimes males have opposing branches vs offset.

Is this user for real????? Lol, I'm not sure if it's a wind up or not


I sometimes have plants that show preflowers months before I flip them, they are certainly not in flower. Branches growing side by side happen when you grow from seed, the alternate branching comes from clones and mature plants. This is just my opinion and in no way fact.

 

[Psyco G]

Ah okay thanks so it's preflowers in veg. Oh yeah I'm not worried about them releasing the pollen so much yet I just want to get rid of the males so I have less big plants to water and take care of I have around 12 now and it's a pain to check ec ph and water them every other day.

Don't worry about pollen you have ages before that happens bro, you will know they are male ages before they think about dumping a load. And any preflower that might accidentally get through will drop pollen long before your girls are ready to recieve it. But with a vigilent eye you can spot males a mile off when they show

 

[BOMBAYCAT]

Sometimes after the plant grows to 5th or 6th node, the females will start the alternate branching as it is a sign of sexual maturity of the plant. The males keep on branching opposite each other. Best to check for preflowers though.

 

[Psyco G]

Males got alternate to if you let them get old enough, it's a sign of sexual maturity like you say

 

[NoSocSlic]

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Sorry I posted on the wrong thread...

 

[fiveonit]

okay spotted 1 male few days ago and another male yesterday chopped them and threw them out. I have that I am sure of now 5 females just wish the other three are femlaes too. Its the last time im goin with regular seeds.

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

If you put the veg un-sexed plants under short photoperiod for one night they will show sex a week or two later. Sometime very late long maturing plants require 2 maybe even 3 nights, like 20+ week flowering hazes. You need to be careful with early fast maturing varieties they may sex and not go back veg. Only give them one night and they should be fine.
Or you can make clones of all the plants and put the clones under short hours of light and they will sex. I have done it with unrooted clones.
This is real easy to find the sex early, and then let it veg till you are ready to flower.
I only use regular seeds, you can switch over to all females, or female clones, but I don't really like the all female or use them. I like male plants they are half the genome, at least traditionally.
Do what you like....
-SamS

 

[Johnnyseed]

If you put the veg un-sexed plants under short photoperiod for one night they will show sex a week or two later. Sometime very late long maturing plants require 2 maybe even 3 nights, like 20+ week flowering hazes. You need to be careful with early fast maturing varieties they may sex and not go back veg. Only give them one night and they should be fine.
Or you can make clones of all the plants and put the clones under short hours of light and they will sex. I have done it with unrooted clones.
This is real easy to find the sex early, and then let it veg till you are ready to flower.
I only use regular seeds, you can switch over to all females, or female clones, but I don't really like the all female or use them. I like male plants they are half the genome, at least traditionally.
Do what you like....
-SamS

Very very true. I used this method to sex early males and breed faster. The only thing ive noticed from this method. Is that you cannot see any details of the plant. Since it is now immature in growth

 

[Johnnyseed]

Ive bred this one plant for a couple years. It came from bagseed Columbian brick. Ive sexed the plant a couple times to keep it around.

Everytime ive popped the seeds, there were really small differences in the small men and women plants. The males have this "limp" characteristic about them. The growth of sll the males never "reached for the sky" as most female plants do ALL during growth.

Mind you, ive been growing that plant for sum time and I was VERY used to to the plants charactEristics.

Anyway, the male plants grew but not as vigorous as the females.

I managed to get the plants to sex early as well.
hopefully these pics show

One male, I was able to sex EARLY. You will see the sacs on the head.

Also, the male is on the left, female plant "reaching to the sky" on right side

If u tske a look at my earlier posting, you'll see the male that I sexed early just how Sam S reiterated for us.

 

[fiveonit]

Okay thanks for the advice guys really appreciate it.
I will also go with less plants like 4 plants and focus just on them instead of 10. It's to hard to keep track and take care of all of them. I think from what i've learned it's way easier and better to have 4 big plants instead of 10 or so medium size ones.

 

[aridbud]

Pen light test anyone?