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marrdogg

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Appreciate that bit of info ResinRyder. I hate when someone tells me how to use a product and they've never use it themselves. I have used drip clean the way you and I state and never had an issue. PEACE!
 

marrdogg

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In theory the clearex is used to remove buildups and drip clean is used to prevent buildups.
With drip clean it is slowly releasing buildup to be available to the plants.
Ive never seen the pots turn white with salts from using drip clean, and I have flushed copious amounts of water through them with drip clean.
However, with Florakleen the pots turn completely white from all the salts that were released.
When using drip clean I think it releases whatever is on the roots to be absorbed.

How much you know, you will not see salt because drip clean is designed in a sense to hold on so away out the pot they go.
 

10ftGanja

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How much you know, you will not see salt because drip clean is designed in a sense to hold on so away out the pot they go.

its not that easy to remove everything.
Just look at coco.
poor a ton of water with drip clean through it and it will still not be 000ppm.
everything that's left is now available to the plants.
when you've released the buildup its now available to the plants(just like h&g says it is) and the cations are out of balance.
they warn it carn burn the crop because they will absorb high concentrations of salts into the roots

Pekacid Acidifying Power – Enhances Nutrient Uptake


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Keeps an optimum soil and water pH
Increases nutrients availability, especially micronutrients, phosphorus and magnesium
Increases nutrients mobility in the root system
Decreases nitrogen losses through volatilization
Increases water infiltration into the soil

Does clearex enhance nutrient uptake?
 

marrdogg

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What part are you not getting? Pretty much impossible to get to 0 ppm. You will never get everything out but you won't leave nearly enough to burn your plants. I have done it and if what your saying is correct I would have fried many a plant. Have you ever tried it the way you say doesn't work versus continuously stating what the label says? Because I have as probably countless others on this site. Since you say you have the product why don't you experiment when you get the chance instead of telling someone it doesn't work and you've never used it in that manner. Again we are all here to learn dude so if you can't give advice based on experience then keep it to yourself. PEACE!
 

10ftGanja

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lol. we are talking about the OPs plants you said had a build up and needed to be flushed...
why do you end up using it on plants with buildups that need to be flushed so often? lol
anyhow, I would not recommend using this product on plants with a buildup(just like h&g warns against)
that's all
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marrdogg

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Because over the years you will have to flush plants common sense. I have been growing a very long time doesn't mean I'm an expert just means I have experience. Try it before disputing it. As you can see I am not the only one who has used drip clean in the manner stated, fuck what the bottle says why is it so hard for you to believe it works without trying yourself. One thing I found out in my 30 years of growing this beautifulis iI never listen to anybody whon hasn't used the product the way you intend to but tell you it's wrong. If that's the case we would not stumble upon new and improved ways of doing things we would all have a one way form of thinking not open for new things which we so desperately need with this ever evolving plant.
 

10ftGanja

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Because over the years you will have to flush plants common sense. I have been growing a very long time doesn't mean I'm an expert just means I have experience. Try it before disputing it. As you can see I am not the only one who has used drip clean in the manner stated, fuck what the bottle says why is it so hard for you to believe it works without trying yourself. One thing I found out in my 30 years of growing this beautifulis iI never listen to anybody whon hasn't used the product the way you intend to but tell you it's wrong. If that's the case we would not stumble upon new and improved ways of doing things we would all have a one way form of thinking not open for new things which we so desperately need with this ever evolving plant.

Sorry... I didn't realize you had been growing 30 years.
Keep in mind that in your first post you mentioned you thought his ec was pretty high at 1.8 and said you feed at 900ppm(1.8ec)
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DJXX

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hey 10 ft...my ppm of my well water is 250 so thats as low as it'll go when i flush...not sure how low RO goes down to....just cutting the ppm in half will probably take care of it...his ec is high in my book....probably the problem...magnesium locks out at 5.8..and he said his runoff is 5.8...so maybe we nailed it...DJXX

come on fellas chilllllllllllll!!!
 

marrdogg

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Sorry... I didn't realize you had been growing 30 years.
Keep in mind that in your first post you mentioned you thought his ec was pretty high at 1.8 and said you feed at 900ppm(1.8ec)
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All dependent upon conversion you used. Bottom line dude if you don't think 1.8ec isn't high I want to know. AND ONE MORE TIME WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE PICS OF YOUR GROW WHILE YOUR RUNNING YOUR FUCKING MOUTH! I have asked numerous times and you always avoid the answer. And your from Watts dam sure not from my neck of the woods. As we would say in the 213 "WATTS UP!"
 

marrdogg

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hey 10 ft...my ppm of my well water is 250 so thats as low as it'll go when i flush...not sure how low RO goes down to....just cutting the ppm in half will probably take care of it...his ec is high in my book....probably the problem...magnesium locks out at 5.8..and he said his runoff is 5.8...so maybe we nailed it...DJXX

come on fellas chilllllllllllll!!!

