roflmao!
of course these are Russian special forces, or at the least Russian trained and paid mercenaries. no way these are a bunch of locals, right?
wrong!
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Malaysian airliner crashes in E. Ukraine
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roflmao!
of course these are Russian special forces, or at the least Russian trained and paid mercenaries. no way these are a bunch of locals, right?
wrong!
G`day Jump
Comrade Putin will be visiting Down Under for the G20 conference in the near future .
It will be interesting to see the editorial bias ...
How brave fight Dill .
Can you help with who / what Dill means in Russia ?
Thanks for sharin
EB .
Comrade Putin will be visiting Down Under for the G20 conference in the near future .
It will be interesting to see the editorial bias ...
How brave fight Dill .
Can you help with who / what Dill means in Russia ?
Thanks for sharin
EB .
G`day Elmer!
Dill in Russian called "укроп (ukrop)" is consonant with Ukraine, the word is used as a derogatory name of Ukrainian nationalists.
Those in response, called the Russian "Colorado" because of their coloring striped ribbons,
similar to the coloring of the Colorado potato beetle, a pest of potatoes.
Striped ribbon in Russian symbolizes the victory over fascism in World War II.
As the main character in the Ukrainian nationalists is Stepan Bandera, who fought on the side of Hitler,
"Russian separatists" call them as "Bandera" and fascists.
Black-and-white portrait of Bandera, executed in the style of Che Guevara,
as well as his runic modification of swastika can be seen in abundance in YouTube,
in videos on the current standoff in Ukraine.
It's only few of a long list extending into history.
Full listing of modern offensive nicknames with an explanation of the etymology would be too long and will go beyond the topic.
If you are interested in the history of Ukraine, here is a short excursion with English subtitles.
http://youtu.be/liG-5uH9eEs
Do you remember how in our conversations on the site of Persephone,
I said that served as a soldier in the fighter aircraft in Kramatorsk (71-73)?
I never thought that this place will remind of itself in such a horrible way.
http://youtu.be/LtaWsdtC93U#t=59 Here you can see the stripe on the sleeve, the blue-yellow flag of Ukraine.
Ask him ^ who pushed the button.
This is Igor Kolomoyskiy, one of the real owners and puppeteer of Ukraine and their public politicians,
the owner of army units and air traffic control services, a person with a criminal past,
now the governor and the main suspect in the organization of this disaster and other bloody events in Ukraine.
G`day Jump
I did think of you and the interceptor bro .
I smiled when I realised you are "retired " .
Yes I know of the Neo Nazi`s in Ukraine . I saw them burn down a building with their opposition begging for mercy inside .
And old Johny Mc Cain is their friend .
The Caucasus is heating up now . US / Nato instruments of war being moved .
My question is how does the muslim majority country Malaysia tie into this giant hegemony game ?
Thanks for sharin
EB .
I did think of you and the interceptor bro .
I smiled when I realised you are "retired " .
Yes I know of the Neo Nazi`s in Ukraine . I saw them burn down a building with their opposition begging for mercy inside .
And old Johny Mc Cain is their friend .
The Caucasus is heating up now . US / Nato instruments of war being moved .
My question is how does the muslim majority country Malaysia tie into this giant hegemony game ?
Thanks for sharin
EB .
i watched carefully and so far i didnt see the Ukrainian flag on any of their sleeves. i think if they were regular army they'd be in better uniforms no? for one split second you see a flash of yellow and blue on one guys shoulder arm, is that what you meant?
Off Topic, but I don´t wanted to open a new thread.
Thanks USA for bombing the IS terorrists, give them more!!
Over and out.
Thanks USA for bombing the IS terorrists, give them more!!
