is flushing or reducing ppms an extension of curing

[bahern]

I have limited experience in growing with only a few under my belt, but I want to get something right that's been lacking. The smell and taste. The bud I have at the moment is cured for at least 2 months but smells like hay! It was never flushed but I attribute the smell to possibly too quick if a dry, roughly 5-6 days at 23c. I want to know what is best practice, these are what I'm considering: Drying at 20c, and lowering ppms last few weeks flower. Would lowering ppms start a process of very slow curing while the plant is still growing by reducing chlorophyll in the plant. Then when drying and curing, less chlorophyll needs to be broken down giving better taste smell? Will yield suffer much as a result? Please let me know what's best to do

 

[RonSmooth]

Flushing isn't the answer. I believe the answer lies in the first sentence of your post.

Everything will get better with experience.

I have tried a few different methods and have settled on hanging plant until dry, then trimming.


In my short career, I have found that problems are rarely a case of what you aren't doing.

 

[blastfrompast]

WheneverI have smelled "hay" weed it was always Chopped early....Dried hot...and improperly sweated(depending on your trying tek of course).

Chopped early and dried fast and hot seems to really do it....Just ask my buddy who grows OD, cuts early then dries in a barn that gets to 105'F bags it and then wonders why it looks OK...but smells like Hay.

 

[bahern]

Cheers for the replies, yeah that was another thing I was gonna change, I read a few threads on wet v dry trimming. I've always wet trimmed but gonna try dry this time. I agree it must have been the high temps, and I probably did harvest a.week or two early. Is 20/21c a reasonable temp for drying. It will be in a 3x8x8 closet but I've no air extractor in there? Would a 7in desk fan in the room and opening the door once or twice a day be adequate air exchange for drying?

 

[FreedomTRAIL]

Trimming wet or dry has never made a differance for me. Just takes a whole lot longer wet. What works for me is to grow stinky strains and to let it hang dry, trimmed or untrimmed, in tell the buds are crispy and easily snap off of limb. Too dry is much better than too wet. I save some fresh stem in the fridge to add to the curing jars if I do overdry. If you leave the fresh stem in there too long the herb will get too wet again so if you try this, be aware! I prefer my cureing methode to any store bought weed I get. Very smooth and flavorful! Theres a great thread on here about the Perfect Cure. It comes with practice. I don't even think about it anymore, good luck!

 

[willyweed]

what size do you cut the buds down to? also sounds like it may be going into the jars too soon.one time i experimented by leaving a plant to dry out in the pot! it took 2xweeks and was crispy dry,too dry ,the buds just snapped off without much encouragement .
so i put it in a jar with a slice of lemon into the fridge for about 20-30 hours.it came out a bit damp.so i left it to air dry for about 2 days and it was as good as anything i have ever tried !
good luck working out what works best for you.ww

 

[JointOperation]

environment.. if ur area to dry isn't controlled like your grow room.. then don't trim until its dry.. this helps slow it down.. more water = more dry time.... so more plant matter = more dry time..

the key is to not OVERDRY.. if drying to fast.. u can put into plastic bags filling only 1/5th full. and allow the moisture to leach into the buds from the stems. .SLOWLY

and if you have ever flowered a female till it actually DIED on the stalk.. then you will see what happens at the end of the natural flower period.. they stop puling up as much water.. once the swell is done.. anytime after that is fine to pull all personal pref.. but once I see water uptake SLOW.. that's when I flush out the nutes in the soil.. allow the plant to eatup stored energy.. and just as the fan leaves start to yellow out nicely.. I wait.. pull off the fan leaves that are yellowed.. and chop. after 1 to 2 days in the dark.. also . once I start flushing.. I pull my lights up as to not burn up any terpenes.. this really brings out the flavor of a lot of my strains..


the main problem with people that flush that bitch that it doesn't work or it screwed up there yields... . is . most of them don't take there bud to FULL MATURITY to begin with.. so when they flush.. they are flushing during the most crucial times of bud swell.. meaning Decreased YIELDS.. and horrible results with flushing..

