Confirmed cases of Pneumothorax from smoking/vaping BHO

[LyryC]

Just take a small dose. Its not a tool to measure dicks, its medication so don't take half gram dabs and think its cool...

Don't hit HOT(red) NAILS. Thats how you burn your lungs.

And most importantly, Start with good concentrates.

I posted a pic of my shatter, and its way cleaner and smoother than anything I can get from anyone - brick n mortar or on the street...

And for the record, I'm not from Socal, just cause im here.

I don't cough from my dab hits. Maybe 3 minutes later cause my lungs are cleaning up and their soft coughs with no stress or heavy pressure.

Just don't dab dark or runny material. Aim for shatter if you want good BHO. Don't smoke other peoples shit unless you know and trust them.

Vape.

 

[Hashmasta-Kut]

taking half gram dabs is cool, if you like to get totally flambayed occasionally

 

[soysoz]

HOLY FUCK !!!!!!! someone else get's the idea, thank you....

Consider that at the same rate you acquire reclaim around your nail and piece you are also collecting this reclaim around your throat and lungs. Concentrates do not inherently have tar, tar is the byproduct of the combustion of certain polar molecules, as is the rest of the reclaim. They do, however, often have inherently high amounts of lipids, which in such high concentrations can lead to lipid pneumonia and a collapsed lung.

Your inability to synthesize and think critically about others' information will be your downfall.

 

[toketronix]

Concentrates do not inherently have tar, tar is the byproduct of the combustion....

Pointless hair-splitting ...this thread is about dabbing which involves combustion, so the BHO as it's being inhaled will contain tar.

But you're right as long as the BHO stays in the jar and is never dabbed it will never contain tar...

 

[toketronix]

Or the Pneumothorax from edibles thread ?

 

[Hashmasta-Kut]

Pointless hair-splitting ...this thread is about dabbing which involves combustion, so the BHO as it's being inhaled will contain tar.

dabbing is done in a way that most of the product is vaporized, very little tar. if you actually combust your material its getting smoked, yeah, but dabbing is not smoking, hardly at all, especially when you practice dabbing extra cool.

 

[HighStateToke]

Mildly on topic, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qxft2SFJ6Uw

30:00 and 50:00, or the whole thing if you've got the time.

Shared this with a friend who is a heavy dabber and it definitely gave him a jolt.

 

[mingmen]

dont get overly creative . that was a serious question . vaping bubble off ti makes me cough and have trouble breathing sometimes . i bet if i could get enough people to start vaping bubble non stop there would probably be a few similar cases of collapsed lungs . most likely wouldn't be the people who make it for themselves tho .

That is a pretty big "if". Besides I think it is the coughing causing the pnemo. Your hypothesis is suspect

 

[soysoz]

Or the Pneumothorax from edibles thread ?

No need to make a mockery of your own misinformation. The very molecules that harm our lungs can be very beneficial when ingested orally or topically, including many of the lipids and other polars like chlorophyll. BHO that has not been carefully winterized has very high concentrations of lipids that are not naturally occurring phytocannabinoids.

The metabolic pathway and organs involved in oral ingestion compared with smoking are very different, and the salient point is that not all organs are as robust as others.

As far as tar goes, an absolute produces much lower levels than any other concentrate. This is just common sense.

 

[mingmen]

not really since nobody dabs bubble like people dab bho. took alot of guniea pigs for the collapsed lung thing to get talked about. the number of users isn't really high enough right now to be able to tell if it has the same effect or not . i know smoking bubble and dry sift with a flame and screen only make me cough like i have a cold they dont make me dry heave if i over heat and take to large of a rip like bho or bubble from ti . have to heat a nail a little hotter for bubble then you do for bho and the sweet spot does not last as long so it seems like to me it would almost be easier to do that with bubble then with bho.

you could be right although I think there are other better reasons to go only bubble.
I may not know what all these kids are up to - I take very conservative size dabs.
Ice wax is the rage here but it will take forever to switch them over and find out.
I still think it is the cough and size hit and not the content of the dab causing pneumo. Bho is never going to be good for your lungs though

 

[KiefSweat]

smoking regular pressed hash dry or water and you'll start feeling the hash lung. Shits heavy.

 

[toketronix]

dabbing is done in a way that most of the product is vaporized, very little tar. if you actually combust your material its getting smoked, yeah, but dabbing is not smoking, hardly at all, especially when you practice dabbing extra cool.

most,
very little,
hardly at all

Combustion is like being pregnant, you either are or aren't...the vast majority of dabbers are combusting, very few are using the necessary tools to stay within vapour temps.

 

[toketronix]

No need to make a mockery of your own misinformation.

No need to get all butt hurt, it will only effect your judgement & can even cause a sense of humour failure in some units.

...but we digress, I see you've now come round to my way of thinking, very common sensible of you.

Concentrates do not inherently have tar

As far as tar goes, an absolute produces much lower levels of tar than any other concentrate. This is just common sense.

 

[toketronix]

vaping bubble off ti makes me cough and have trouble breathing sometimes

Why not vape your bubble using a vaporizer?

 

[Hashmasta-Kut]

Combustion is like being pregnant, you either are or aren't...the vast majority of dabbers are combusting, very few are using the necessary tools to stay within vapour temps.

no its not. even in a joint it is partially vaporized.

 

[Hashmasta-Kut]

i think the sublimator might be good for that.

 

[90days]

Didn't read the whole thread..... but I have had a spontaneous Pneumothorax and this was before dabing.. it is somewhat common in young men that are tall and thin, most likely from large growth spurts.

The reason your lung collapse is because of a blister or blisters that form from the growth spurts.

This has nothing to do with dabs or smoking weed in general, just another bs scare tactic be people that think weed is the devil.


I also know three other people that this happened to and they had never smoked a day in their lives.


Make no mistake the lung collapses because of a blister on the lung which is a genetic defect!!!

 

[soysoz]

No need to get all butt hurt, it will only effect your judgement & can even cause a sense of humour failure in some units.

...but we digress, I see you've now come round to my way of thinking, very common sensible of you.

Sorry, but you must have mistaken me for somebody who gives a shit. I see no humor in derailing a serious health-related thread with your own misinformation.

You've missed several salient points by now, so I'll let you piece the rest of the puzzle together.

 

[GeorgeWBush]

Didn't read the whole thread..... but I have had a spontaneous Pneumothorax and this was before dabing.. it is somewhat common in young men that are tall and thin, most likely from large growth spurts.

The reason your lung collapse is because of a blister or blisters that form from the growth spurts.

This has nothing to do with dabs or smoking weed in general, just another bs scare tactic be people that think weed is the devil.


I also know three other people that this happened to and they had never smoked a day in their lives.


Make no mistake the lung collapses because of a blister on the lung which is a genetic defect!!!

this is just ignorance.......has everything to do with dabbing...eve ry thing......So according to you there is only 1 possible way to get it, just 1 right ? ignorance

 

[Hashmasta-Kut]

lol you are hilarious mr bush. people with real experience aren't ignorant. you are being ignorant by trying to spread misinformation, however.