Over and out.
do you mean give them more training and weapons to fight Syria's Bashir Assad? or do you mean drop more bombs on them, lol? the US has been doing both so you need to be specific.
seriously though if they are really stopping the danger of a genocide like is being reported, good for the US and Obama, nice to see them on the right side of morality.
what i hope is that this teaches the Obama admin, that the enemy of my enemy, is not always my friend. stop arming the isis fighters claiming to fight Assad if you really want to help the Kurds and the Maliki gov in Iraq to stand a chance against these guys. is is one group who borders mean nothing to. they will take advantage of weakness no matter where they find it.
anyway this is really off topic, have you noticed how quite the accusers have become? isn't it strange? still no voice recordings made public even though thats as easy as loading film from your camera to computer and pressing play. last Malaysian flight which disappeared we got the radio communications withing a very short time, this time nothing, in fact we know that Kiev confiscated their own air controllers audio records. further more to this day, the US has shown nothing that could be called hard evidence, absolutely nothing. no radar readings from their ships in the black sea wargaming at the time, no satellite images, not one pic with either missile system being delivered, nor one of it being deployed, forget pics of it being operated, nor pics of it being taken back over the border. in fact so far; NOTHING!
it is incredibly complicated to operate the buk system, it requires a trained crew. it also requires 2 separate radar equipped vehicles. the launcher also needs to light up the target with radar. when operated like this there is no way to mistake a civilian air liner with a military machine. now if you tried to operate it with just the launcher you'd have a very hard time to actually get your target, although with spotters in radio contact to inform the launching team it might work. emphasis on might, could also just go after another plane nearby.
anyway the point is; Russia has shown pics of these things deployed by Kiev forces, in exactly the right place to be the guilty party, while areas Kiev pointed to as the staging ground were totally lacking any evidence on the ground, no launching marks, not one civilian to corroborate the claims by Kiev and no satellite images confirming the accusation.
find it typical that all interest in this goes away as soon as it looks like it wasn't the Russians fault after all, or the rebels fault for that matter.
seriously though if they are really stopping the danger of a genocide like is being reported, good for the US and Obama, nice to see them on the right side of morality.
what i hope is that this teaches the Obama admin, that the enemy of my enemy, is not always my friend. stop arming the isis fighters claiming to fight Assad if you really want to help the Kurds and the Maliki gov in Iraq to stand a chance against these guys. is is one group who borders mean nothing to. they will take advantage of weakness no matter where they find it.
anyway this is really off topic, have you noticed how quite the accusers have become? isn't it strange? still no voice recordings made public even though thats as easy as loading film from your camera to computer and pressing play. last Malaysian flight which disappeared we got the radio communications withing a very short time, this time nothing, in fact we know that Kiev confiscated their own air controllers audio records. further more to this day, the US has shown nothing that could be called hard evidence, absolutely nothing. no radar readings from their ships in the black sea wargaming at the time, no satellite images, not one pic with either missile system being delivered, nor one of it being deployed, forget pics of it being operated, nor pics of it being taken back over the border. in fact so far; NOTHING!
it is incredibly complicated to operate the buk system, it requires a trained crew. it also requires 2 separate radar equipped vehicles. the launcher also needs to light up the target with radar. when operated like this there is no way to mistake a civilian air liner with a military machine. now if you tried to operate it with just the launcher you'd have a very hard time to actually get your target, although with spotters in radio contact to inform the launching team it might work. emphasis on might, could also just go after another plane nearby.
anyway the point is; Russia has shown pics of these things deployed by Kiev forces, in exactly the right place to be the guilty party, while areas Kiev pointed to as the staging ground were totally lacking any evidence on the ground, no launching marks, not one civilian to corroborate the claims by Kiev and no satellite images confirming the accusation.
find it typical that all interest in this goes away as soon as it looks like it wasn't the Russians fault after all, or the rebels fault for that matter.
Hello Gaius, god thanks my english is to bad to write much. Booth, the americans shall make the air support for the kurds and they shall give them the best weapons and equickment. I like the kurds, man and woman fight together, they are moderate, have respect for other religions. And they´re fucked since Generations. They need the support of the US and the western world. In booth foolish Iraque wars they were the allies of the US. At last the iraque problem needs a political solution but until then , BOMBS AWAY!
