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If you live in a Legal Cannabis State and are unhappy post here!
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Who's looking for a boogie man?
barnyard
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stations and multiple budtenders...one station to show your id...one for flower...one for concentrates...one for POS...and they had this big island in the middle you had to walk around...I got so dizzy by the time I was ready to leave I walked into the only station I hadn't visited...the clone room...and asked if it was the exit! I wish I could of got a picture of the looks on the guys faces checking out the clones! lol
I find it sort of odd that being "well-informed" instead of ranting & raving would EVER be used as a put-down aimed at someone. I think most of us HAVE decided what is or is not "the truth" for ourselves. it just is not what others have decided for themselves to be true....and what is up with the huge red letters? is that how one "shouts" on the internet these days? I must not be "hip" or "with it" or something...
thank God for small favors!
thank God for small favors!
I find it sort of odd that being "well-informed" instead of ranting & raving would EVER be used as a put-down aimed at someone. Are you female???
You twist words better than my wife! I think most of us HAVE decided what is or is not "the truth" for ourselves. So when the CEO announces a plan to the public.. you still refuse to believe what the company themselves state is true??? You are still in denial(did you read the post?) it just is not what others have decided for themselves to be true....and what is up with the huge red letters? is that how one "shouts" on the internet these days? I must not be "hip" or "with it" or something.(again I state do you even read before typing??..
You people are in the wrong thread!!
If you live in a Legal Cannabis State and are unhappy post here!
You have contributed nothing but trouble to this tread!
Some may call that trolling....causing trouble, just to disrupt things.
Why not let people with real problems speak???
Or is this one of those kinda places...LIKE ....If I want you to have an opinion I will give it to?
The same names have disrupted this thread and another I started, just to state, over everyone else, that there are no problems we face currently?
If you are foolish enough to believe that Big ag. companies are not moving into your state for the purpose of profiting in anyway they can from legal cannabis you really have bigger things to worry about.
I never in a million years thought anyone here would ever defend Monsanto???
With that I leave you with your Monsanto weed.
Me.... I say not if I can help it.
See you trolls on the next thread I know you won't be able to resist.
If you are trying to keep me quiet.....then you are going about it the wrong way....this just makes me try harder.
shag
There are a lot of funny points of view in this thread, and did I read about somebody defending Monsanto? Maybe you should also be defending Hitler,Stalin, Mao Zedong or the Devil himself, some people are so lost.
The funniest thing is this comment about Jhhnn. His personal agenda couldn't be more on the table, he is a bleeding heart progressive liberal (marxist) that can't or wont ever see the other side. I find in life one side is never 100% right, or hardly 50% right even, and if you can't ever break from your party then you are a sheep.
Continue on, the powers that be are laughing.
Your black market growers aren't meeting those requirements, quite by design.
It wouldn't be a problem at all to hire more inspectors (create more jobs) to deal with residential growers. Gypsy ball reading, pom pom waving cheerleaders believe that it would.
I don't know about that. The Feds might have a problem with a lot of residential growers on the black market not paying taxes. Whether they change laws to allow for taxes to be payed, or not, they'll have a problem with that aspect of your system.
They'll start taxing, or busting residential growers...in a "legal" cannabis system.
lmao!
Do you seriously believe that? You sound like a salesman.
Half the people you buy weed from nowadays in illegal states are getting it from Colorado. Your system can't control that any better than California. 6 plant restrictions and residential restrictions on supplying retail stores aren't stopping that from happening at all. As I have said before if your system worked then it would make sense, but it doesn't. It's a total failure at containing and controlling weed production and distribution. Just because you have this myth written on paper doesn't make it a reality. People are growing weed in houses and making damn good money doing it. All while your state loses money.
Your dispensary owners are selling product under the table and shipping it out of state. I know this for a fact. I know people buying directly from them under the table.
impressive! MORE big red letters...
nope, not female. send your wife over & i'll prove it to her. not twisting any words either, and I have not seen anyone defending Monsanto. I have not seen anyone preventing anyone with "problems" from posting, either. causing trouble? contact the site & maybe a moderator will hold your hand till the ouchie goes away. you don't want people to decide for themselves what is true, you want them to believe YOU, much as a "man of the cloth" seeks disciples amongst the uneducated/illiterate. of course Monsanto etc are going to try to make money, that is what corporations do. but you will not stop them from doing that by screeching at everyone that does not bite on your hook, line & sinker without question. that takes education with facts, told in a clear concise manner, not by being "loud", confrontational and conspiratorial. so far, you aint doing so good...