this is why I don't bother giving any info on the subject.. kuz ill get 100 people saying flushing is BS.. and a lot of them.. haven't even TRIED IT.. nor have they even let there plants go to full maturity.. lol... give them a clone that finishes at day 75... they will pull at day 60.. and then wonder why my flushed bud smokes better looks better.. and gets people a lot higher? lol

I believe that's the reason a lot of people have bad results while flushing.. . if u think its a joke and u think flushing is for idiots.. then try itt.. but don't dick around an just say ya I did it .. don't like it . had bad yields.. ACTUALLY TRY IT.. I found out the hard way that 90% of growers pull early.. or have 0 patience .. this means.. when they try flushing.. they are giving no nutes.. on the most crucial days of flower.. then they bitch it don't work it fucked up my yield.. cry babies.. lol.. its like maybe if u took ur plant to maturity.. and can tell when the plant is starting to slow down on water intake.. and the swell stops.. that's flush time.. and only when that happens.. if u don't do it on TIME.. u fuck up your yield and ull cry that it didn't work.. and how flushing ruined ur plants..

this is for SOIL.. or SOILLESS MIX.. im not into hydro.

just so you know.. ive tried like every way to flush .. on all diff types of plants. at different times.. and kept a journal of it.. so I know when to flush EACH strain. to get the best yield.. smell taste.. and smoke..

nothing anyone says will change that.. I still feed during the most important stages of flowering.. and I also don't flush the way a lot of people do.. I feed just straight tap water.. for 7 days.. just enough to keep them happy for 1 light on period.. so I can water daily.. then the last 7 days I flush 3 times.. mon thurs sat.. kinda thing.. and do 2 times the amount of the pot size.. 3 times is over kill if your already been feeding plain water...

 

[stihgnobevoli]

in my own experience the hay smell seems to come from weed not being dry enough when it goes in the jar. or dried too fast. buds=dry stems=moist smell=grass.

dry it as slow as you can before chopping up and jarring.

 

[bahern]

Thanks for all the replies, much appreciated I'll try get it right this time around

 

[bahern]

Hi all, I have finished bud that smells and looks amazing. The only problem is it is so harsh to smoke. I reduced ppms for last 3 weeks, I think I may have read this technique from a dhf post, but I also flushed the final week. Bud was slow dried with sugar leaves still on and attached to the branches at about 20c for 1 week, then dry trimmed and jarred. Rh in jars was almost 62% straight off the bat, added bodeva 62 to maintain Rh, and burped once a day. It was only in the jars 5days when brought samples to a few patients, all 3 weren't impressed at all due to the harshness of the smoke, it's really stingy on the throat. My question is, will curing get rid of this harshness or was it insufficiently flushed and be like this forever or will another week or two curing smooth it out? I'm in a bit of bother with this as gotta pay bills very soon. Any help would be really appreciated.

 

[JointOperation]

curing can deff help .. for sure.. but.. it really all depends.. more then likely.. its just too wet still.. first thing first.. is.. yes curing will help. i mean shit.. its been picked off the plant.. and smoked in 2 weeks.. and u wonder why its not that great? lol

just allow it to cure longer an see what happens.. its all about learning and personal pref..

but ya harshness can be nutes.. chlorophyll.. or moisture. . also a few other things like terpene profile.. i got this 1 strain. that no matter how long u cure it. how much u flush it.. its just a lil harsh on the lungs. it expands like a motherfucker when being smoked so who knows..

i don't even smoke or sell my bud until 3-8 weeks of curing.. depending.. some shit flushed a lot and dried super slow.. 14 day slow dry.. ive had people think that it was cured for months.. wen it was cut 2 weeks before hand..

so i just haven't stopped that way.. i slow down my dry to hit atleast 10-14 days.. and haven't had a single issue.. actually more people complimenting taste and smell then before.. so looks like im doing something correctly.

 

[stihgnobevoli]

possibly still too wet, give it another week or 2 for the moisture to even out and the enzymes to break down some of the chlorophyll.

 

[bahern]

Cheers all for your replies. I have noticed it's. Smoothing out a bit already. Hopefully it was just me being a little over eager. Gonna let it cure for another few weeks and see how it goes

 

[Dr.Faustus]

Thanx