Save the yazidi people and the christians and all people who are against the Islamic State.
Who knows what happened in the future? The clash with the IS is just a question of time, 6 weeks, 6 month or mabe in 6 years?
Save the yazidi people and the christians and all people who are against the Islamic State.
Who knows what happened in the future? The clash with the IS is just a question of time, 6 weeks, 6 month or mabe in 6 years?
The U.S. is intervening for political as well as military reasons. Washington says that more such military aid may be forthcoming if Iraq will form a government of national unity. So basically, Obama is putting pressure on President Fuad Massoum to pick a prime minister other than Nouri al-Maliki and form a government asap. Likewise, Washington wants the Kurds to remain within a Federal Iraqi framework rather than declaring independence, and seems to be bombing IS positions for the Kurds in order to extract a promise from Kurdistan president Massoud Barzani that he will stay in Iraq.
The U.S. used close air support with the Kurdish peshmerga during the invasion of Iraq in 2003. Bush couldn’t send U.S. troops into the north because the Fourth Infantry Division had been denied permission to march through Turkish Anatolia on their way to Iraq. So the U.S. used the Peshmerga a surrogate troops. It worked then, against the Baath Army of Saddam Hussein. The U.S. also provided close air support to the Northern Alliance in Afghanisan, which enabled it to take Mazar, Herat and many other cities from the Taliban.
The U.S. used close air support with the Kurdish peshmerga during the invasion of Iraq in 2003. Bush couldn’t send U.S. troops into the north because the Fourth Infantry Division had been denied permission to march through Turkish Anatolia on their way to Iraq. So the U.S. used the Peshmerga a surrogate troops. It worked then, against the Baath Army of Saddam Hussein. The U.S. also provided close air support to the Northern Alliance in Afghanisan, which enabled it to take Mazar, Herat and many other cities from the Taliban.
Sorry about being off topic.
I wish my fellow Americans had a longer attention span. WE CREATED ISIS. They were the "freedom fighters" everyone was overly enthusiastic about arming to overthrow the Syrian government. Now look. They wont stop. The crazy fucks think they are going to raise their flag over the white house. They mean business. Al queada was a joke compared to these dudes. They are running over the flimsy national governments we established for the explicit goal of exploiting the puppet leaders in it, and then stealing all the weapons we left there.
This also leaves the war hawks in both parties profiting from all of this to call for invasions where ever ISIS goes like Iran. Their Raytheon and Halliburton stocks are going to improve but tons of people are going to die because of it. They don't give a crap. They are enabling the process by not following the constitution and going in on very sketchy intelligence or lies. They are just going to repeat the process regardless of the outcome.
Identifying Different Psychopaths
[YOUTUBEIF]MIHtUUieyhM[/YOUTUBEIF]
Im no astrologist ,but if the last decade of military intervention for really questionable reasons didn't work and created more enemies and power vacuums for nut cases to take over we are just going to get the same result again. When is enough, enough ?
Our vets are coming back all fucked up mentally and physically, if they survive the war some just choose suicide instead of reliving those nightmares. Some are forced to live on psychotropic drugs which is no life at all and they tend to make them more suicidal.
I don't have an answer besides to quite while we still can. Worry about our own people first.
The Spread of the Caliphate: The Islamic State (Part 1)
[YOUTUBEIF]bsCZzpmbEcs[/YOUTUBEIF]
Grooming Children for Jihad: The Islamic State (Part 2)
[YOUTUBEIF]jzCAPJDAnQA[/YOUTUBEIF]
I wish my fellow Americans had a longer attention span. WE CREATED ISIS. They were the "freedom fighters" everyone was overly enthusiastic about arming to overthrow the Syrian government. Now look. They wont stop. The crazy fucks think they are going to raise their flag over the white house. They mean business. Al queada was a joke compared to these dudes. They are running over the flimsy national governments we established for the explicit goal of exploiting the puppet leaders in it, and then stealing all the weapons we left there.