You know what DJXX? I've tried with this dude he's a fucking troll that doesn't speak from experience because if he did he would know he's talking out the side of his neck. And he still hasn't showed me a fucking PIC! But you know how trolls do it. PEACE!
 

marrdogg

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I just realized something everything this dude says is right off a label. Dam I don't know if this dude grows or just reads a lot, LOL!
 

10ftGanja

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hey 10 ft...my ppm of my well water is 250 so thats as low as it'll go when i flush...not sure how low RO goes down to....just cutting the ppm in half will probably take care of it...his ec is high in my book....probably the problem...magnesium locks out at 5.8..and he said his runoff is 5.8...so maybe we nailed it...DJXX

come on fellas chilllllllllllll!!!

I agree. High EC low runoff ph...
RO will go to 0, but I wouldn't flush with 0ppm.
Then again I just taper back to around 250 with ro/tap mixed
 

10ftGanja

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All dependent upon conversion you used. Bottom line dude if you don't think 1.8ec isn't high I want to know. AND ONE MORE TIME WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE PICS OF YOUR GROW WHILE YOUR RUNNING YOUR FUCKING MOUTH! I have asked numerous times and you always avoid the answer. And your from Watts dam sure not from my neck of the woods. As we would say in the 213 "WATTS UP!"

true, but someone with 30yrs experience isn't going to say ppm. They use EC
And .7 conversion is usually across the pond. Seeing how youre in 213 youre not across the pond
I never said I was from watts...lol
Anyhow... Im pretty sure youre harassing me, or atleast trolling.
Im allowed to state the directions without being attacked.
Ive reported to the mods the numerous messages you've left on my home page and the other threads you've followed me into.
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marrdogg

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true, but someone with 30yrs experience isn't going to say ppm. They use EC
And .7 conversion is usually across the pond. Seeing how youre in 213 youre not across the pond
I never said I was from watts...lol
Anyhow... Im pretty sure youre harassing me, or atleast trolling.
Im allowed to state the directions without being attacked.
Ive reported to the mods the numerous messages you've left on my home page and the other threads you've followed me into.
:tiphat:

Also I never stated I was in the 213 also. Look dude you say I'm harassing you, go back to the very first post you put on this thread. Basically without going into your personal experiences with this product you immediately tell me I'm wrong. I have asked you numerous times to share your experience of the product used in the manner which I suggested which you haven't. Having first hand experience using it the way I stated I know you won't fry your plants. Have you tried this? If so did you fry your plants and your speaking from first hand knowledge? You kept reverting back to what the label says which I know, I want to know how it affected your plants when used in that manner. If you've never used it in that capacity how could you possibly dispute the validity of what I said? I've learned that nothing beats hands on knowledge as to whether something works the way you assume it would work. Now I can come to this thread like a full grown man and and come to some type of resolution man to man before I go tattle tale. We are adults, well I hope you are, what was so hard for you to say, look bro can we agree to disagree? That's what adults do. Don't get made at me because something you say isn't right has and will if ever need be work for me again. I learned that if I haven't tried a particular "technique" to not speak on it cause honestly I don't know. How many styles of growing people said wouldn't work and they had the scientific proof but that same style has someone else's garden thriving? Sometimes you have to actually try it before we say it can't be done. How many times have I said I'm not hear to argue and you continued on? That sounds like trolling to me. I have been on this site almost 5 years and never been accused of trolling. You have been here maybe a couple weeks and already have been called that. You must understand you come giving advice but have nothing to show for the knowledge you give. I said before I am here to learn as I hope we all are not to tell one his methods are wrong without first seeing for myself, because as stated I am here to learn. We don't know it all that's why we come here and hope as a collective we can better understand this wonderful plant we've been blessed with. You are the only person stating that that couldn't be done so maybe that means other people have done it with no I'll effects.

But next time man up and see if you can come to amicable resolutions before you start calling the cops. You would have been pleasantly surprised at the response you would have received. So whoever refutes you now your calling 911?
 

10ftGanja

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look man. im allowed to say wait up... the manufacture warns against that.
if youre flushing out locked out plants, what makes you say it didn't damage them?
if they were locked out they couldn't have been too healthy looking to begin with.
anyhow, I was just trying ta help the OP not start any argument.
again... Im allowed to post the directions to a product suggested to the OP.
like DJ said, regular water, or even a light nute solution will do the trick.
no need to get fancy with it.
peeps been growin herb without drip clean since before you started 30 years ago
 

Buck36

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Could it be a CaMg deficiency, causing it to lock out other nutrients? I've had brown spots on the leaves I have purple stems and I haven't been supplementing with CaMg in relatively soft water area
 
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