Still stuck on that? huh!
Wow thats all ya got??
You just proved yourself a troll
Or is it good to go around trying to start a fight?
You have all the answers...right.
Is a person who acts in the manner that you do a troll or just a trouble maker....I know your kind.
In our neck of the woods we call them shit starters!
It would be silly to expect grown men to discuss matters of importance,without being petty and abusive behavior(shit starting)
You really should get a life if the highlight of your day is harassing me!
Trolls bring out the worst in me.....I will not lower my morals for lowlifes!
shag
Wow thats all ya got??
You just proved yourself a troll
Or is it good to go around trying to start a fight?
You have all the answers...right.
Is a person who acts in the manner that you do a troll or just a trouble maker....I know your kind.
In our neck of the woods we call them shit starters!
It would be silly to expect grown men to discuss matters of importance,without being petty and abusive behavior(shit starting)
You really should get a life if the highlight of your day is harassing me!
Trolls bring out the worst in me.....I will not lower my morals for lowlifes!
shag
that takes education with facts,
Ok. Well, claiming that weed isn't being sold under the table and shipped across Colorado state lines is a lie. Not a fact.
It genuinely seems like the majority of people I know in my illegal state get their weed from Colorado. Not California. It just seems like the quality of weed on the black market has gone down, as a result.
I have not seen anyone claim that there was no weed coming from med states to illegal states. I have bought bud here from both Colorado AND California, some of it in what looked like Dispensary packaging. but I would bet a c-note to your penny that it was being sold by the individuals buying from(or selling to) the dispensary instead of coming straight from the dispensary. they have too much to lose to risk doing that. the quality of "commercial" weed here has doubled in the last two years. we are seeing damn good weed for about the same price of the bricked stuff that used to be around. VIVA LEGALIZATION! just because someone sold you pot from a dispensary does not mean that the dispensary "sold it under the table" to them. it MIGHT just mean that, as usual, the guy selling it is lying to try to get a better price -"hey dude! you want some top-shelf OG Kush? the guy I know at the dispensary & me are big pals..."
Thanks for that. Kinda.
I'm just an old refugee from the 60's. I like to think I'm a realist.
I see all this Libertopian Sovereign Citizen stuff as a trojan horse, because I see who's paid to put it out there for the last 35 years or so. I see adherents as ruthlessly exploited & myopically blind, just where the propagandists of the Right want them to be. They use our best qualities against us in a divisive manner.
The powers that be, as you say, constantly seek higher levels of organization & power, now at the international level. Working their Will on the populace would be a lot easier if it weren't for the Government of the People, something entirely different from their idea of govt entirely. If they owned the Govt, they wouldn't be trying to convince the people to tear it down.
If that makes too much sense, I suggest that you need to back out of your own belief structure & re-evaluate, free of the ideology they've worked so hard to get you to embrace.
Sometimes the People find a way to transcend all the divisive ideology they've swallowed, come together to try to make govt work better for us, not for the people at the top. We need to see that other people's POV can be legit if we're to do that, and to compromise.
A64 does that, bringing together divergent interests & concerns to bypass the legislature entirely. We even forced them to become a part of it, to actually implement it pretty much as intended.
If cannabiphiles hadn't recognized the concerns of non-involved parents, none would be onboard. If we hadn't structured it to give business & govt a piece of the pie, none of them would have been onboard, either. If we hadn't offered to pay sin taxes, a lot of people would have seen nothing in it for themselves.
I could go on, but I figure you're probably starting to get the point.
If I couldn't see the other side, grant them some legitimacy, I wouldn't have been able to say any of that.
Time for some trolls to eat crow
I found this on a stockholders site
If successful, the company could be operating one of the premier brands in cannabis while simultaneously growing a base of suppliers through its land management business - an attractive and diversified position in a rapidly growing industry.
This is their own words!!
Can this be denied as more of my personal opinion!
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ag...active-niches-in-cannabis-industry-2014-07-28
I found this on a stockholders site
If successful, the company could be operating one of the premier brands in cannabis while simultaneously growing a base of suppliers through its land management business - an attractive and diversified position in a rapidly growing industry.
This is their own words!!
Can this be denied as more of my personal opinion!