This also leaves the war hawks in both parties profiting from all of this to call for invasions where ever ISIS goes like Iran. Their Raytheon and Halliburton stocks are going to improve but tons of people are going to die because of it. They don't give a crap. They are enabling the process by not following the constitution and going in on very sketchy intelligence or lies. They are just going to repeat the process regardless of the outcome.
Identifying Different Psychopaths
[YOUTUBEIF]MIHtUUieyhM[/YOUTUBEIF]
Im no astrologist ,but if the last decade of military intervention for really questionable reasons didn't work and created more enemies and power vacuums for nut cases to take over we are just going to get the same result again. When is enough, enough ?
Our vets are coming back all fucked up mentally and physically, if they survive the war some just choose suicide instead of reliving those nightmares. Some are forced to live on psychotropic drugs which is no life at all and they tend to make them more suicidal.
I don't have an answer besides to quite while we still can. Worry about our own people first.
The Spread of the Caliphate: The Islamic State (Part 1)
[YOUTUBEIF]bsCZzpmbEcs[/YOUTUBEIF]
Grooming Children for Jihad: The Islamic State (Part 2)
[YOUTUBEIF]jzCAPJDAnQA[/YOUTUBEIF]
isn't it interesting that isis isn't attacking israel?
isn't it interesting that hamas never hits anything in israel with those rockets?
isn't it interesting how isis came out of nowhere with those nice trucks, equipment and such a large trained force? and then just happened to take over the bank in mosul for all that funding and all that left behind us military equipment?
the "insurgents" in ukraine, syria and isis are cia trained. langley mercenaries. we have the us military fighting the cia trained insurgents.
nwo ppl.
isn't it interesting that hamas never hits anything in israel with those rockets?
isn't it interesting how isis came out of nowhere with those nice trucks, equipment and such a large trained force? and then just happened to take over the bank in mosul for all that funding and all that left behind us military equipment?
the "insurgents" in ukraine, syria and isis are cia trained. langley mercenaries. we have the us military fighting the cia trained insurgents.
nwo ppl.
Yup , sure is. But I would add it's probably the iron dome we gave them that prevents them from hitting anything. I forgot to add this link in my post.
Blowback! U.S. trained Islamists who joined ISIS
Secret Jordan base was site of covert aid to insurgents targeting Assad
fucking A
u hit the nail right on spot
I saw some action in 2005 and i have no life without those pills whatso ever
G`day Giaus
Saudi Arabia + CIA .
Money sent to Turkey for training and those fleets of brand new identical trucks . Syria is over seen by Shiite Iran . Iraq had a Shia gov .
Fundamentalism is a threat to the House of Saud .
The money stolen in Mosul is small change compared to the war chest in Saudi .
Iran and Qatar have huge natural gas resources about to come on line . And the whole " Levant" region is very rich in gas deposits . And promise massive profits .
Thanks for sharin
EB .
Saudi Arabia + CIA .
Money sent to Turkey for training and those fleets of brand new identical trucks . Syria is over seen by Shiite Iran . Iraq had a Shia gov .
Fundamentalism is a threat to the House of Saud .
The money stolen in Mosul is small change compared to the war chest in Saudi .
Iran and Qatar have huge natural gas resources about to come on line . And the whole " Levant" region is very rich in gas deposits . And promise massive profits .
Thanks for sharin
EB .
firing a BUK only requires 2 radar systems if you are going to identify your target. if you just want to shoot down a plane, any plane, one works fine. lock radar on, push correct combination of buttons, watch fireworks. Minuteman nuclear missiles only require 2 guys knowing the right code & turning their keys simultaneously. not as difficult as you make it out to be.
dollar having problems? not so much. but the russian currency is dropping like a bowling ball rolling off the side of a table at the moment. currency markets are very volatile, though. you just never know what is going to happen tomorrow...
even if you don't care which plane you hit, you still need to see you target if you don't have the other 2 radar vehicles. but if you read, i didnt say it wasn't possible. but we still have no satellite footage proving it. but we do have satellite images showing Kiev controlled buk systems as well as radar data proving mh17 was being trailed by at least one Ukrainian fighter jet. in fact an osce observer actually mentioned that parts of the cockpit looked like they been hit by heavy machine gun fire, the Ukranian SU fighter jets have just such a rapid firing heavy machine gun installed. apparently some of the holes were regular sized. there is a very interesting analyses out there done by a German pilot which also gives you food for thought. but it's only food for thought if you haven't already made up your mind. so won't bother linking it.
btw, we still didnt get the voice recordings or the radar data from Kievs air traffic control center. maybe the pilot screaming he's being machine gunned by fighter jets would fuck with the narrative eh? lol. we also still have no explanation why that plane was sent right over the middle of the conflict zone when regular air trafic was routed to by pass that area? nor do we have any explanation for the planes left turn, off the beaten path so to speak, just before it disappeared off the radar.
as for the dollar it's living on borrowed time, you can only force the whole world to support you by using dollars you print, to pay for stuff you can't afford, for only so long, sooner or later all ponzy schemes collapse. the only reason it hasn't happened yet is because the apatite for the dollar in the rest of the world is still there, because they need it for oil payments. but sooner or later even the whole world will not be big enough to get rid of all the new dollars being printed every day, this will speed up if they keep abusing their power to hurt trade for those not doing as they are told. the US is using the dollar system to punish anyone not doing as they are told and that will not end well for the dollar. when you start using your power to interrupt international trade with your currency, peeps will just switch currencies in the end.
btw, we still didnt get the voice recordings or the radar data from Kievs air traffic control center. maybe the pilot screaming he's being machine gunned by fighter jets would fuck with the narrative eh? lol. we also still have no explanation why that plane was sent right over the middle of the conflict zone when regular air trafic was routed to by pass that area? nor do we have any explanation for the planes left turn, off the beaten path so to speak, just before it disappeared off the radar.
as for the dollar it's living on borrowed time, you can only force the whole world to support you by using dollars you print, to pay for stuff you can't afford, for only so long, sooner or later all ponzy schemes collapse. the only reason it hasn't happened yet is because the apatite for the dollar in the rest of the world is still there, because they need it for oil payments. but sooner or later even the whole world will not be big enough to get rid of all the new dollars being printed every day, this will speed up if they keep abusing their power to hurt trade for those not doing as they are told. the US is using the dollar system to punish anyone not doing as they are told and that will not end well for the dollar. when you start using your power to interrupt international trade with your currency, peeps will just switch currencies in the end.
no changes, without showing the satellite pics the US has, there is no real case, at least not one that would stand up in international law. but if you think about it, the US got the EU to agree to sanctions against Russia, so they got what they wanted without ever proving the case, lmfao. those euro politicians are some real pussies, they have agreed to shoot them selves in the foot at the command of big bro across the pond, really pathetic. time will tell how this goes, but personally i find the situation worrying. it all depends on how far Europe is prepared to go in spoiling trade relations with Russia, but it does seem that they are slowly seeing the pain from Russia's tit for tat, agra, meat and fish ban. some Dutch bank estimates that this alone will cost the EU close to 7 billion euro per year.
as i said before, this whole situation is a total downer for the globalists, it's again showing countries that they risk co dependency at their peril, when shit should hit the fan and national interests collide with US interests in the world, they better be self sufficient or at least able to get there fast.
as i said before, this whole situation is a total downer for the globalists, it's again showing countries that they risk co dependency at their peril, when shit should hit the fan and national interests collide with US interests in the world, they better be self sufficient or at least able to get there fast.