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ag...active-niches-in-cannabis-industry-2014-07-28
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no crow for me, thanks. like I said; "sure, corporations will try to make money, that is what corporations do." where does your post say that they will have a monopoly? it DOES say "if successful". as Sam said "are YOU going to buy it? I'm not..." if their shit is great and cheap, lots of folks will go for it. if it is half-assed & high-dollar, they have wasted their money & time. time for you to take a taste of reality. there will ALWAYS be someone out there growing "the shit" whether it is legal or not. "ya pays yer money, you takes yer own risks" "attractive niches" I see it says, not "world domination & death to the little people" , LOL!
I think you're mostly correct. Our MMJ system is "leaky", & the one in CA even more so, obviously.
If you've seen weed in dispensary packaging, it was probably sold to a med patient who sent it on to his friends at a profit. That's how a lot of CO street weed gets on the street, has been all along.
It's also leaky at another level, at the level where growers divert part of their production to other markets. We saw that when the DEA busted the Uribe clan, coming at them from the direction of their underworld connections in FL. None of that alleged diversion is delivered in dispensary packaging. Bet on it.
It's very important for large black market operators to maintain legit front operations, regardless of what they're doing. It's rule #1. It's cover & a way to launder money, make it appear to have come from legit commerce. Any cash business will do- Laundromat, car wash, vending company, MMJ dispensary, too. At a higher level, it works in buying & selling through offshore business entities that only exist on paper, pushing money through tax havens.
The seed to sale controls for CO retail MJ are designed to keep legit business legit in ways that previous methods could not. OTOH, it has created cover & opportunity for black market folks, too. A couple could do it Gettogro style, harvest 45-50 lbs per year from 6 flowering plants, ship it out to other markets. The only way to get busted is from that end- shipping it or a rollover from an associate. Well, there's the whole cashflow bank account lifestyle taxman side, too. The actual grow? perfectly legal. 6 flowering plants, 6 more in veg being groomed to get really, really big.
Fail at that game & they will break your balls. It's what they live for.
no crow for me, thanks. like I said; "sure, corporations will try to make money, that is what corporations do." where does your post say that they will have a monopoly? it DOES say "if successful". as Sam said "are YOU going to buy it? I'm not..." if their shit is great and cheap, lots of folks will go for it. if it is half-assed & high-dollar, they have wasted their money & time. time for you to take a taste of reality. there will ALWAYS be someone out there growing "the shit" whether it is legal or not. "ya pays yer money, you takes yer own risks" "attractive niches" I see it says, not "world domination & death to the little people" , LOL!
Indeed. It comes down to whether you're a boogeyman believer or not. Prohibitionists had their reefer madness boogeyman, and now we're just seeing another one, the evil Monsanto monopoly boogeyman. Not that they'd turn down the opportunity, but they're not getting it in CO.
They'll take what they can get, and be damned smart about doing it, too. It's called business. They're good at it.
At a personal level, I know what brand of vaporizer not to buy.
From what I've seen, the entire "Seed to Sale" tracking is only as good as the enforcement behind it. The reality is that the phrase has been used many times to pump up the sensationalism of it all in the press while at the same time, the MMED that was created to enforce and oversee the Cultivation side of the MMJ program was basically dismantled/downsized shortly after it's inception and went from 50 occifers to 12 occifers. The press had a heyday there for awhile because they found out that the MMED actually had more NEW Suburbans in their parking lot than they had employees. Without a doubt they burned through that 11 million they brought in in licensing in that first week in a flash.
Thus...the yummy warehouse weed on the street/heading to neighboring states in >whatever< container it can be placed in to garner top dollar at it's end destination.
there are also many, many folks who moved here to grow under our laws/extended med counts who send/take their entire harvest "back home"...and those who live here who also have something going on elsewhere. Same as it ever was...same as it ever was...same as it ever was... (only now there's more pot than there ever was across the board)
Thus...the yummy warehouse weed on the street/heading to neighboring states in >whatever< container it can be placed in to garner top dollar at it's end destination.
there are also many, many folks who moved here to grow under our laws/extended med counts who send/take their entire harvest "back home"...and those who live here who also have something going on elsewhere. Same as it ever was...same as it ever was...same as it ever was... (only now there's more pot than there ever was across the board)
Jhhnn just claimed that.
The difference is California has a system of registration for residential growers. Colorado does not.
In Colorado? Not from what I hear/see. It's all oils and extracts made from mid-grade in Colorado.
I wouldn't smoke it. I hear it's all garbage from people I know in Colorado.
It does when they actually purchased pounds of it from them under the table.gl
All the Colorado weed is priced cheaper in my state because it sucks ass.
99% of it sucks dick.
